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post #151 of 620
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

There seems to be an uproar by one rookie poster on the 1070 thread because he suggested I use search to look for pics with nd2 filter on while in use and then said DON'T use search. Do you have any screen pics with and without filter? Just want to see the difference in light loss. That's all.

Yes, I was under the impression that you were asking for screen pics showing the effects of the filter, not product pics, when you got that smack down.
post #152 of 620
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Originally Posted by Sonyad View Post

Yes, I was under the impression that you were asking for screen pics showing the effects of the filter, not product pics, when you got that smack down.

I'll try to post some pics this week. I wasn't able to get my camera working this weekend (dark theater room).

I'm not sure if it's apples to apples (W1070 versus W1080ST) - - but folks with the W1070 like the ND2 filter effect as well. My solution was around thirty bucks - - and I know they can be had for cheaper - - but I went with a variable 72mm ND2 to ND400 (glass) filter and metal ring 67 to 72mm lens adapter ring.

Personally - I think the ND2 filter add on is a "no brainer" and I hope my pictures do it justice.
post #153 of 620
Excuse the janky setup (center speaker at bottom). I got the 100" screen mounted and had more time to play around with it. I didn't calibrate it, these are out of the box settings.

Middle of the day, sunny outside with blinds doing the best job they can. Some details get washed out.


Night time looks awesome. Blacks are crushed a little. I think it really depends on the content your piping to it. Less compressed file the better.. duh. 720p Game of Thrones episode from yesterday suffered from blacks being more grayish and crushed together lacking detail in some darker scenes. However Avatar bluray was a lot better with only minimal occurrences. Overall I felt this wasn't a major issue for me.


I did however begin to witness rainbows occasionally. Not very often, but every once in a while. Again this did not bother me since they were very slight and rare.

I am very happy with this projector, I just wish it was more practical for my living situation. I need more control over ambient light to put this to regular use during the day!
post #154 of 620
thanks for the pics!!!

Can you make also a photo from less of 30cm (1 feet) to show the pixeling effect? smile.gif
post #155 of 620
I've been trying out the 3D gaming with Black Ops and no matter what I try the picture seems to be squished in the middle and correct on the outskirts of the screen. Does anyone know of something that might fix this. I just ran auto-detect settings on the PS3 menu which put it at 1080p, allowing me to select Frame packing on the projector menu. The 3D portion works fine but the distortion is driving me nuts. Any help from someone else who might be doing 3D gaming would be appreciated.
post #156 of 620
I don't have Sketch's problems (yet :P) but I'm curious.
Anyone who has this projector AND has purchased some 3D glasses for it, could post your experiences / recommendations, and could you link me to what you got on Amazon? There seem to be a variety of options and price points, so ideally I'd like to get a working solution without spending a LOT of money, especially since I'm not sure I even will use it a lot / ever.
post #157 of 620
The Benq w1080ST is finally available also here in Europe and the price is aligned!
I'm still undecided if buy it now or not ..
Sorry for the stress, but anyone can make a photo from less of 30cm (1 feet) to show the pixeling effect? biggrin.gif
post #158 of 620
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Originally Posted by djufuk87 View Post

The Benq w1080ST is finally available also here in Europe and the price is aligned!

Where is it available? I still can't see it in Benq's online shops or amazon.
post #159 of 620
is available in many shops here in italy:

http://www.trovaprezzi.it/prezzo_videoproiettori_w1080st.aspx

at the moment is available in 4 online shops
post #160 of 620
Thanks, that's good news. Hopefully, it will be sold throughout Europe soon.
post #161 of 620
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Originally Posted by DivinityCycle View Post

I don't have Sketch's problems (yet :P) but I'm curious.
Anyone who has this projector AND has purchased some 3D glasses for it, could post your experiences / recommendations, and could you link me to what you got on Amazon? There seem to be a variety of options and price points, so ideally I'd like to get a working solution without spending a LOT of money, especially since I'm not sure I even will use it a lot / ever.

I bought it from a different seller but he has since upped his price to $29.99. I got the 144Hz SainSonics on ebay for $24.99 with Free Shipping. Below is the only other US seller I could find that had them for the same price. If you get them on Amazon they're another $5. I haven't had any issues with them other than occasionally if you look away from the screen for an extended period of time (30 seconds or so) the eyes can go out of sync. Pretty easy fix (just hit the button on the right side) but that's been my only problem. I like that they are rechargeable and they aren't terribly uncomfortable (although if you have a larger head, a few minutes and a hair dryer can do wonders). Worst case scenario, you don't like them and you can either return them or keep them for guests (or kids) and you're only out $25. I think later on down the line I might try a more expensive pair but I haven't had any problems with these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SainSonic-144Hz-for-Mitsubishi-3D-DLP-Link-Projector-IR-Active-Shutter-Glasses-/180897617413?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item2a1e569605
post #162 of 620
Just wondering how the picture quality will be using a 92" with the projector throwing from 7 ft away (recommended is 110-120"). Help guys! Thanks.
post #163 of 620
Many thanks for your link Sketch smile.gif
I'm assuming syncing is done by some sort of IR pulse? Is the emitter built into the projector and is it possible to hook up something external? I am presently planning my custom hushbox / equipment rack / coffee table thingy, and my projector will probably end up being full enclosed, and one of the things I have to work out is IR or HDMI CEC control for everything.
I had planned on only needing to be able to turn my projector on / off but it'd be nice to have 3D stuff working properly as well.
If the 3D sync works via IR pulses, does anyone know if that messes with Kinect (which has an IR projection & camera system)?
Seriously $25 a pair makes it very hard to say no :P
post #164 of 620
At 7 feet away, 92 may be a little on the big side.
In terms of picture quality, I can tell you that my 120" screen at like 10 to 12 feet away is freaking majestic. My gf has been joking around that we could charge admission.
I believe that given my screen and distance are both roughly 25% bigger than your proposed setup, the perceived image quality should be pretty much equal. To my eyes, this projector puts out a "fantastic" image, and I haven't even messed with tuning up the colors and / or putting in lense yet smile.gif I'd say if you can afford it, go for it!
post #165 of 620
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Originally Posted by jgvill View Post

Just wondering how the picture quality will be using a 92" with the projector throwing from 7 ft away (recommended is 110-120"). Help guys! Thanks.

If you are talking about the W1080ST - if you look at the "Distance Chart" (see attached - this one is in inches!) the recommended distance for a 90" screen is stated as "Minimum, Average and Max" - the "Max" distance is 65" with 60" being the Average and 54" being the minimum.

So - I would look at the W1070 - not the W1080ST if you're trying to get a 92" screen with an 84" throw distance. I'm not absolutely sure - - see the W1070 chart. But it doesn't appear that you need the short throw capabilities.

BenQ W1080ST Projector_Throw Distances .pdf 789k .pdf file
post #166 of 620
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Originally Posted by DivinityCycle View Post

Many thanks for your link Sketch smile.gif
I'm assuming syncing is done by some sort of IR pulse? Is the emitter built into the projector and is it possible to hook up something external? I am presently planning my custom hushbox / equipment rack / coffee table thingy, and my projector will probably end up being full enclosed, and one of the things I have to work out is IR or HDMI CEC control for everything.
I had planned on only needing to be able to turn my projector on / off but it'd be nice to have 3D stuff working properly as well.
If the 3D sync works via IR pulses, does anyone know if that messes with Kinect (which has an IR projection & camera system)?
Seriously $25 a pair makes it very hard to say no :P

There is a red tint to the picture that tells the glasses which eye is which. The glasses remove most of the tint (some better than others I've read) but I don't have any real problem with it. The sensor is on the nose bridge of the glasses and it will pick up the signal as long as it's pointed at the screen (not the projector).
post #167 of 620
Awesome, that's really helpful to know! I've got an extension cable for my Kinect coming next week and then I'll be able to see how silly / stupid / awesome playing Kinect on a giant screen is. Obviously will post up results here.
I also am working on building a complete data set for an emulator called FinalBurnAlpha, which I should be testing out this weekend if things go according to plan, so we'll see how old-school 90s arcade games play as well smile.gif
post #168 of 620
I Read in every review that the 3D performance of the w1080st are not very good and the vpr loose contrast and sense of depth.
Is this true? Any feedback from Owners about the 3D?? smile.gif
Edited by djufuk87 - 4/20/13 at 5:00am
post #169 of 620
cant wait till this is available in the EU widely. I am all over it. i have a max 6 foot throw distance that

my AVR doesnt do 3d, so i will run hdmi to the projector, and hdmi to the receiver for sound. Any one think this will cause sync issues?

Cheers,
MCST
post #170 of 620
DivintyCycle, don't forget to post videos to youtube. I would like to see how the 90s arcade games do on a giant screen.
post #171 of 620
Are you sure that you AVR doesn't Support the 3D?
I have a denon 2310 and if the source is an htpc you can change the EDID and use the 3D.. Also it the AVR has the hdmi 1.3 and is not 3D ready.. smile.gif
post #172 of 620
Pretty sure... I have the 2309,but will have to double check now that you say that.
EDIT nope, doesn't do it...and I don't have an HTPC...
But my panny bdt310 says this is possible to do in the manual. Just wondering if there will be sync issues...

Also, I am trying to convince my wife to let me have this in place of our 32" Tv in the family room smile.gif It would make it easier if I didn't have to hang a screen to watch movies with this. Is it good enough on a plain white wall?

Cheers,
Edited by McStyvie - 4/21/13 at 12:06am
post #173 of 620
Good enough is a relative term.

Generally you CAN do that you're just going to get lower image quality. From what I have read and seen the issues with bare walls are

-Less bright than an actual screen, can result in a more washed out picture overall
-Color shift, resulting in a picture where the color balance looks wrong (because the wall doesn't reflect all colors equally)
-Texture of the wall is visible in the image, which results in a much less crisp image

For a brief time I just had my screen material (which I got from Carl's Place on Amazon.com for like $37) stuck up on the wall with push pins, and even that worked fine.
However my apartment's walls are an off-white "creme" color, and I don't think I ever even tried just projecting on the bare wall. I'd say try the bare wall first to maybe get her hooked on the huge picture, and then she'll be more cool with getting a screen? :P
post #174 of 620
good advice...get her hooked on the wall, then throw in the screen for the upgrade in picture quality smile.gif
post #175 of 620
I am thinking of replacing my Optoma GT720 (zero lag) with one of this, does anyone know whether the lag in this isn't suitable for competitive gaming (genre like FPS, Fighting, Racing)?

I have seen someone done a lag test in 2D 1080p, anyone knows what the lag is for 3D 720p?
post #176 of 620
Techbargains.com has a small review of the w1080st
post #177 of 620
I have the GT720 too and the benq w1080st is suitable for the gaming, the lag is very low also in this model (Many review said that!) smile.gif
post #178 of 620
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Originally Posted by djufuk87 View Post

I have the GT720 too and the benq w1080st is suitable for the gaming, the lag is very low also in this model (Many review said that!) smile.gif

thx djufuk.

Now Amazon is showing "Usually ships within 1 to 2 months.".....
Edited by kenshin2b - 4/22/13 at 9:15pm
post #179 of 620
In Germany they can't even give us a launch date for this... Looks like they can't keep up with global demand:) they seem to have hit a home run with this one
post #180 of 620
While waiting for restock...

djufuk, how is the noise compare to the GT720? I am more interested in the comparision of both under the Eco mode.

Also, since I have been able to get GT720 ghosting free on 3DVision, any better or worst experience with this as it uses 3DTV play instead?
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