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Audyssey and Dyn EQ question

post #1 of 6
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Hi all,

Wondered if I can get some help with my Denon 2311.

I have run Audyssey on it several times and it certainly brings the surrounds to life as well as boosts bass. This is with dyn eq on as I listen at a it -20db, sometimes a bit less. I find that I need to up te centre channel however as the dialogue is a bit quiet.

However, I find dialogue and voices slightly more 'muffled' with dyn eq on-as if the low end has been boost. Turning it off gives mor clarity overall but also loses the level of immersion. I have two questions:

1) is it likely that with dyn eq off, I am getting a more accurate sound representation?

2) Can I simply copy the audyssey distances and eq curve into manual eq and tweak to my hearts content? Would I be missing something that audyssey does?

3) I'm having difficulty getting my head round this concept despite reading many articles online. I keep reading the 80hz is a magic number?

I've run Audyssey on my denon 2311 and it has set the crossover of my centre B&W HTM62 at 40hz. What does this mean aurally and how would a different crossover change things? Many thanks.

Many thanks

J
post #2 of 6
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Originally Posted by JamesP1701 View Post

Hi all,

Wondered if I can get some help with my Denon 2311.

I have run Audyssey on it several times and it certainly brings the surrounds to life as well as boosts bass. This is with dyn eq on as I listen at a it -20db, sometimes a bit less. I find that I need to up te centre channel however as the dialogue is a bit quiet.

However, I find dialogue and voices slightly more 'muffled' with dyn eq on-as if the low end has been boost. Turning it off gives mor clarity overall but also loses the level of immersion. I have two questions:

1) is it likely that with dyn eq off, I am getting a more accurate sound representation?

2) Can I simply copy the audyssey distances and eq curve into manual eq and tweak to my hearts content? Would I be missing something that audyssey does?

3) I'm having difficulty getting my head round this concept despite reading many articles online. I keep reading the 80hz is a magic number?

I've run Audyssey on my denon 2311 and it has set the crossover of my centre B&W HTM62 at 40hz. What does this mean aurally and how would a different crossover change things? Many thanks.

Many thanks

J

You should post this over in the Audyssey thread, you can get some great setup help:)smile.gif
post #3 of 6
1. TV and music audio sources don't use the same "reference level" as do movies so you can improve the center channel dialogue with these sources by setting the Dyn EQ "Reference Level Offset" (p. 54 OM) setting to 10 or 15 which will lower the "reference level" of 0db down to either -10db or -15db (depending on which settings you use) and therefore reduce the impact of DynEQ (ie. rather than having to turn Dyn EQ completely OFF).
2. Although you can copy the Audyssey base curve to the Manual EQ setting, it represents only a crude image of what the dozens of Audyssey filter control points are actually doing. Also with Manual EQ enabled, Audyssey is set to OFF and therefore not recommended.
3. 80Hz is the recommended setting below which the sub can process the audio and above which the speaker can process the audio (with a speaker capable of going down to 80Hz). Also in the case of Audyssey MultEQ and MultEQ XT, there are far more sub filter control points used than speaker control points, so it's more beneficial to have the sub processing more of the audio.

First note that Audyssey has not set the crossover, rather it has only passed the -3db point of your speaker in its current environment to the AVR which then sets the speaker settings of LARGE/SMALL, crossover, distance, and volume setting. So then based on the 80Hz recommendation, and IF you also have a dedicated subwoofer in your setup, change your speakers to SMALL and raise their crossovers up to 80Hz which allow the sub to do the lower frequency processing and provide more headroom to the AVR for the speaker processing requirements.

For more info on Audyssey, review the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide linked in my sig.
post #4 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thank you.


Once audyssey has been done and dyn eq is in, are there negative effects for turning the volume knob down on te sub slightly. It's slightly boomier than I'd like.
post #5 of 6
That's a first as most folks complain it's not as boomy as they are used to on their previous receiver. You may find turning Dyn EQ OFF all together is more to your liking. Otherwise, if you want to adjust the sub, make the adjustment using the remote control "CH Level" button so you can digitally track the change in case you want to return to it at a later date (ie. don't make the adjustment on the sub itself).
post #6 of 6
It's better to get the basics right first before relying on room correction to patch it up. So, check the centre speaker placement, if it's inside a cabinet, move it out a bit (enclosure isn't good for sound); if it's not a ear level then tilt it so it points straight at your ears.
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