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post #481 of 620
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

LJ,
The Peerless mount that you are using and recommend unfortunately makes it difficult to do a flush ceiling installation unless I am missing something. I would like to keep the pj as close to the ceiling as possible for aesthetic purposes so I don't want any type of pole protruding from the ceiling. Having said that maybe to get even a little vertical adjustment is going to be difficult. What do you think?

 

Yes, if you don't want to see the mount especially the long slide channel, that is an issue.  You can do two things.  

 

1.  Do what I did, I actually cut a square hole in the drywall in my ceiling so I could mount the projector on the floor boards inside the ceiling.  The projector hangs just below the hole covering most of it, so it looks like it's flush with the ceiling.  I have some nice black rubber molding for the edges of the of the cut drywall which match my recessed lighting.   I have to say it wasn't easy doing it this way, there's little room to work when you actually get the projector where you want it....sliding, adjusting, tightening pitch and roll, you have to take the projector off, adjust, put it back on, rinse and repeat until you have it perfect.  

 

Now my setup is in a finished basement and like I said my ceilings are drywall with recessed lighting with a good 9 inches between the floor joists and the drywall, so I knew this would work for me. 

 

If you look at my pic above you can see my projector at the top of the pic, it looks like it's flush mounted, but it's not....there's actually a square hole there, but you can't really see it because it covers most of the whole.  You can also see one of my recessed lights to left and down a little bit.

 

That might not be an option for you, so if it isn't...

 

2.  Just mount it using a low profile mount like ack_bk recommended (although not that one, no offense ack_bk), you'll just have to put the screen where the image projects a perfect rectangle.  Wherever you mount it, it will project the perfect rectangle when the lens is plumb with the screen, you just won't have much control over where that is.  So, you need to trust the throw calculator and if you can, with whatever mount you get, try and get the measurements of the mount and how much it adds to the equation.  So if the mount adds 6 inches from ceiling to projector, take that into account.  

 

I would look at something like this or similar:  https://www.peerless-av.com/en-us/professional/products/PRGS-UNV

 

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LordJoseph,

Thanks for all your help! I think my plan is going to be to buy it from Amazon and then play around with positioning before I mount anything permanently. I will assemble a panel of "experts" to decide what image size they like the best and then go from there. The room hasn't been drywalled yet so I can put the mount and ceiling outlet anywhere I want. I think a ladder, an extension cord and a bedsheet should get me where I need to be.

 

That's the way to do it, and with a new room you can really nail it.

post #482 of 620
I am still debating the screen size, I guess as I get older it becomes more difficult to make a decision. My choices are 100,106,120 diagonal, seating is 12'. The charts seem to favor 100" and the 106" is actually 16:10 and I have no clue if that makes a difference. Doesn't seem like much of difference. I want to order everything in the next couple of days, which includes a mount (looking at the RSAUW Mini by Chief) and a new AVR, probably a Denon or a Yamaha. I will put a splitter on the HDMI out so I can go to either my TV or the PJ. Comments are welcome.
post #483 of 620
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I am still debating the screen size, I guess as I get older it becomes more difficult to make a decision. My choices are 100,106,120 diagonal, seating is 12'. The charts seem to favor 100" and the 106" is actually 16:10 and I have no clue if that makes a difference. Doesn't seem like much of difference. I want to order everything in the next couple of days, which includes a mount (looking at the RSAUW Mini by Chief) and a new AVR, probably a Denon or a Yamaha. I will put a splitter on the HDMI out so I can go to either my TV or the PJ. Comments are welcome.

 

The difference between 100" and 106" is negligible, so go with the best recommendation.  With 16:10 you'll just have small black bars at the top and bottom of the screen when viewing 16:9 content just like you have when you view a movie shot in 2:35:1 (traditional wide screen film aspect ratio).  Just about everything is displayed in 16:9 BTW

 

Just get an AV receiver with 2 or more outs.

post #484 of 620
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Originally Posted by LordJoseph View Post

The difference between 100" and 106" is negligible, so go with the best recommendation.  With 16:10 you'll just have small black bars at the top and bottom of the screen when viewing 16:9 content just like you have when you view a movie shot in 2:35:1 (traditional wide screen film aspect ratio).  Just about everything is displayed in 16:9 BTW

Just get an AV receiver with 2 or more outs.

The screen difference is pretty small. I was really leaning toward the 120" until I looked at the recommended distance figuring it was one of those "go big or go home" things. What size screen do you have?

Finding an AVR that has dual outputs without going higher end is next to impossible. I figured an HDMI splitter will be a lot cheaper. I also don't need a bunch of streaming capabilities since I have a WD TV unit, also as things change it is cheaper and easier to replace the media streamer.
post #485 of 620
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The screen difference is pretty small. I was really leaning toward the 120" until I looked at the recommended distance figuring it was one of those "go big or go home" things. What size screen do you have?

Finding an AVR that has dual outputs without going higher end is next to impossible. I figured an HDMI splitter will be a lot cheaper. I also don't need a bunch of streaming capabilities since I have a WD TV unit, also as things change it is cheaper and easier to replace the media streamer.

 

I have a 110" diagonal (8 foot width) screen at 16:9

 

Yeah I noticed most of the 2 output receivers were pretty expensive.  As long as the splitter doesn't degrade the signal.

post #486 of 620
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I have a 110" diagonal (8 foot width) screen at 16:9

Yeah I noticed most of the 2 output receivers were pretty expensive.  As long as the splitter doesn't degrade the signal.

I need a powered retractable screen and they are not easy to find in 110 or at least not the ones sold and shipped by AMZ which is my preferred seller. AMZ does have a partner seller that has one for a $100 more that I may go with. If I don't like it the return shipping is on me.
post #487 of 620
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I have a 110" diagonal (8 foot width) screen at 16:9

Yeah I noticed most of the 2 output receivers were pretty expensive.  As long as the splitter doesn't degrade the signal.

How far away from the screen are you sitting?
post #488 of 620
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How far away from the screen are you sitting?

 

The BenQ W1080st, seating is about 14 feet.

post #489 of 620
LJ, have you or anyone else with a 1080st found that the pj is in your peripheral vision and is a bit of an annoyance? This came up as a criticism on another thread and I really never thought about that. They also said the light bleed from the pj was distracting as well since it was between you and the screen. Do people purchase this pj because they are limited in there mounting options or are there other reasons to chose it over the 1070 or even the HD 131xe?
post #490 of 620
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

LJ, have you or anyone else with a 1080st found that the pj is in your peripheral vision and is a bit of an annoyance? This came up as a criticism on another thread and I really never thought about that. They also said the light bleed from the pj was distracting as well since it was between you and the screen. Do people purchase this pj because they are limited in there mounting options or are there other reasons to chose it over the 1070 or even the HD 131xe?

 

No not at all, but it's a very subjective issue.  It all depends on what your goal is.  BTW all my posts in this thread are about setting up the BENQ W1080ST, much of it is irrelevant if you're going with a different projector.

 

I mean some people want their setup to be exactly like going to the theater, so they go through the extra effort of setting up a REAL theater in their space.  All their equipment is hidden, theater like seats, back rows higher than than the front, nothing around the screen except speakers, etc.  Shadowing isn't an issue because the space is designed for a very specific purpose....watching movies sitting in the seats.  They are picky about every little aspect, perfectionists and that's great if that's what you're goal is - their projectors are mounted behind the seating or way in the back of the room.

 

My setup is in a functional space, my components are below the screen, my girlfriend does her workouts every morning in front of the screen which would be impossible without the short throw because she would be shadowing the image.  There's is some light bleed on the w1080st but it's all in front of the projector (a little light on the ceiling) so for me it's not really noticeable or an issue.  The projector itself is no more of a distraction than any other device whether it be the Xbox One, AV receiver or DTV receiver....it's just another device but on the ceiling.  Doesn't bother me at all, but my goal wasn't to set up a perfect theater.  My goal was to get a huge image with the same or better quality of an HDTV...so for me, mission accomplished, I love it.

 

There's two reasons why you would want a short throw projector:

 

Your space is limited and your ceilings are too low.  If you're ceilings are low like 9 feet or less it can be an issue with a normal throw proj. in the back of the seating area....the throw of the image will negate much of your space because if you get within 7-9 feet of the screen or even more you'll be shadowing.  So if the projector is on that space is useless, let's say you have kids who wanna play while watching some cartoon movie, going to be tough in a pure Theater setup with a normal throw.  If you're ceilings are super high it's less of an issue because the normal throws usually have a broad range of vertical lens shifting, but there will still be less room to use in front of the screen.  

 

With my short throw, you have to get within 3 feet of the screen to shadow it.  Also my ceilings only 8 feet high, so when I looked at setting this up there was no way I could do it without a short throw and keeping a functional space.

 

If you CAN do it without a short throw then do it, because they much easier to mount with the lens shift that you don't get on short throws and you just have a better selection of projectors that aren't short throws.  

 

Here's some pics, one is a diagram I found illustrating the difference between short throw/normal throw - it's for presentations, but shows the difference.

 

The other is my COD: Ghosts pic where you can see my projector at the top of the pic -  you can see some light bleed in front of the projector.  This doesn't bother me at all, but it may for you or other people.

 

Third is a pic without the projector in the shot, as you can see no light bleed anywhere, this is with the lights off, taking into account that my iphone photos amplify lights spots, this looks much better in real life, I just take crappy pictures. 

 

 

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The screen looks so small in these pics, but that is 110: diagonal

post #491 of 620
Wow, thanks for all of the information. It really was informative. I am setting up a HT in my living room so it will not be a perfect setting. I am also leaving my 55" plasma for every day use. I will be ordering an Elite Spectrum2 110" retractable screen. It has a fiberglass back to minimize curls and wrinkles (supposedly) which is a $100 option. The screen will drop down in front of my existing tv. Next year Vizio is introducing a new lcd tv that is has back lighting instead of edge lighting. I returned 3 70" Vizio's due to light bleed from the sides so that will be a welcome change and I will likely pick one up. I like the idea of having some flexibility via lens shifting on the 1070 put hopefully I can zero it in. I cannot imagine not using the 110" screen so I may just order it even though some people say to get the pj first. I don't have a nice flat wall to project on so either need the screen or use a sheet. Getting the pj from AMZ is an easy return the screen not so and I would need to pay return shipping. I need to find a mount that gives me max flexibility, especially a little side to side correction in case things are not dead center but allows me to also keep the projector close to the ceiling. I think you once recommended the Peerless PRGS-UNV . I only have 8' ceilings but I have plenty of room to increase the distance from the screen.

When you set up your pj where did you set the zoom, 1.0 or something else?
post #492 of 620
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Wow, thanks for all of the information. It really was informative. I am setting up a HT in my living room so it will not be a perfect setting. I am also leaving my 55" plasma for every day use. I will be ordering an Elite Spectrum2 110" retractable screen. It has a fiberglass back to minimize curls and wrinkles (supposedly) which is a $100 option. The screen will drop down in front of my existing tv. Next year Vizio is introducing a new lcd tv that is has back lighting instead of edge lighting. I returned 3 70" Vizio's due to light bleed from the sides so that will be a welcome change and I will likely pick one up. I like the idea of having some flexibility via lens shifting on the 1070 put hopefully I can zero it in. I cannot imagine not using the 110" screen so I may just order it even though some people say to get the pj first. I don't have a nice flat wall to project on so either need the screen or use a sheet. Getting the pj from AMZ is an easy return the screen not so and I would need to pay return shipping. I need to find a mount that gives me max flexibility, especially a little side to side correction in case things are not dead center but allows me to also keep the projector close to the ceiling. I think you once recommended the Peerless PRGS-UNV . I only have 8' ceilings but I have plenty of room to increase the distance from the screen.

When you set up your pj where did you set the zoom, 1.0 or something else?

 

You can order the screen, as long as you know where the projector is going and the screen is, plus since you're mounting the screen from the ceiling you have some leeway as opposed to mounting it on the wall.

 

Since you're not going short throw, check out the Epson 2030 projector, my buddy has one and loves it.  It's LCD as opposed to DLP.  

 

On the W1080st the zoom (or image size) control is manual along with focus, it's two dials right under the lens, so once you mount the projector and the screen you just zoom in and out to fit it perfectly in the screen size, then adjust the focus.  If the image rectangle is perfect the zoom maintains that no matter where you set it.  

 

There is digital zoom in the projector menu but I honestly don't know what anyone would use that for outside a presentation, it zooms in on the actual picture, as opposed to adjust the size of the image.  You won't use the digital zoom.

post #493 of 620
LJ,
I did not mean to imply I am not going ST I am just trying to figure out which is better since I can accommodate either one. They both get very good reviews and I think the only difference is the lens shift on the 1070, something that is probably never used once it is set up. Zoom....I read somewhere that people adjust the manual zoom to either 1.0 or 1.20 before the mount the pj, I don't remember which one or why.
post #494 of 620
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

LJ,
I did not mean to imply I am not going ST I am just trying to figure out which is better since I can accommodate either one. They both get very good reviews and I think the only difference is the lens shift on the 1070, something that is probably never used once it is set up. Zoom....I read somewhere that people adjust the manual zoom to either 1.0 or 1.20 before the mount the pj, I don't remember which one or why.

 

No the manual zoom doesn't even have marks on it, I don't even know what it's set at.  You might very well end using the lens shift on the w1070 if you get it.  Just to be clear, using the zoom and lens shift does not degrade the image.  It's keystoning that you want to avoid using.  You will definitely need to adjust the zoom and focus once it's setup on any projector.  

 

If I were you I would be concerned about the low ceilings and shadowing.  Even if you mount the w1070 in the back of the room (a) that will project a huge and (b) it's going to cause shadowing.  If you're seating is at 12' from the screen, and you mount the projector behind at say 14', you're going to easily shadow the image at 8-9' feet away from the projector.  That's 8 feet of unusable space when the projector is on.  

 

If it's not an issue because you're using a retractable screen and still have a TV in the room then go normal throw.

post #495 of 620
LJ,
You make good points. I am still leaning toward the ST because other than the light bleed which the 1070 also has I can see no reason not to get it. The light bleed is sort of a bummer but not everyone complains about it so who knows. The issue of where to set the zoom is still unclear to me. I know there was a comment that addressed it but I don't recall who or when. If I understood it correctly the zoom should be set to max distance which I believe is max zoom when you mount the pj. Again i thought this provides the highest contrast and uses the center of the lens aka the sweet spot. I hope some who knows more than me chimes in on this subject. Attached is a pic of my space, the fan is approximate where would need to mount a 1080st a 1070 would be 6" further back


post #496 of 620
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

LJ,
You make good points. I am still leaning toward the ST because other than the light bleed which the 1070 also has I can see no reason not to get it. The light bleed is sort of a bummer but not everyone complains about it so who knows. The issue of where to set the zoom is still unclear to me. I know there was a comment that addressed it but I don't recall who or when. If I understood it correctly the zoom should be set to max distance which I believe is max zoom when you mount the pj. Again i thought this provides the highest contrast and uses the center of the lens aka the sweet spot. I hope some who knows more than me chimes in on this subject. Attached is a pic of my space, the fan is approximate where would need to mount a 1080st a 1070 would be 6" further back


 

I don't think that is correct about the zoom at all.  Once the projector and screen are mounted the lens position is fixed, all the manual zoom does is allow you to perfectly align the image in the borders of your screen.  Then there's another dial to focus.  I think you're putting too much emphasis on the manual zoom, the sweet spot is where it fits in your screen and the focus, contrast and brightness are not going to be affected if you have it properly focused.  When you actually get it and set it up you'll see what I mean.

 

Check out the user manual from BenQ (this is for both the w1070 and w1080st) ftp://downloads.benq.net/user_manuals/projectors/english/projector_um_user_manual_20130529_114725w1070_w1080st_en.pdf

 

Looking at your room, that fan concerns and based on the seating arrangement, I think I would consider the w1070 as long as the fan doesn't get in the way.  I don't see where you can put the w1080st there

post #497 of 620
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Originally Posted by LordJoseph View Post

I don't think that is correct about the zoom at all.  Once the projector and screen are mounted the lens position is fixed, all the manual zoom does is allow you to perfectly align the image in the borders of your screen.  Then there's another dial to focus.  I think you're putting too much emphasis on the manual zoom, the sweet spot is where it fits in your screen and the focus, contrast and brightness are not going to be affected if you have it properly focused.  When you actually get it and set it up you'll see what I mean.

Check out the user manual from BenQ (this is for both the w1070 and w1080st) ftp://downloads.benq.net/user_manuals/projectors/english/projector_um_user_manual_20130529_114725w1070_w1080st_en.pdf

Looking at your room, that fan concerns and based on the seating arrangement, I think I would consider the w1070 as long as the fan doesn't get in the way.  I don't see where you can put the w1080st there

The pj replaces the fan so no issue with that, it has to come down regardless of what pj I purchase. Check out this link, go to the part about projector location.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/how-to-install-a-video-projector/
post #498 of 620
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The pj replaces the fan so no issue with that, it has to come down regardless of what pj I purchase. Check out this link, go to the part about projector location.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/how-to-install-a-video-projector/

yeah I think you'd be fine with the w1070

 

And I agree about placement of the projector over your seating area.  Thats why I had to go with a short throw, because my seating is about 12-14' feet from the screen and with a normal throw the projector would need to go above my sectional and that was 

not appealing.  Although I don't think having the projector ceiling mounted in front of the seating, between the screen and sectional is bad at all, at least I don't mind it.  It's about halfway between my seating and the sceen (6 feet)

 

but looking at your pic I would go normal throw, mount it behind, doesn't look like shadowing will be an issue

post #499 of 620
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Originally Posted by LordJoseph View Post

yeah I think you'd be fine with the w1070

And I agree about placement of the projector over your seating area.  Thats why I had to go with a short throw, because my seating is about 12-14' feet from the screen and with a normal throw the projector would need to go above my sectional and that was 
not appealing.  Although I don't think having the projector ceiling mounted in front of the seating, between the screen and sectional is bad at all, at least I don't mind it.  It's about halfway between my seating and the sceen (6 feet)

but looking at your pic I would go normal throw, mount it behind, doesn't look like shadowing will be an issue

I really think the only issues I need to resolve is do I want the st in my peripheral vision or do I want the 1070 directly over my head. There something to say about the flexability of the st in that it could be used on a table top (thinking resale here). I believe there have also been some complaint with the 1070 having light bleed showing on the screen and also some focus issues where they had to send the unit in for servicing. Is your screen a 110" fixed or retractable and how high is it off the floor?
post #500 of 620
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I really think the only issues I need to resolve is do I want the st in my peripheral vision or do I want the 1070 directly over my head. There something to say about the flexability of the st in that it could be used on a table top (thinking resale here). I believe there have also been some complaint with the 1070 having light bleed showing on the screen and also some focus issues where they had to send the unit in for servicing. Is your screen a 110" fixed or retractable and how high is it off the floor?

 

See I wouldn't want the projector over my head.  

 

I have fixed frame screen, it's a little less than 2 feet from the floor and about 3.5" from the ceiling.  

post #501 of 620
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Originally Posted by LordJoseph View Post

I don't think that is correct about the zoom at all.  Once the projector and screen are mounted the lens position is fixed, all the manual zoom does is allow you to perfectly align the image in the borders of your screen.  Then there's another dial to focus.  I think you're putting too much emphasis on the manual zoom, the sweet spot is where it fits in your screen and the focus, contrast and brightness are not going to be affected if you have it properly focused.  When you actually get it and set it up you'll see what I mean.

Check out the user manual from BenQ (this is for both the w1070 and w1080st) ftp://downloads.benq.net/user_manuals/projectors/english/projector_um_user_manual_20130529_114725w1070_w1080st_en.pdf

Here is some more info on the zoom question. Go to post #21

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1504067/short-throw-or-no#post_24080044
post #502 of 620
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Originally Posted by AV_Integrated View Post

Ideally, if light allows it, zoom should be about 3/4 of the way back in a zoom range. So, if you have a range of 10' to 20' for a screen size, then I would recommend 17.5' back. The article, while brief, does seem to be pretty accurate. I avoid the extents (all zoomed in/all zoomed out) and super-zoom projectors have significant light change from close to far away which can significantly impact your experience, but if possible, I recommend, and try for, between mid-way and as far back as possible. Right between the two if I can.
 
 
I don't think what he's referring too has anything to do with the manual zoom on the w1080st, because it frankly doesn't make any sense.  17.5' feet back on a w1080st would be a massive image size, zoom or no zoom and isn't even in the throw distance range - I think he's referring to normal throw projectors and he mentions super-zoom projectors where I can see this coming into play, where there's a massive zoom capability.  You don't setup a w1080st based on the zoom factor, which is only 20% (1.00-1.20), if you do you're probably going to screw it up.  I disagree with the assertion that the picture degrades closer to the screen on the 1080st.  As long as you're in the manufacturer's recommended throw distance and it's setup correctly, centered and perfectly parallel, the pic will be great - screen flatness, material and calibration are much more important.  With the 1080st the recommended throw range is anywhere from 4-12'
 
Look at the BenQ manual, it gives you screen sizes, then the max, average and min zoom distance.  You want to shoot for the average distance in this chart.  So for a 120' screen the MIN distance is: 5.99 feet with MAX ZOOM, the average is 6.59" and the MAX distance to fit on a 120' screen is: 7.19' with MIN ZOOM.  There's a only a little over a foot in throw distance difference here.  You want to shoot for the AVERAGE distance in this chart.  If you're going to try and figure out what 1.15 zoom is on that you're going drive yourself crazy only to find it doesn't matter.  There's no markings on the zoom dial anyways. 
 
You're overthinking this.  You should make your decision based on your setup, seating....distance from seating, etc.  Shoot for the average distance in the chart or follow the calculator measurements, and don't worry about the manual zoom.  It's an insignificant factor, all it's used for is fitting the image perfectly into your screen size and then focusing.
 
Just get the projector and set it up with a sheet or use another way at the same distance.  Everything will become much clearer when you have it hand. 
post #503 of 620
He is saying exactly what the article stated and what I have read somewhere previously, that being that you should mount the pj further rather than closer to the screen. My take away is mount the pj at whatever distance gives you a full image based on approximately 75% of the max zoom or even a little farther if you want to max out the zoom. In my case with a 110" screen it would be 6'4" at 1.15 zoom using a 1080st. He was using 17.5 only as an example. It is pretty easy to get close to the 3/4 point between no zoom and max zoom it does not need to be exact. I am not over thinking anything, if this is what a professional installer considers important than it is good enough for me. There is no doubt other factors that may be more important and I have considered those as well but why not get the most that you can from what you have is my motto. You may not think it makes any difference but it may and why not take advantage of the characteristics of the lens if it improves contrast and image sharpness. Not that I would ever be able to tell if it made a difference:rolleyes:
post #504 of 620
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

He is saying exactly what the article stated and what I have read somewhere previously, that being that you should mount the pj further rather than closer to the screen. My take away is mount the pj at whatever distance gives you a full image based on approximately 75% of the max zoom or even a little farther if you want to max out the zoom. In my case with a 110" screen it would be 6'4" at 1.15 zoom using a 1080st. He was using 17.5 only as an example. It is pretty easy to get close to the 3/4 point between no zoom and max zoom it does not need to be exact. I am not over thinking anything, if this is what a professional installer considers important than it is good enough for me. There is no doubt other factors that may be more important and I have considered those as well but why not get the most that you can from what you have is my motto. You may not think it makes any difference but it may and why not take advantage of the characteristics of the lens if it improves contrast and image sharpness. Not that I would ever be able to tell if it made a difference:rolleyes:

 

Heh ok....when you actually get the projector set it up and start playing around with it, assuming you get the 1080st, I think you'll realize what a futile effort it is calculating where the manual zoom should be in relation to the throw distance.  Either way you're in the recommended range, although you're limiting your ability to adjust, it should work fine.  I'm not going to keep arguing about something that is largely irrelevant.

post #505 of 620
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Originally Posted by LordJoseph View Post

Heh ok....when you actually get the projector set it up and start playing around with it, assuming you get the 1080st, I think you'll realize what a futile effort it is calculating where the manual zoom should be in relation to the throw distance.  Either way you're in the recommended range, although you're limiting your ability to adjust, it should work fine.  I'm not going to keep arguing about something that is largely irrelevant.

I agree.
post #506 of 620
Hi to all experts of Benq W1080ST.

Recently i got my first projector i.e. W1080ST. Quite satisfied with 2D but facing major problem with 3D movie playback.

I am not able to play 3D movies using my 3D bluray player and this projector. tried lot of options but nothing worked out.

I have been looking all over internet and found that refresh rate of projector needs to be set to 120 Hz (currently it is 60Hz). But not very sure how to change the refresh rate.
Also read somewhere in bluray forum, that some sync is required to be done between bluray & 3d display device. It was actually mentioned for 3d TV but do i need to do same for 3d projector ?? if yes, how?

will briefy explain the list of devices i m using.

Devices:
3D bluray player - Sony BDP S470 (upgrade to latest firmware)
3D projector - Benq W1080ST
AV receiver - Sony DDW 5000

When i connect all these device, i m still NOT able to watch 3D movies. The display is still either side by side or top/down. The 3D menu in projector is greyed out which means 3D signals are not being received.
Output of bluray is connected to AV receiver and AV output is connected to projector.

One thing which i m not sure is about the HDMI cable. I am using my existing HDMI cable so not very sure if this is High Speed or not.

I wanted to understand can this be just because of HDMI cable or am i missing some setting at very basic level?
Though i already ordered High Speed HDMI cable but not yet received. I want to be sure that everything else is ok and i just need to change the HDMI cable and i will be able to see 3D movies.

Please suggest if i need to check anything further on settings.
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Try plugging the blu-ray player directly to the projector with a known high speed cable and see if it works. Is your receiver capable of passing a 3D signal?
post #508 of 620
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Originally Posted by Bacon13 View Post

Try plugging the blu-ray player directly to the projector with a known high speed cable and see if it works. Is your receiver capable of passing a 3D signal?

 

Exactly my first question, does your AV receiver have 3D pass-thru, if not that's probably it.  I Googled your receiver ( Sony DDW 5000) and it the description doesn't say it has 3D pass through.  Like Bacon said, work backwards, start with a direct connection from your bluray to the projector and see if that works, then go from there.

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Originally Posted by LordJoseph View Post

Exactly my first question, does your AV receiver have 3D pass-thru, if not that's probably it.  I Googled your receiver ( Sony DDW 5000) and it the description doesn't say it has 3D pass through.  Like Bacon said, work backwards, start with a direct connection from your bluray to the projector and see if that works, then go from there.

Thanks a lot. I directly connected HDMI cable from bluray to projector for testing purpose and got it working with Bluray 3D disk. Moreover, when i contacted Benq customer care they said there is firmware upgrade is required for this model to receive signal from hard disk.

Can any one confirm what is the latest firmware version available for Benq W1080ST? Can i blindly ask for upgrade or shall i verify something before asking for upgradation. The current firmware version is 1.02 and from google search i gathered that latest version is 1.06 where capability to read SBS/OU 3D format are added.

I am yet to check with my receiver and will do that either tonight or sat.

(Not able to give full time to my setup as exams are going on and with some 3D playing in home, they would be surely easily distracted).
post #510 of 620
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Originally Posted by rahulsahay View Post

. Moreover, when i contacted Benq customer care they said there is firmware upgrade is required for this model to receive signal from hard disk.

What do you mean by play from hard disk?
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