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post #301 of 620
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Originally Posted by bleins View Post

djufuk87 , glad for you smile.gif
I have GTX 560 It has MINI-Hdmi can i somehow use it? becouse dont want to buy adapter....

Nope, you'll have to get either and adpater or a cable. The only card I ever got like that actually came with a special cable which had a Mini connector on one end and a standard HDMI on the other. Maybe you have that tucked away somewhere?
post #302 of 620
You have only 3 choices...

1) buy a mini-HDMI / HDMi cable
2) buy an adapter mini-HDMI / HDMI
3) pray for a miracle biggrin.gif
post #303 of 620
No brave souls have attempted a flash to 1.03 yet?
post #304 of 620
I could try on my new vpr the next week when will arrive... But exactly what are the improvements?? Do you have a change log?
post #305 of 620
Few More Questions smile.gif
So when lamp will die, where i can buy new one (for replacement) and can i do it by myself and how much does it cost?

So i finally made measurement :
Projector will be 4.20 metres away from screen, benq calculator says that with this distance i will get 276' image, but i have only 120' inch screen? so will imagi pop out off screen? can i do 120' from 4.20? i mean are there some options to stop this madness biggrin.gif
Edited by bleins - 7/15/13 at 4:08pm
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post #307 of 620
So my w1080st arrived yesterday and I spent a few hours last night playing around with it.

Everything about it is great so far, except I am noticing an uneven brightness issue. It doesn't stick out like a sore thumb, but it's there.

Pretty much the left side of the picture is slightly darker than the right side. It is mainly noticeable on a white or light screen.

Does anyone else have this issue? I have heard this is a problem on the w1080st.
post #308 of 620
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Originally Posted by SoupyFlow View Post

So my w1080st arrived yesterday and I spent a few hours last night playing around with it.

Everything about it is great so far, except I am noticing an uneven brightness issue. It doesn't stick out like a sore thumb, but it's there.

Pretty much the left side of the picture is slightly darker than the right side. It is mainly noticeable on a white or light screen.

Does anyone else have this issue? I have heard this is a problem on the w1080st.

Well to reply to my own post, I ended up returning it and getting a full refund.

I am tempted to try to roll the dice and order another one. Is this uneven brightness issue where the left side is darker than the right normal for the w1080st?
post #309 of 620
I should receive my VPR this week.. I hope to not have the same problem!!
But what you want to do now? Do you try to buy another BENQ 1080st?
post #310 of 620
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Originally Posted by djufuk87 View Post

I should receive my VPR this week.. I hope to not have the same problem!!
But what you want to do now? Do you try to buy another BENQ 1080st?

Well I heard rumors and random reviews online talking about the uneven brightness, but didn't really pay too much attention to them. Hopefully mine was just defective.

Like I said though, it has been returned for a full refund back to Best Buy. But I really have no idea what I am going to do now. I could try to order another one and see if it has the issue as well. That's one reason I was posting here, to see if everyone else's is the same or mine was just a lemon. If I don't try to order another one, I might just hold on to my money and get a 65 inch Panasonic Plasma that I have my eye on. But going from my 140 inch picture down to 65 inches might be rough.

Compared to my GT750, the picture quality was slightly sharper (since it is 1080p and the GT750 is 720p), the black levels where about the same, maybe slightly better. Colors however did not seem as nice as the GT750 out of the box, but of course I didn't keep the w1080st long enough to adjust them. But overall I really liked the w1080st, but the uneven brightness was too noticeable for me. It is mainly noticeable when you bring up a white screen, but it was also noticeable when you are playing a game for example and the bottom left area shows your health or whatever. When you look in the corner and that side of the picture, it just looks darker. But if you bring up like a web browser or something it's really noticeable.

I really am not sure what I am going to do now tongue.gif
post #311 of 620
The black level is the same of the GT750?? Really?
I have the Gt720 (with the black level a little bit worse of the GT750) and for me this is not a good information..
However I bought it.. and I will see it in a few days...!
post #312 of 620
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Originally Posted by djufuk87 View Post

The black level is the same of the GT750?? Really?
I have the Gt720 (with the black level a little bit worse of the GT750) and for me this is not a good information..
However I bought it.. and I will see it in a few days...!

Well maybe my wording was bad. I would say that I noticed that the black levels were better on the w1080st, but not by leaps and bounds as a $2000+ projector would be. But I am usually very picky about black levels and I think they look fine on the GT750 and very good on the w1080st.
post #313 of 620
I would give the new Benq w770st a try.
Yes it is only 720p but the uneven brightness is not as noticeable as it is on the 1080st.
I've seen the 710st, 770st and 1080st.
The 770st throws a much more even and better pic than the other two.
Order from Amazon and you will have 30 days totry it out. smile.gif
post #314 of 620
I have no uneven brightness issues with mine.
post #315 of 620
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

I would give the new Benq w770st a try.
Yes it is only 720p but the uneven brightness is not as noticeable as it is on the 1080st.
I've seen the 710st, 770st and 1080st.
The 770st throws a much more even and better pic than the other two.
Order from Amazon and you will have 30 days totry it out. smile.gif

Thanks! I might check that one out.
post #316 of 620
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Originally Posted by Bacon13 View Post

I have no uneven brightness issues with mine.

So if you bring up like a web browser and you are sitting on Google or another mostly white site, you don't notice that the left side of the screen (especially the bottom left corner area) is not as bright as the right side of the screen?
post #317 of 620
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Originally Posted by SoupyFlow View Post

So if you bring up like a web browser and you are sitting on Google or another mostly white site, you don't notice that the left side of the screen (especially the bottom left corner area) is not as bright as the right side of the screen?

Nope, it's very even left to right and top to bottom. Haven't noticed it with any situation including a calibration disk that has nearly all white and all black screens. So far I love this projector and have no complaints.
post #318 of 620
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Originally Posted by Bacon13 View Post

Nope, it's very even left to right and top to bottom. Haven't noticed it with any situation including a calibration disk that has nearly all white and all black screens. So far I love this projector and have no complaints.

Cool, that's good to hear that it is not an issue on all of them. smile.gif
post #319 of 620
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Originally Posted by SoupyFlow View Post

Well to reply to my own post, I ended up returning it and getting a full refund.

I am tempted to try to roll the dice and order another one. Is this uneven brightness issue where the left side is darker than the right normal for the w1080st?

I've had mine since they first came out in the US and haven't had an brightness issues. There is some distortion when the zoom is all the way up and getting the top right corner of the screen completely focused (when ceiling mounted and 8 feet away) is a bit of a challenge but other than that it's been great. There was a slight clicking while it was cooling down (and even slightly after it was off) when I first got the projector but after 10-15 days of turning it on and off it stopped. I wouldn't give up on it just yet as you probably just got a bad unit.
post #320 of 620
I will receive my W1080st today!! This evening I will post the first impression!! smile.gif
post #321 of 620
Hi, guys, new W1080ST owner here. That short Throw distance is amazing! This would definitely need to be ceiling mounted in my case, so I have a few questions regarding what mount do I need to purchase, but first some room specs:

Room Dimensions:
Wall to be projected on - Width 3.00m (9'10") x Height 2.40m (7'10")
Distance from screen to opposite wall: 3.29m (10'9")
Ceiling Height: 2.40m (7'10")

Projector Position (According to the calculator):
- Distance From Ceiling: 0.38m (1'3")
- Distance to the Screen: 1.52m (5'0")

Observations:
I know, the bigger the better, but the biggest screen size I can get without it looking out of proportion with the wall is about 100", I'm perfectly fine with that. I will be using a screen, but will definitely set up the projector first before I buy a fixed sized one. Nothing ever comes out quite as neatly as it is on paper, right?

Mount Considerations:
1. The mount needs to be white.
2. The less obtrusive, the better (Not Bulky)
3. Will I need to buy extension rods? Or will a flush mount work? (According to the BenQ website throw distance calculator it needs to be about 1'3" from the ceiling)
4. Aesthetically pleasing (Not that important, but hey, the less holes and pins it has, the better)

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide, and if any of you have additional tips or suggestions, they are welcome.
Edited by PabloGST - 7/21/13 at 2:12pm
post #322 of 620
Hey guys, I got the BenQ W1080ST and love it! I don't have the uneven brightness issue that a couple people have mentioned.
post #323 of 620
I received the W1080st and I tested it... is a good VPR!! At the moment i'm happy with it. My vote is 7,5 / 10.
I replaced the Optoma GT720.. these are my considerations:

- Black level and dark shadows are very good. Not excellent like an High Contrast VPR of +3000$ but very good. The optoma GT720 have an orrible black level, now I'm finally happy with the benq.
- PIxeling / screen door effect is still present (140" of screen from 2-3 m) but very less noticeable! As expected.... it's not a miracle (like could be a 4K VPR) but overall i'm satisfacted.
- The lens is very good and is "inside the box line" of the VPR. I could mount a ND2 filter without problem... fantastic!
- The zoom is very useful.. I use it just a little bit to compensate the distance from the screen.
- I don't have brightness problems
- Actually I have just to solve a little focus problem at the center of the screen. But I'm sure at 75% that the problem is just the position... with the short throw VPR is very diffucoult (sometime almost impossible) find the perfect position!! just 1° change everything!! However also with the actual focus for me could be ok!
- the VPR is more silent of the optoma
- the "out of the box" settings are really good
- the remote control has no backlight or led... and is very cheap. however for my use is perfect (the important thing for me is the 3D Invert button!!)
- I'm using it with the PC without any problem with HDMI connection (ATI 6850)
- The 3D is great.. but work in a different way respect the Optoma. With the desktop mode I can't use the 120hz refresh rate. just 60hz. But with the Tridef 3D player is all fine. So if the VPR don't recognize a 3D signal reject the 120hz. I will make more tests and I will try to modify the EDID.
- I confirm that this VPR require 144hz glasses for the 3D. The 120hz glasses doesn't work also with the PC input
- Finally I can work with the FULL hd resolution!! Another planet for the PC use.

At the moment i'm happy... The first impression was not so amazing, but after the initial setup I can say that is much more better than the Optoma! My next VPR will be 4K... biggrin.gif
post #324 of 620
djufuk, welcome to the club biggrin.gif

For those that are still on the fence, Amazon has just dropped it to $999 this morning (second lowest since the $985 Newegg promo few weeks back).
post #325 of 620
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Originally Posted by djufuk87 View Post

I received the W1080st and I tested it... is a good VPR!! At the moment i'm happy with it. My vote is 7,5 / 10.
I replaced the Optoma GT720.. these are my considerations:

- Black level and dark shadows are very good. Not excellent like an High Contrast VPR of +3000$ but very good. The optoma GT720 have an orrible black level, now I'm finally happy with the benq.
- PIxeling / screen door effect is still present (140" of screen from 2-3 m) but very less noticeable! As expected.... it's not a miracle (like could be a 4K VPR) but overall i'm satisfacted.
- The lens is very good and is "inside the box line" of the VPR. I could mount a ND2 filter without problem... fantastic!
- The zoom is very useful.. I use it just a little bit to compensate the distance from the screen.
- I don't have brightness problems
- Actually I have just to solve a little focus problem at the center of the screen. But I'm sure at 75% that the problem is just the position... with the short throw VPR is very diffucoult (sometime almost impossible) find the perfect position!! just 1° change everything!! However also with the actual focus for me could be ok!
- the VPR is more silent of the optoma
- the "out of the box" settings are really good
- the remote control has no backlight or led... and is very cheap. however for my use is perfect (the important thing for me is the 3D Invert button!!)
- I'm using it with the PC without any problem with HDMI connection (ATI 6850)
- The 3D is great.. but work in a different way respect the Optoma. With the desktop mode I can't use the 120hz refresh rate. just 60hz. But with the Tridef 3D player is all fine. So if the VPR don't recognize a 3D signal reject the 120hz. I will make more tests and I will try to modify the EDID.
- I confirm that this VPR require 144hz glasses for the 3D. The 120hz glasses doesn't work also with the PC input
- Finally I can work with the FULL hd resolution!! Another planet for the PC use.

At the moment i'm happy... The first impression was not so amazing, but after the initial setup I can say that is much more better than the Optoma! My next VPR will be 4K... biggrin.gif

Great write-up!

Quick question - - I initially bought the W1080ST as a complement to my LCD/LED 65" setup - - the projector screen (100" 16 X 9 Diagonal) goes over the LCD/LED TV when it's movie time.

My only option was a short throw projector based on space limitations. I also purchased an inexpensive FAVI 100" 16 X 9 motorized screen - $149.00.

After adding an ND2 filter and a Darbee Darblet to the setup, I've been amazed at the picture quality. My only complaint is my projection screen. Heck, if I would have known that the picture was going to be this good, I would have sprung for a better screen initially!

The FAVI screen is o.k. - it works and it's bright enough, but you get the "silk screen" effect. Again, my fault since my expectations were a little lower going into this project.

So - - I am looking at an EluneVision Reference Studio 4K, Tab-Tensioned, Motorized screen for around $1,200.00 to my door here in Colorado.

I've tried to read as much as I can on projector screen products but would appreciate anyone's feedback on their screen, if they've upgraded and seen a difference and any alternatives to the EluneVision offering in the same price range.

Best,
Rico
post #326 of 620
In my opinion the screen must be:

- perfectly planar
- uniform
- white

The Gain depends on the VPR lumens, screen size ans use (3D or 2D), but usually 1-1.2 of gain is the "default".
If you have spcific problems (es: poor black level) you can try to use a Gray screen or a special screen, like the black diamond.

However I have 3 VPR now.. With the BENQ W1080 I'm using a 140" screen (3,15m of width) with 1.2 of Gain, with the Optoma HD600x i'm usign a self made screen of 95" with gain 1,1 and the Optoma GT720 on the white wall....
The result is almost the same, don't expect picture improvement with two different white screens.
The only thing to pay attention is the "Tab-Tensioned" if the screen is larger (>2,5m of width) because if is big can not be very planar.

In summary you can spend some money for a special screen IF YOU REALLY NEED IT (example: balck diamond or Tab-Tensioned screen if is big), but with two similar and planar white screen the differences are small.
if I had the space I would use the special paint directly on the wall... without any screen
post #327 of 620
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Originally Posted by djufuk87 View Post

In my opinion the screen must be:

- perfectly planar
- uniform
- white

The Gain depends on the VPR lumens, screen size ans use (3D or 2D), but usually 1-1.2 of gain is the "default".
If you have spcific problems (es: poor black level) you can try to use a Gray screen or a special screen, like the black diamond.

However I have 3 VPR now.. With the BENQ W1080 I'm using a 140" screen (3,15m of width) with 1.2 of Gain, with the Optoma HD600x i'm usign a self made screen of 95" with gain 1,1 and the Optoma GT720 on the white wall....
The result is almost the same, don't expect picture improvement with two different white screens.
The only thing to pay attention is the "Tab-Tensioned" if the screen is larger (>2,5m of width) because if is big can not be very planar.

In summary you can spend some money for a special screen IF YOU REALLY NEED IT (example: balck diamond or Tab-Tensioned screen if is big), but with two similar and planar white screen the differences are small.
if I had the space I would use the special paint directly on the wall... without any screen

Thanks very much for the post.

Before I make any big buying decision like this - - I try to get all the facts. So I sent away for some sample material and right away, it's a much finer grade - - like grades of sandpaper where the grit is different.

The EluneVision material is very, very fine and smooth. The FAVI material is much coarser - and bumpier. It's like the difference between thread counts on sheets - - a 400 or 500 Egyptian cotton versus a 100 threads per inch.

Now - - does that translate into a better picture? I'm believe so, but I'll I'll test some of the material out tonight - as best I can.

It's also a "tab-tensioned" screen and that should help - - lots of curling with the FAVI screen.

Thx - Rico
post #328 of 620
Question about the 1080ST

I read a review that said if you place this projector on a coffee table, the bottom end of the picture will be approximately the same level as the center of the lens.
This poses a problem because I want to place this on the bottom level of a coffee table, so it's under the table. But this may be too low because I also want to place a center speaker about 2-3 feet above the ground right in front. If the projector is sitting just a few inches from the floor, how can I do this? If I tilt the projector upwards (but putting spacers under the front) will that work? I've never used a projector before so I'm really not sure.
post #329 of 620
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Originally Posted by unr1 View Post

Question about the 1080ST

I read a review that said if you place this projector on a coffee table, the bottom end of the picture will be approximately the same level as the center of the lens.
This poses a problem because I want to place this on the bottom level of a coffee table, so it's under the table. But this may be too low because I also want to place a center speaker about 2-3 feet above the ground right in front. If the projector is sitting just a few inches from the floor, how can I do this? If I tilt the projector upwards (but putting spacers under the front) will that work? I've never used a projector before so I'm really not sure.

I had the exact same scenario. You have no choice other than to place it on top of the table and remove it when done. Otherwise you must use keystone adjustment which will impact the quality of the image.
post #330 of 620
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

I had the exact same scenario. You have no choice other than to place it on top of the table and remove it when done. Otherwise you must use keystone adjustment which will impact the quality of the image.
alright, thank you.
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