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post #241 of 370
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1. Going back to consoles. PS4.

2. "Double down" is a hideous marketing term that should not enter the lexicon of normal humans. Grr.


I always thought doubling down was a gambling term.


Are you buying a PS4 just because, or is there a certain game that will be at launch that you just can't resist ? I can't find the killer app myself, but I know some are buying it, and then just buying COD Ghosts or Battlefield 4 or something. Both of those games are coming to PC, so why spend the $400 for a game you could play on your PC ? Of course, if you're really hyped to play Killzone or Knack, then I can see the incentive of grabbing one at launch. The only game that might sneak up on me is NBA 2K14. But if the PC version is just as good as the PS4 or XB1 version, then again, might as well just stick with PC till one of them releases a game that simply DEMANDS to be played. Neither console has that game coming at launch (IMHO) . Maybe a surprise game will come out of the woodwork to be a launch game, and I'll be proven completely off base. I really hope that happens, because I'd love to get caught up in the hype of a console launch.
post #242 of 370
Lots of top AAA games will be coming out on Ps4 and Xb1, with PCs either never coming out, or coming out much later (I love PC gaming, but it's silly to not buy at least one of the Next Gen consoles). Personally, I love the PS4, but will end up getting both consoles (Kinect 2.0 is a developer's dream for the types of games I want to make)
post #243 of 370
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Are you buying a PS4 just because, or is there a certain game that will be at launch that you just can't resist ? I can't find the killer app myself, but I know some are buying it, and then just buying COD Ghosts or Battlefield 4 or something. Both of those games are coming to PC, so why spend the $400 for a game you could play on your PC ? Of course, if you're really hyped to play Killzone or Knack, then I can see the incentive of grabbing one at launch. The only game that might sneak up on me is NBA 2K14. But if the PC version is just as good as the PS4 or XB1 version, then again, might as well just stick with PC till one of them releases a game that simply DEMANDS to be played. Neither console has that game coming at launch (IMHO) . Maybe a surprise game will come out of the woodwork to be a launch game, and I'll be proven completely off base. I really hope that happens, because I'd love to get caught up in the hype of a console launch.
There are some must-have exclusives coming, but not until 2014. And it remains to be seen what sort of environment the self-published indie scene will be on console. If it takes off, I'll be interested. If not, I'm sticking with PC.

I'm not a sucker for big tent-pole AAA releases, so those do nothing for me. They're fine to rent for a weekend or buy on Steam for $5, but definitely not the kind of games that will sell a whole console to me.
post #244 of 370
The only next gen console I'm interested in at this point is Wii U because of Nintendo's first party exclusives. Otherwise, I'm going to stick with PC.
post #245 of 370
I have both consoles pre-ordered and am looking at doing a possible new build this fall as a refresh. Watchdogs and Forza 5 look to be my first purchases. I'd like to see how Watchdogs PC compares to the consoles though before I make a final call on what platform to buy it on.
post #246 of 370
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I have both consoles pre-ordered and am looking at doing a possible new build this fall as a refresh.

I think I'm going to do a new build late next year when Haswell-E comes out, which is looking quite promising.
post #247 of 370
I have One and PS4 both preordered, but no way am I keeping both.

Right now I have a good PC. It's an i7-2600 with 8 GB of RAM and a GeForce 660 ti. I am fairly confident I will be able to use this machine through this year and into the next while playing games at a decent level. Once more new games start coming out based on newer engines (like UE4) and written for better hardware, it will start lagging and I'll probably look to get a PC. So, like late 2014 or early 2015.

The One has what looks to be a better software lineup. Especially at launch. That Killer Instinct is tempting! So right now I'm leaning towards keeping the One preorder. Plus with Halo 5 due out I am guaranteed to get some good use out of it. I don't care as much about Sony's exclusives, even though I know they have way more than MS.

I'll almost certainly own both eventually, if only for the exclusives.
Edited by number1laing - 7/2/13 at 6:30am
post #248 of 370
i was a hardcore CONSOLE gamer for xbox since launch i had a lot of games... one day i decided to quit, i sold it and i bought a wii(worst decision ever).. so i got tired of the wii after 3 weeks. then i bought a PC with a nice video card and i started playing again Warcraft 3(this was back in 09). i was hook with DOTA on warcraft 3 and i also got battelfied 2. I was doing great with those two games they kept my addiction just fine, then Starcraft 2 came out i am not going to lie but i played for about a year and a half every day, then i got diablo 3, played for 2 months. now i am hooked with DOTA 2 so far 500 Hrs of gaming on dota and i dont think it will stop.

I am not comming back to consoles, there are some great games on PC that i love to play(and they dont need high end graphics too keep the fun) that cant be play with a GAME CONTROLLER, i am fine with my 23" monitor and my little corner in my house where i put my logitech g35 headphones and i am in another world.
post #249 of 370
I think I'm gonna make a return to PC gaming. I got out of it because my desktop - which is a perfectly good computer as far as desktops go - wasn't cutting it game-wise due to it's age and mid-tower form-factor. Currently, I am planning to build a desktop for 4K gaming in the not too distant future and I'm just waiting to see how things shape up next year with the displays, GPUs, and whatnot. I have over 200 Steam titles I haven't even played and I buy more through Steam on Linux all the time. cool.gif
post #250 of 370
Look at this last gen garbage! PC GAMING IS DEAD YOU FOOLS
post #251 of 370
I am pushing mid 40ies and have 3 kids under 10.

We have:

HTPC with Playseat flight sim rig for IL-2.

Wii-U with the 7 highly rated nonviolent games, kids dig it 100%, the bouncing and moving about in HD (3D in fall) and small size and portability make it ideal for vacation.

PS3 with Harmony adapter, the best BD 3D player and media streamer.
post #252 of 370
Linux HTPC for me with Steam loaded and some other games as well. Might set up MAME on it too.
post #253 of 370
I was console gamer but I can't find anything exciting to get well... excited about on either of the consoles (at launch). I've been re-buying a lot of my 360 favourites on steam/laptop lately. I know this is the htPC board but I've been hanging around AVS for a while.

Anyways I love how with steam I can move between computers, and with a laptop, gaming virtually anywhere.

With out the backwards compatibility of Xbox One I'm really starting realizing how a huge section of my games will die when my xbox 360 slim does.
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I really like the fact that games I had bought on steam years ago when I had a crossfire Alieanware I can still download and play.

I think there''s a lot of games out there that are simply time-less Max Payne, GTA, Elder Scrolls/Morrowind I won't go on but I'm sure we can all think of some games.

So I'm planning on getting gaming laptop and a xbox one wired controller to replace my wired 360 controller.
Edited by Ripeer - 9/20/13 at 2:16pm
post #254 of 370
My computer died so I had no choice but to jump into the PC gaming market. I'm not planning on getting a PS4 or One any time soon due to budget. The deals on Steam, at times, are just ridiculous and the consoles can't match them. Also, I'm pretty sure that any decent specced computer is going to look at least as good as the next gen consoles anyway if not better as I've read that next gen consoles are aiming for 1080p 30fps whereas good computers will be able to do full hd at 60 fps game depending. My favourite game for the PS3 was Dark Souls. So, I bought it off steam, downloaded all the mods and it is a completely different game - HD textures, full 1080p, 60 fps. I got a wireless 360 controller and am in gaming heaven. Love it!.
post #255 of 370
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My computer died so I had no choice but to jump into the PC gaming market. I'm not planning on getting a PS4 or One any time soon due to budget. The deals on Steam, at times, are just ridiculous and the consoles can't match them. Also, I'm pretty sure that any decent specced computer is going to look at least as good as the next gen consoles anyway if not better as I've read that next gen consoles are aiming for 1080p 30fps whereas good computers will be able to do full hd at 60 fps game depending. My favourite game for the PS3 was Dark Souls. So, I bought it off steam, downloaded all the mods and it is a completely different game - HD textures, full 1080p, 60 fps. I got a wireless 360 controller and am in gaming heaven. Love it!.

Until GFWL is killed, that game will die too.
post #256 of 370
I thought the PC port of Dark Souls was capped at 30 fps.
post #257 of 370
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I thought the PC port of Dark Souls was capped at 30 fps.

Modders came to the rescue: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=488240
post #258 of 370
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So, the closer we get to PS4 and XB1, the more conflicted I am about buying them. Just last nite, I was playing some Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit in 1080p at 60 frames per second via my now old GTX 560 Ti. I was thinking how good the game looked, and then I started wondering if I would notice anything in a game like DriveClub or Forza 5 or the Next-Gen Need For Speed Rivals that would make me think I'm getting any kind of a real improvement over just playing Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit. Sure, Hot Pursuit is a few years old now, but it was probably the best Need For Speed game in recent memory, one of Criterion's best games.

What are the chances that I'm going to see anything super impressive with the new driving games coming to these next gen consoles ?

What about games like Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed 4 and all that ? I mean, if I get the PC versions of those games, even on my old 560 Ti, will the games look "almost" as good as the Next-Gen versions ? Will the games even look better, on my 2 1/2 year old PC, than the brand spanking new consoles ?

I mean, I know that console games will eventually put my old 560 Ti to shame, but it might take a little while. What's the real incentive for me to run out and buy both of these boxes ?


Still, at the same time, I've been a hardcore early adopter my whole life... why stop now ? I bought the original Xbox on it's launch day. The 360 on it's launch day. Why not buy a XB1 on launch day ? I bought a PS1, PS2 and PS3 all on their respective launch days. Why wouldn't I buy a PS4 on launch day ? Why break the streak ? I totally understand that having a streak like this is kinda silly. I had a much longer streak going with Nintendo hardware, that dated back to late August of 1991. I broke that streak when I didn't purchase a Wii U (still haven't purchased one by the way). So, streaks are made to be broken.

I will also confess that part of me just wants to be a part of the whole launch madness that is going to happen in November and December. Despite the software looking pretty mediocre, there is something to be said for being part of the conversation. Years later, you can look back at the launch and remember what those early days were like. Some of my all-time best gaming memories were during the launches of various consoles.
post #259 of 370
I am only getting the PS4 and that's just for Exclusives. I decided not to get a Xbone because the majority of games coming out will come to PC (Mainly Titanfall). I feel the same way Anthony does. I don't believe I will see anything super impressive with the PS4 as I am rocking a Sapphire 7950 and can play ALL my games at Max (1920x1080) anywhere between 50-100 FPS. I have not played on my PS3 in months and sold my Xbox 360 after the PS4 announcement (to Gamestop for $220) as to Pre-Order the PS4. After playing on PC it's just too hard to play on consoles because of Graphics and the cost of games. I just can't bring myself to pay $60 for a game when I know I can get the same game on Steam, Amazon, GOG etc. etc. for a fraction of the costs.
post #260 of 370
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Originally Posted by Anthony1 View Post

So, the closer we get to PS4 and XB1, the more conflicted I am about buying them. Just last nite, I was playing some Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit in 1080p at 60 frames per second via my now old GTX 560 Ti. I was thinking how good the game looked, and then I started wondering if I would notice anything in a game like DriveClub or Forza 5 or the Next-Gen Need For Speed Rivals that would make me think I'm getting any kind of a real improvement over just playing Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit. Sure, Hot Pursuit is a few years old now, but it was probably the best Need For Speed game in recent memory, one of Criterion's best games.

What are the chances that I'm going to see anything super impressive with the new driving games coming to these next gen consoles ?

What about games like Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed 4 and all that ? I mean, if I get the PC versions of those games, even on my old 560 Ti, will the games look "almost" as good as the Next-Gen versions ? Will the games even look better, on my 2 1/2 year old PC, than the brand spanking new consoles ?

I mean, I know that console games will eventually put my old 560 Ti to shame, but it might take a little while. What's the real incentive for me to run out and buy both of these boxes ?


Still, at the same time, I've been a hardcore early adopter my whole life... why stop now ? I bought the original Xbox on it's launch day. The 360 on it's launch day. Why not buy a XB1 on launch day ? I bought a PS1, PS2 and PS3 all on their respective launch days. Why wouldn't I buy a PS4 on launch day ? Why break the streak ? I totally understand that having a streak like this is kinda silly. I had a much longer streak going with Nintendo hardware, that dated back to late August of 1991. I broke that streak when I didn't purchase a Wii U (still haven't purchased one by the way). So, streaks are made to be broken.

I will also confess that part of me just wants to be a part of the whole launch madness that is going to happen in November and December. Despite the software looking pretty mediocre, there is something to be said for being part of the conversation. Years later, you can look back at the launch and remember what those early days were like. Some of my all-time best gaming memories were during the launches of various consoles.

I finally canceled my preorders for each. There was nothing that really grabbed me at launch and the PC versions of multiplats should all run better on my 680.

I'm a tech guy and usually would buy both, but I'll just let someone else be the guinea pig this time. PC gaming killed my excitement for the new consoles. Sure missing out on the launch excitement kind of sucks, but I'll just let things play out and see what I want when there is a decent library down the road.
post #261 of 370
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Originally Posted by Anthony1 View Post

So, the closer we get to PS4 and XB1, the more conflicted I am about buying them. Just last nite, I was playing some Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit in 1080p at 60 frames per second via my now old GTX 560 Ti. I was thinking how good the game looked, and then I started wondering if I would notice anything in a game like DriveClub or Forza 5 or the Next-Gen Need For Speed Rivals that would make me think I'm getting any kind of a real improvement over just playing Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit. Sure, Hot Pursuit is a few years old now, but it was probably the best Need For Speed game in recent memory, one of Criterion's best games.

What are the chances that I'm going to see anything super impressive with the new driving games coming to these next gen consoles ?

What about games like Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed 4 and all that ? I mean, if I get the PC versions of those games, even on my old 560 Ti, will the games look "almost" as good as the Next-Gen versions ? Will the games even look better, on my 2 1/2 year old PC, than the brand spanking new consoles ?

I mean, I know that console games will eventually put my old 560 Ti to shame, but it might take a little while. What's the real incentive for me to run out and buy both of these boxes ?


Still, at the same time, I've been a hardcore early adopter my whole life... why stop now ? I bought the original Xbox on it's launch day. The 360 on it's launch day. Why not buy a XB1 on launch day ? I bought a PS1, PS2 and PS3 all on their respective launch days. Why wouldn't I buy a PS4 on launch day ? Why break the streak ? I totally understand that having a streak like this is kinda silly. I had a much longer streak going with Nintendo hardware, that dated back to late August of 1991. I broke that streak when I didn't purchase a Wii U (still haven't purchased one by the way). So, streaks are made to be broken.

I will also confess that part of me just wants to be a part of the whole launch madness that is going to happen in November and December. Despite the software looking pretty mediocre, there is something to be said for being part of the conversation. Years later, you can look back at the launch and remember what those early days were like. Some of my all-time best gaming memories were during the launches of various consoles.

 

I've pretty much resigned myself to buying them both on day one, while keeping my PC up to date. There aren't any launch games I'm even excited for...but I know I'm going to get both eventually, so why wait? I'm glad just to finally have a few new platforms to play with, even if all I do is whisper sweet nothings to Kinect and stare at the interface of the X1 until Titanfall comes out.  It's not like it's gonna see a price drop before then.

post #262 of 370
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I am only getting the PS4 and that's just for Exclusives.

What exclusives ? The PS4 has Knack, Killzone and DriveClub. None of those games really excite me at all. My most wanted game is Second Son, but that's in February. I already sold my PS3, with plans of buying PS4 at launch, so i'll probably stick to that idea, since it's almost half paid for already, and I don't have a Blu Ray player in the living room right now...

The thing is, if I'm honest with myself, I have no business buying a PS4 before Second Son is available. Buying an Xbone makes a tiny bit more sense, because I'm actually interested in the Dead Rising 3 game. It's the only next-gen game I've seen that I'm actually interested in playing. I'm very interested in how all the sports games will look on both consoles, but haven't really see any good videos of that yet, so have no idea what to expect. I almost wish I never built a gaming PC in Spring of 2010, because if I just stuck with 360 and PS3, I would probably be impressed by these new machines.
post #263 of 370
I've pretty much made up my mind to cancel my PS4 preorder. Most of the games I want this fall are available on the PC and will probably run and look better than on PS4. I also have a huge backlog of games to finish. My wife and I are also expecting our first child in February so not sure how much time I will have to game after that.

I'll be sitting out this launch and wait to pick up a PS4 after Second Son comes out early next year.
post #264 of 370
Anthony1 - I wasn't talking about Launch Exclusives but Sony's Exclusives overall:

Ratchett & Clank
Killzone
MGS V (hopefully it comes to PC)
God Of War
Socom (HOPEFULLY Sony finally goes back to what made this the Best Shooter Evar)
Uncharted (Plus Sony has Naughty Dog which is just Killing right now)
Legacy Of Kain/Soul Reaver Series (Please, Please, Please Sony)
etc. etc

I just have a feeling that the PS4 is going to be what the PS2 was as far as games for Sony. This is why I Pre-Ordered the PS4
post #265 of 370
I got my first pc gaming rig in Spring 2012; upgraded some ram and video card since then and haven’t looked back. I’ve only been on 360 lately for Madden. Everything else is all PC--mods, pricing, better graphics, framerates, etc., just makes it a no-brainer for me.

I can see getting a PS4 in late 2014 if next-gen Madden is a good step forward, and when PS3 titles such as Uncharted and Last of Us are stream-able. Otherwise, I just have no desire for these new consoles at all.
post #266 of 370
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Anthony1 - I wasn't talking about Launch Exclusives but Sony's Exclusives overall:

Ratchett & Clank
Killzone
MGS V (hopefully it comes to PC)
God Of War
Socom (HOPEFULLY Sony finally goes back to what made this the Best Shooter Evar)
Uncharted (Plus Sony has Naughty Dog which is just Killing right now)
Legacy Of Kain/Soul Reaver Series (Please, Please, Please Sony)
etc. etc

I just have a feeling that the PS4 is going to be what the PS2 was as far as games for Sony. This is why I Pre-Ordered the PS4


Yeah, long term the PS4 will have amazing exclusives. Sony has the best collection of first party studios making games for them. Whatever Naughty Dog makes on the PS4 will be a huge system selling game, even among the hardcore PC crowd I think. Naughty Dog is that good. Second Son is looking good enough to attract a few PC gamers in February.
post #267 of 370
The only game that has me wanting to play it, so far, is the Division. I will bet that game will get pushed back to 2015.

I'm still buying the PS4.
post #268 of 370
Pretty sure Ubi announced a PC version will be coming.
post #269 of 370
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/30/technology/a-shrinking-list-of-blockbusters-dominates-video-games.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130930&_r=0

Can the PC and Console market really support a shrinking blockbuster games trend? Tyrant predicted this one in another thread (Valve). And concluded an end of an era of sorts. I'm unsure...I believe the market will support 2 of the 3 consoles. And PC will continue to morph and grow with eventually 4K, VR/3D and AR. That's why I doubled down on PC gaming for next Generation. I'll eventually buy a console. But that purchase will only happen because a particular console has a must have group of game exclusives I want. I don't need those games on day one. Because I have all of the next gen I need right now with the PC...along with a very healthy backlog of console titles I haven't even played yet.

Right now the only must have for me is Oculus Rift in 2014. And that is because it has exceptional potential to marry with my PC, to create "must have" new gaming experiences (in past & future games). My next must have would be SteamOS...because it will link with my PC...Oculus Rift. And be the must have platform for HL3 & VR games in 2014 & beyond. Next would be XBOS1 in 2014, if Microsoft has the foresight and balls to launch such a platform for PC. They should...because I would easily buy an Xbox One controller and Kinect 2.0 for PC to partner up with it. Right now Sony is the outlier console by default for me. But they could easily zoom to mid 2014 on my console list if they link their own VR system with PS4. And develop that capacity with a backward compatible VR library of PS 3 exclusives like GOW.

I do very little online multiplayer gaming. I am super tired of the annoying "Achievement/Trophy" distractions. They make me play games too differently. I vastly prefer the single player experience against AI. VR could change that dramatically. As game developers will surely ratchet up AI difficulty to ungodly levels when VR hit its full next Gen stride. But that will be an upgraded PC & Mobile phenomenon IMO. Consoles could be woefully behind because of their fixed Hardware architectures and living room dependency. I suspect we will certainly have an advantage by competing against AI in team structures in future VR games. In reality I don't see a new console on my wish list for 2014. Perhaps in 2015 when there are more "Blockbuster" games in the marketplace that interest me. But I could be 100% in VR land by that time. Heck...I'd rather play a modded and streamed current gen game in VR on my PC than a next Gen Blockbuster on a new console. Sorta like the ones below. My excitement & "WOW" factors just aren't there with the consoles. VR integration could change that in a heartbeat though.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/30/vorpx-beta-launch/
Edited by barrelbelly - 9/30/13 at 7:03pm
post #270 of 370
I was a pretty big console owner thru the last gen. I sat out his generation mainly because the more that Sony and Microsoft moved away from gaming
to trying to make the consoles a "Jack of all trades" the further they moved away from making Games the thing that matter, and I knew a dedicated gaming PC
would make more sense, so I'm looking into building one sometime this winter. Let MS and Sony become a programming content provider, and let Steam give me the games I want to play
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