Originally Posted by pred1973
Point still stands that in that photo's all 3 sets are comparable, with the Kuro and ZT looking slightly better than the VT. The VT was last years shootout winner and the ZT is supposedly better than that. The statements about the Kuro being sabotaged for the photo would also indicate at least some small level of sabotage to the VT as well then, as even the pro's say the VT50 was close to 8G Kuro's. Think about that for a second. So they sabotaged a tv that is close to 8G, then sabotaged a 9G Kuro to make the ZT look the same.There is no logic to that. Why not really cripple the hell out of both the VT and the Kuro then, make the ZT look obviously better instead of only equal ? I'd have to hunt down the source again, but there are indications that only 20,000 ZT's will be made. They will sell every single one of them I bet. So there would be no need to go to those measures to sell 20,000 tv's. Its ridiculous the level of denial and conspiracy that some choose to believe, rather than to consider that finally after over half a decade, the best might be matched or bettered.
Ok lets keep it real here. The VT50 didn't match the 8G, in fact it wasn't really close. Black levels negligible.
The processing on the 8G is in a different league. As is the same on a 9G, except the 9G is a whole lot blacker.
This hype we have been hearing for years. And the same old same old DESPERATE for this Kuro to be beaten. People go on and on, bleating about how this is the kuro killer we have been waiting for. Is black level the only thing about Pioneers - no.
If the ZT matches the first 9G's for black level... So what... Is that the be all and end all regarding image quality/integrity. No. It's the anti Kuro guys suffering delusions.
People 'some' are building this thing right up. Let's remember one little fact. Pioneer sold every screen at a large loss. It's a world renowned fact. Yet Panasonic (always) make a profit on each and everyone.
I would wait and see. But please don't jump the gun expecting the world. This still has 3D and other gimmicks that videophiles don't really need. If you want out and out quality - buy a pro monitor with higher grade components. Remembering also that the M's were/are industrial models. If i had believed the hype every year i would have been on my 5th Panasonic consumer model since buying a 9G lol. "But i forgot"... This year is going to be different, like last year, and the year before that, and the year before that. And so on and so on. It's been said this new red phosphor does nothing for rec 709. Its been said not to expect better black levels, especially the last 9G's. It's obvious to anyone that "beyond the reference " doesn't exist. Not in real life and certainly not on a consumer display.
If it matches even three quarters of the all round performance if an 8G. Then it's doing well.