Originally Posted by saprano
Somebody doesn't know what PQ means. Every tv has surpassed the kuro in terms of features and definitely size. But what about pure PQ? Not saying those extra features don't matter, plenty of kuro owners sold their tv for bigger sizes and 3D, but some only care about PQ performance.
Maby if people would stop listening to Taylor swift they would understand the question better.
There's a lot more to PQ than just black levels and peak whites.
And the VT50 color? Sure it's accurate for that specific APL/size pattern they used. But the TV is not that accurate over all. Until someone can show a FULL 3d color chart you really can't say which has superior color overall. It's quite possible the VT50 tracks color really well for a small range of APL, but falls apart outside of that range. Also possible the Kuro tracks slightly worse, but it can maintain that tracking over a wider range of APL. Making it overall more accurate.
Kuro on top of having excellent contrast also had good video processing. Panasonic doesn't have it in the 2012 models.
Samsung on the other hand HAS slowly been improving their processing every year and is significantly ahead at this point. The processing in the top Samsung TV's is very good. Even better than what's in a HQV Vida and QDEO video processors from what I have seen. Although I have doubts that all of these AVR receivers know how to properly use the HQV Vida chip. So that might just be implementation issues.
Lets not forget Panasonic switched to an internally developed video processing chip in 2012 (might have been 2011). I assume for financial reasons, they are struggling. Saving $$ on the BOM can increase your bottom dollar.
So why does processing matter? When watching cable/iptv/satellite not every channel/show is perfectly aligned to match up to a TVs calibration set for targeting 16-234 (or 0-255) in HD709 color space and or a specific gamma. There's lots of things that can just be a little off. Good processing can detect these differences and help the image out (re-align it).
What I find to be a funny argument from some folks is. "You shouldn't need video processing". That's just not true, or perhaps they might not know how much processing is really going on. Look at it this way. What exactly sets apart an OPPO and a Daewoo BluRay player? They both read the same data off the disc. They both transfer it digitally right? So in theory they should look the same right? No. It's all about the video/audio processing the player applies: quality of the video codec, quality of audio codecs, audio/video muxing processing code, HDMI drivers... It's a pretty long list...
There's nothing purist about cable,satellite or IPTV video. The video is mangled... it's re-encoded from who knows what type of master and then sent back out compressed again. By the time you see the video it's on it's 2nd or 3rd generation of (lossy) compression. It's obvious that not everyone knows how to do it correctly/cleanly. Video processing really helps out with these small variances (or sometimes large depending on your provider).Edited by SiGGy - 2/15/13 at 6:52am