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post #61 of 304
I absolutely love the look of those beasts! You made some really nice looking speakers, and the more I see that finish, the more I like it. How much power will they eventually get poured into them?

For what it's worth, when I helped with the big JBL group buy stuff a couple years ago, I had to break down a lot of empty boxes that housed the 15" woofers. JBL actually took regular black spray paint and sprayed the batting directly behind the port holes.
post #62 of 304
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

I absolutely love the look of those beasts! You made some really nice looking speakers, and the more I see that finish, the more I like it. How much power will they eventually get poured into them?

For what it's worth, when I helped with the big JBL group buy stuff a couple years ago, I had to break down a lot of empty boxes that housed the 15" woofers. JBL actually took regular black spray paint and sprayed the batting directly behind the port holes.

eventually 2-300 WPC they will be being powered by an emotiva XPA-3, which is 2/300 at 8/4 OHM. the HK i had them running off in the basement does an amazing 55 WPC and yea this might get very silly very fast biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

i didn't think about the white showing behind the ports until i snapped the pic and then it was too late, If it bothers me i can pull the woofer and juist put some grill cloth over the inside opening, which should work fine.

IMO they just look mean. the Glossy SEOS horn works well with rillas B&C 15s but i really like the matte one with the 12s

Erich - what size are the screws for the woofers that you included, I either only got 15 or i lost one, I used a drywall screw as a temp but i figure i can go and grab the correct one at some point this week.

Ill prob get one of the fusions put together tomorrow. I have to wait to do the 2nd until PE gets me more barrier terminals - they shipped today or ill lug the tempests up 3 flights of stairs and give them some proper listing


also whats the word on the sub boxes im on a roll at the moment putting stuff together
Edited by Sibuna - 2/5/13 at 9:17pm
post #63 of 304
Man, I even posted about the white showing through the ports being one of the mistakes I made!

Great work, they look fantastic. Get listening so we can hear impressions!
post #64 of 304
Looks great Sibuna, you really did a nice job. I'm wanting to paint random objects in my house with Duratex now. smile.gif I'm glad I stocked up with another gallon. smile.gif

BTW the sub builds will be a breeze after you've gone through these!
post #65 of 304
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Looks great Sibuna, you really did a nice job. I'm wanting to paint random objects in my house with Duratex now. smile.gif I'm glad I stocked up with another gallon. smile.gif

BTW the sub builds will be a breeze after you've gone through these!

I feel the same way about duratex. i think everything that needs to be painted black it will get used for

example
A Lamp
post #66 of 304
Nice work biggrin.gif
post #67 of 304
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So I need to order a mic and this is the question. Go with the omnimic for more $$ or go with one of the others for less + REW?

Is the convenience of the omnimic worth the added cost?
post #68 of 304
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So I need to order a mic and this is the question. Go with the omnimic for more $$ or go with one of the others for less + REW?

Is the convenience of the omnimic worth the added cost?

The new mic from minidsp seems to be a nice option for a very low cost for use with REW:

http://www.minidsp.com/onlinestore/detail/23-acoustic-measurement-tools/flypage/97-umik-1?sef=hcfp

With that said, omnimic is awesome and very easy to use. I've used both REW (with my RS meter) and prefer the omnimic.
post #69 of 304

How did you mount the crossover like that? Velcro? Screws?

 

Does the woofer stick up a bit from the recess?

post #70 of 304
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I used Velcro. I glued some feet on the back of the crossover boards and velcored them to the side
the woofer does stick up slightly, metal a tiny bit and the foam on it more
post #71 of 304
That's surprising that they stick up. I only have one of Erich's baffles for an 8", but my woofer sits perfectly flush in it.
post #72 of 304
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ill check it today, i may need to sand a tiny bit more on my over agressive paint
post #73 of 304
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so I pulled 1 woofer send it some more I really don't think these are going to sit flush no matter what I do doesn't bother me the look unless there's another reason should I bother?
post #74 of 304

It does look like it sits slightly above the baffle.

 

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post #75 of 304
Doesn't matter really. I'd prefer the look of it sitting a bit proud rather than recessed personally. Flush or proud. I've accidently recessed to much and it looks amateur. At least it can be shimmed up though that way.

So are they all built and ready to rock or what?
post #76 of 304
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Doesn't matter really. I'd prefer the look of it sitting a bit proud rather than recessed personally. Flush or proud. I've accidently recessed to much and it looks amateur. At least it can be shimmed up though that way.

So are they all built and ready to rock or what?


they are currently rocking, in a sweet ghetto setup

Dire Straights - Brothers in Arms

Up next some Amorphis - Sky is mine
post #77 of 304
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So i carried them upstairs today, 3 flights of stairs, these things are not exactly light weight, Had to move some stuff around to make room, if you make note of the first pic I posted ion here you can see what i moved.
Old speakers and Sub moved out as well as the random chair (which is super comfortable BTW) Dropped down the Tempests and hooked them up. Ran them from the XPA-3 for most of the time

Initially i just tossed them down to confirm everything was working


Without the flash the woofer pretty much vanishes into the cab, not sitting flush is a non issue



Propped them up a lil after a bit as they are sitting really low currently. Plan is to raise them up almost 2 feet by placing them on the sub boxes when those get built, this works for now


Ran a wide spectrum of music through them, Everything from Classical to Dubstep. Good god these things can just scream at you. They play loud, extremely loud and clear. Running reference could get painful fast. I sit like 8 feet from them and was running them in 2 channel stereo set to large. these definitely will play lower then they are speced. Ill have specs next week but they handled http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gb3faOzvBk perfectly fine. Same song on the opening scene in Art of Flight. Obviously didn't hit as low as a true sub but these would not disappoint as a 2.0 setup when played loud. Same with tracks from the Tron soundtrack. Was rocking some Dylan and someone who was here made the comment that it sounded like we were in a coffee ship in the 60s

Lows play low, highs play high but not too bright. on some tracks that hurt my ears at high volumes with other speakers these just sang along without the pain (assume because of no distortion)
Mic comes next week so no measurements until then. will be really interested in what the readings say.

I should get the fusions together this weekend - i wont have the things i'm waiting for from PE until Friday.

I see that EricH has been updating the sub flatpack info i can not wait!


I'm also gonna need to build stands for the fusions, im thinking sand filled PVC tri pole
post #78 of 304
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So i may have just experience pure audio nirvana. Was playing some stuff today, the clarity is incredible. pretty amazing hearing things in songs Ive listened to 100000000 times and picking up things i hadn't before. These speakers actually give my Grados a run for clarity.

Back on the nirvana comment i actually fell asleep listing to music at near reference in a tiny room. That may strike some as very odd, but to me its not. the loudness is a non factor when its as clean as the sound coming out of these speakers. i closed my eyes and felt like i became one with my sofa and just drifted away
post #79 of 304
The speakers were not designed to have the woofer mount perfectly flush with the front baffle on the Tempest and Zephyr. That's because the outer flange and outer gasket are pretty tall.

If I had them recessed the full amount, it would be nearly a .7" recess.......leaving only .05 left on the outer baffle to line up with the inner baffle. At that point, we'd have to just go the full .75" to keep it from breaking off anyway. But doing that would make lining the inner and outer baffle much more difficult. But with a .5" recess, there's .25" left over on the woofer cutout diameter to easily line it up with the inner baffle.


The 10" and 8" woofers have a thinner mounting flange and outer gasket. I think they were .38", so recessing them flush was no issue. The way the baffles are match the way the designer got them to work with, so no worries.


Also, I need to update the Tempest page. Initially Jeff was going to use 4" ports to tune them higher for extra mid bass kick. But after more listening, he decided the 6" ports were great.....which tuned them lower.
Edited by Erich H - 2/7/13 at 10:34pm
post #80 of 304
"SEOS: So clean, you'll fall asleep."
Edited by Eyleron - 2/8/13 at 9:49am
post #81 of 304
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lol. TBH i felt like a more relaxed version of the Maxel dude

post #82 of 304
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Originally Posted by Sibuna View Post

Back on the nirvana comment i actually fell asleep listing to music at near reference in a tiny room. That may strike some as very odd, but to me its not. the loudness is a non factor when its as clean as the sound coming out of these speakers. i closed my eyes and felt like i became one with my sofa and just drifted away

This would happen to me alot in my old man cave. My wife would come home from work and the music would be blarring and I was dozed off.
post #83 of 304
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well this showed up 3 days earlier then expected
post #84 of 304
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well assuming i'm doing this correctly i would say that does not look bad at all for starters

-15 on the AVR - all EQ off, 2 channel stereo set to "Large" no sub

the only thing that is set is Distance and they are both set to 7 feet

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Edited by Sibuna - 2/8/13 at 5:38pm
post #85 of 304
Jealous. My room sucks.
post #86 of 304
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Jealous. My room sucks.

I know that feeling lol.
post #87 of 304
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finished the xovers for the fusions today. ill stuff them tonight but finial assembly wont happen until tomorrow because i need to pick up more velcro to attach the xovers to the cab with
post #88 of 304
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Wall of Sound



Not sure why this saved so small



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post #89 of 304
Very nice. I'd be curious how that dip at 80hz looks when integrated with your subs.
post #90 of 304
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yeah it will be interesting The Tempest have a dip at 105 when using the same smoothing subs and eq may take care of some of it. Not gonna worry until everything is built
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