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post #511 of 620
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Originally Posted by Bacon13 View Post

What do you mean by play from hard disk?

Actually i downloaded some 3d contents from internet which i wanted to play on projector.
So hard disk will be connected to bluray player and then to projector through HDMI.

In this case, projector is not recognizing this as 3d signal and not 3D option is disable. whereas 2d movies are played without any issue.
post #512 of 620
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Originally Posted by rahulsahay View Post


Thanks a lot. I directly connected HDMI cable from bluray to projector for testing purpose and got it working with Bluray 3D disk. Moreover, when i contacted Benq customer care they said there is firmware upgrade is required for this model to receive signal from hard disk.

Can any one confirm what is the latest firmware version available for Benq W1080ST? Can i blindly ask for upgrade or shall i verify something before asking for upgradation. The current firmware version is 1.02 and from google search i gathered that latest version is 1.06 where capability to read SBS/OU 3D format are added.

I am yet to check with my receiver and will do that either tonight or sat.

(Not able to give full time to my setup as exams are going on and with some 3D playing in home, they would be surely easily distracted).

 

Yeah my 1080st is at version 1.02 also and have been meaning to upgrade it myself.  However I've read that upgrading the firmware voids the warranty, but I'm still going to do it.  :)

 

BTW the w1070 and w1080st are pretty much the exact same units except for the lens (short throw)

 

I just finally have everything set up the way I want it and FINALLY calibrated, so now I'm ready to upgrade the firmware.

 

There was a post/link with instructions, download etc but I can't seem to find it now

post #513 of 620

Actually I think I found it:

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1435626/benq-w1070-dlp-full-hd-3d-ready-with-lens-shift-for-1000/5310#post_23501960

 

Looks like w1080st only has a firmware upgrade to 1.03

post #514 of 620

Did you find out what was going on?  Less than 20 hours on mine and it's doing the same thing.

post #515 of 620
Hey Folks. Looking into the Benq 1080ST. I've read a few things about using the zoom on this projector and that using the full zoom (1.2x) creates the best uniformity across the image and such. Is there any truth to this at all? Thanks!
post #516 of 620
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Originally Posted by LordJoseph View Post

Looks like w1080st only has a firmware upgrade to 1.03

I presume you didn't read 1st post on page 14 with the link to the 1.04 update?
post #517 of 620
Did anyone upgraded the W1080ST to 1.04 ? If yes, request to please share the steps (which a lay man like me can understand).
It will be more useful if there is any video presentation for this.
post #518 of 620
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Originally Posted by rahulsahay View Post

Did anyone upgraded the W1080ST to 1.04 ? If yes, request to please share the steps (which a lay man like me can understand).
It will be more useful if there is any video presentation for this.

Yeah, same here.
I saw the instructions in the 1070 thread, but they were wague. Not something that I'd take a risk bricking my projector with.

Thank you.

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post #519 of 620
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Originally Posted by rolling01 View Post


I presume you didn't read 1st post on page 14 with the link to the 1.04 update?

 

No I didn't but thanks!

 

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Originally Posted by rahulsahay View Post

Did anyone upgraded the W1080ST to 1.04 ? If yes, request to please share the steps (which a lay man like me can understand).
It will be more useful if there is any video presentation for this.

 

I don't think there's an easy way to do this, it sounds like a involved process which is probably why BenQ doesn't encourage it.

 

Just follow the instructions step by step and double-check what you're doing:

 

1. Write down all your settings before starting an update. (If you do not you will loose all your settings)
2. I suggest that you create a new folder on your desktop called 1070 firmware in the new folder.
3. Download the download tool and unzip it to the new folder.
4. Download the new separate 106 img file to the same folder from the link above.
5. .Install the download tool. It is called DLP composer. Also download the Flash Device Parameters file.
5A Copy the Flash Device Parameters. txt file to the DLP composer program file (It is under programs x86 DLP Composer on your C drive.) Use Copy and paste. The folder you want to paste this file to will be on the c drive after you install DLP composer.
6. Open the DLP Composer tool and go to edit, preferences.
7. When the window opens go to communication and set it to USB
8. Close this window and click on flash loader on the opening screen. A window will open.
8. Change the mark to Complete Image Download Put check in Skip Boot loader area Change 32Kb
9. On the top of the flash loader hit the browse button and go to your folder 106 img file.
10. Insert the USB cable in the min plug on the projector and into your computer. (Wait for the drivers to load. This should take a minute with windows 7 or 8
11. Unplug the projector and push the power and auto buttons at the same time. Plug in the projector while holding the buttons. The LED on the projector will turn red if you are in download mode (It must turn red to install the firmware. If it turns orange do this again until you only get the red led) This is very important.
12 Hit the Reset Bus and Start Download. The upgrade process should take about 5 minutes. A timer will start telling you how long it will take.
13. Do not unplug anything during the process. When everything completes the LED on the projector will turn to standby orange.
14. Unplug the USB cable and turn the projector on
15 You will have to put all your settings back in and turn source select to auto
16. Instructions are also available in the service manual PDF you downloaded to your folder.
17. Only do this upgrade at your own risk and if you are familiar with doing firmware updates..
18. You do not need the service tool to do the firmware update the firmware and write down your settings.
Edited by rwestley - 3/25/13 at 1:18am
 

post #520 of 620

Also make sure you download the tools necessary above.

 

It's pretty hard to brick a device with a software/firmware upgrade, but if you're that concerned than it's probably not worth it.

post #521 of 620
I have had my screen and W1080ST installed since friday and I have to say that I am still stunned by the quality of this projector, granted its my first projector setup and I am viewing on a 125" screen but WOW, out of the box the colours and contrast are very good, the blacks are very black and I am not in the least bit disappointed with the results. I would definitely recommend this projector to anyone without question, excellent image quality and quiet too!

AM
Edited by ash_man - 12/25/13 at 10:41pm
post #522 of 620
Just purchased the W1080ST and I'd like to hear some thoughts :-D

I'm planning between 100in and 115in dialog screen. I currently have semi-gloss white walls in my living room. The wall that faces the projectors output (ie; the projector is on a white wall) is actually a dark green, so I believe that's good. The left side is more open and has black wall-units blocking its white wall. The only viewing time I plan to use is at night, so the room is pitch black in this experience. From the projected image to the back green wall, it's 14ft.

With the above in mind, I set up the projector last night for fun, since I don't have a screen yet. Overall, I was quite satisfied with the initial no screen impression. The black level isn't perfect because of the smaller size of the room, but a movie like Avatar I thought looked great. I'd say I'm right on the edge of good blacks in all situations. This was in ECO mode, Normal brightens it up, but I can't say its a huge difference in the room. I haven't configured any colors on the projector as well. Another positive thing I think.

My questions are, what color screen should I get, white? black? gray? Will having a proper screen improve my black levels at all, ie; ambient projected light reflecting back into the room etc. What sort of improvements can I look forward to with a actual screen to project on. Is it at all possible, that blacks can get worse with a screen?

With so many brands our there, given what i've said if anything helps. What brands/types of screens should I stick with, I'm figuring in 500$ for a screen.

Thanks!

PS, this is my first attempt at a projector setting smile.gif
Edited by Klownicle - 12/24/13 at 9:19am
post #523 of 620
Do you guys ever see this projector dropping to the $800 price point like the Benq 1070 does at times? The lowest I've seen is $869 on Amazon. Is that probably the lowest we can expect since this is more expensive to make than the 1070?
post #524 of 620
Hi Guys,

Been debating about purchasing a projector for a long time and just pulled the plug on the 1080ST. Couple of questions regarding setup that I'm hoping you can help me with.

1. I am thinking about a 100" diagonal screen. With the 1080ST mounted on the ceiling....does the center of the lens have to extend an inch below the top edge of the screen? So if the top edge of the screen surface (viewable area) is 5" from the ceiling would I mount that 1080ST so that the center of the lens is 6" from the ceiling?

2. Is there a decent ceiling mount that would give me the flexibility of adjusting this vertical distance from the ceiling? With my ceiling at 8" height and my center channel speaker at 2'10" from the floor the screen will take up most of the available area so I'm guessing the projector will be fairly close/flush mounted to the ceiling

3. Is there a trick to make sure the projector lens is plumb, i.e. perfectly parallel to the screen so I don't get focus issues? Is it best to mount the screen first and then the projector? Is there a ceiling mount that helps with yaw,pitch, rotation to get perfect focus on the screen?

4. When setting up the projector...should the zoom be set to minimum (1.0) or maximum (1.2) or centered (1.10) so I have some flexibility to adjust to screen size?

Thanks,
Sal
Edited by ssaeed - 12/27/13 at 11:52pm
post #525 of 620
Do any of you have this occur with your Benq 1080ST, or I guess any other projector for that matter? What I'm referencing is in the pictures below when watching a Blu Ray shot in 2:35.1 or something other than 16:9, the image does not extend all the way out. Instead, it's met by about 1/2 gray border. I tried moving the projector up and down, swiveling it left and right, but the distance never really changes. It's almost as if there's a fixed separation between the image and the gray part. Now, it's really not all that noticeable, especially when sitting 10+ feet away. I can only tell because I was observing the picture to death. I'm also thinking that having a frame with a black border would make it even less noticeable.

Is this just the way this projector is going to shoot the image, or is there some other setup or placement issue I'm having? Here are some pictures to reference what I'm talking about.










And here's just some photos to show off the picture this projector can put out. The pictures don't do it justice!


post #526 of 620
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Originally Posted by butie120 View Post

Do any of you have this occur with your Benq 1080ST, or I guess any other projector for that matter? What I'm referencing is in the pictures below when watching a Blu Ray shot in 2:35.1 or something other than 16:9, the image does not extend all the way out. Instead, it's met by about 1/2 gray border.




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I had similar issues but only when playing 3d. Picture would not extend to the outer edges and the bottom 10% to 15% was not visible (couldn't see the opening menu). A firmware update did the trick for me. My unit was shipped with the 1.02 firmware and I updated tot he 1.04 version following the instructions on this thread (and the 1070 thread). Issue seems to be resolved.
post #527 of 620
Thanks for the reply. I don't have any issues about not being able to see menus or anything problematic like that. My unit is firmware 1.4 so that certainly isn't the reason why. I know the 131xe has a similar issue, so I'm just trying to see if there's something I personally can do, or if this is just a part of a sub $1,000 projector. Again, with a black border my guess is it won't be noticeable at all. I just want to hear what others have to say before I go ahead and keep it. Any other people's thoughts?
post #528 of 620
And I also just realized my wall is realllly not flat. I used a level horizontally, and what happens is once I place the level on the wall, one side of the level is not even touching the wall. So, part of the wall is bowed inward which may also explain my issue. Its like that on various parts of the wall. My question is this: is the problem im seeing part projector and part wall, or will building a flat screen more than likely solve the issue? Thanks!
post #529 of 620
Try going into the menus and look for a setting called 'overscan' try that when you have a picture up on the wall and see if it gets rid of the border.
post #530 of 620
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Originally Posted by ash_man View Post

Try going into the menus and look for a setting called 'overscan' try that when you have a picture up on the wall and see if it gets rid of the border.

I tried the whole overscan thing. It's set to zero and moving it up just zooms in the image. I've narrowed it down that it's not my wall. No matter what wall I project it on to, and no matter how much moving the projector, twisting it or rotating it, the gray borders are fixed. They never shrink or increase. Is this just the projector or do I have a faulty one?
post #531 of 620
What is your aspect ratio set to?
post #532 of 620
Its set to default: 1920x1080. Is there something im missing here? Its around the entire image.
post #533 of 620
No, I just had a look at mine and I have it too, it doesn't bother me, not sure if adjusting the zoom on the lens on mine will fix it or not.
post #534 of 620
Phew. Glad im not going crazy or got a bad unit. Do you have a screen you are projecting onto? And if so, does the black border make it almost impossible to notice the gray border?
post #535 of 620
On the subject of screens, I'd been using my w1080 on a grey wall and just put up one of those $100 pulldown screens to test it out. As I'd imagined, all it really seemed to do was make things brighter. Since I already have a problem with light reflection in my tiny room this just made it much worse and I'm now getting terrible black levels. At first I was impressed with the extra brightness in 3D but even there I find the black levels intolerable. Screen has a lot more grain than the wall does too. Maybe I just have a really great wall for projection.
Edited by kludd323 - 12/30/13 at 1:23am
post #536 of 620
Wouldnt you have to calibrate for the different screen though?
post #537 of 620
Not to just barge in with a near random question, but how would you guys say the w1080st stacks against the Epson Powerlite 8500u? I don't need 3D, just need the best 1080p picture I can get between the two. I was speaking with a guy over on the Polk Forums, an owner of a w1080st, and I think he's saying go for the 8500u. Lamp life aside, which would give me the best 1080p picture? An **unbias** opinion would be highly appreciated, as well as facts/sound-reasoning to back them. thanks!
post #538 of 620
Actually all I have is a thin black border on the left and right side of my picture, I don't have the 'grey' border you are referring to, and I think its just because I haven't fully adjusted the zoom setting on my projector, sorry. But what I have does look exactly like your photo in post #526.

I am projecting onto a screen.

AM
post #539 of 620
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Originally Posted by ash_man View Post

Actually all I have is a thin black border on the left and right side of my picture, I don't have the 'grey' border you are referring to, and I think its just because I haven't fully adjusted the zoom setting on my projector, sorry. But what I have does look exactly like your photo in post #526.

I am projecting onto a screen.

AM

Ok, so you are seeing what I'm seeing. And in terms of the color, it is a black/grey, but I called it grey because it's not as black as what black would be on the projected image. It's lighter than that. Do you see what I am seeing in post #525 as well then? In all of those pictures? And let me know if changing the zoom on your projector gets rid of that border. Mine stays the same no matter what. Thanks for responding to this as well. I greatly appreciate it.
post #540 of 620
I purchased my W1080ST from Amazon, it arrived overnight and setup with a wall. Just to play you know. After having it for a couple days, I noticed there was a perfect circle on a set area of the "viewing area". It really only showed up on entirely black scenes. Btw, my projector came with 1.02... So I decided to do an advance replacement through Amazon and my new one arrived today. No issues with it, but I was happy to see 1.04 pre-installed on it! Upon further inspection of the old unit, I also noticed some light marks when zoomed up closely. No attempts to clean the bulb would resolve that. So I'm assuming the bulb has some manufacturing defects of some kind. Never-the-less, all is well on the new one and amazon handled it quickly and without hassle. I called BenQ up for giggles, and they were suprised to see such defects on the unit. Go Figure rolleyes.gif

I ordered a Vapex 106in Electric Standard screen yesterday. I've been projecting on my white semi-gloss (satin?) wall, to say the least, my room is quite bright during daylight movie scenes :-/ Avatar looks great tho... Hoping with an actual screen, my experience will get better, else-wise I'm repainting the walls and ceiling matte... Lol

On another note, I figured I would try the cheaper SainSonic DLP Link 144hz glasses, and I can confirm as well the RED is not filtered out. Not sure if I want to keep the pair I ordered for when someone comes over. I just ended up going with the Benq D3's. Oh well.
Edited by Klownicle - 12/31/13 at 8:53am
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