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Hi, all - hoping to get some opinions/feedback.

Currently running a 7.1 system in approx. 3200 cubic ft room. The .1 is a 15" Velodyne DLS-5000R (rated down to 23Hz).

I am really interested in moving to a dual sub setup; I have a Velodyne SMS-1 sitting in my cabinet, not currently hooked up.

The Velodyne is discontinued and it is nearly impossible to find a mate for it (at least local to me).

I came across a Precision Acoustics HD15s (sold by Best Buy in Canada, not sure about the US) that is not that expensive right now. It is only rated down to 32Hz and 250W continuous power (the Velo is 600W continuous).

Wondering if adding this sub is worth the time and effort, or just useless?

Option 2 is to sell the Velo and go with a couple of SVS (this is basically the only brand-name dealer in Canada); but not sure which model(s) to go with, and price would be limiting factor.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
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Option 2 is to sell the Velo and go with a couple of SVS (this is basically the only brand-name dealer in Canada); but not sure which model(s) to go with, and price would be limiting factor.
I'd sell the Velodyne, and for a room the size of yours - and without knowing what your price limit is - I'd go with dual PB12-NSDs.
post #3 of 7
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Thanks for the reply.

I should add that my usage is probably 95% movies. The Velodyne definitely has volume, but not sure I am getting that low-end "oomph", especially in the newer movie releases with lots of LFE at the low end.

As far as budget goes, probably 2 PB-12NSDs or 2 x SB-12NSDs would be at the top of my price point right now - or, rather, I should clarify, at the top of the WAF price point smile.gif If SWMBO wasn't going to see the credit card statement, I would probably go for 2 x PB-12 Plus smile.gif

Selling the Velo would mitigate the cost somewhat.
post #4 of 7
I was recently in your position. Coming from a velodyne Deq-15r I found it impossible to find a mate. Sold it locally and decided I'd cure the upgraditis once and for all.

Just purchased a SVS PB13-ultra. While people will argue going with a captivator or a seaton is a better move I too am In Canada and pricing is an issue.

I was considering dual pc12's but figured i'd go with the one better sub and maybe In a year or two I can treat my self to a second. My room is 5700cu feet and while I haven't had more than 2hours to set it up and play around iam hopeful from what I've heard so far that this will really work in my space.

Best of luck,
Nik
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Originally Posted by AC2011 View Post

Hi, all - hoping to get some opinions/feedback.

Go 49'ers. tongue.gif

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Currently running a 7.1 system in approx. 3200 cubic ft room. The .1 is a 15" Velodyne DLS-5000R (rated down to 23Hz).

I am really interested in moving to a dual sub setup; I have a Velodyne SMS-1 sitting in my cabinet, not currently hooked up.

The Velodyne is discontinued and it is nearly impossible to find a mate for it (at least local to me).

I came across a Precision Acoustics HD15s (sold by Best Buy in Canada, not sure about the US) that is not that expensive right now. It is only rated down to 32Hz and 250W continuous power (the Velo is 600W continuous).

Wondering if adding this sub is worth the time and effort, or just useless?

Useless unless you don't mind your sound quality rolling off at the weaker sub's rating of 32Hz. biggrin.gif

If you must keep the Velodyne, then marry it up with a sub rated at 23Hz like the specs of a Klipsch, RW-12d.

But even that option has the output conflict of 12" vs 15" output and how deep each sub will dig in a room when one considers the room gain involved. As suggested by others, the better choice would be to sell the Velodyne and buy two matching subs.
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Originally Posted by hybridfive View Post

I was recently in your position. Coming from a velodyne Deq-15r I found it impossible to find a mate. Sold it locally and decided I'd cure the upgraditis once and for all.

Just purchased a SVS PB13-ultra. While people will argue going with a captivator or a seaton is a better move I too am In Canada and pricing is an issue.

I was considering dual pc12's but figured i'd go with the one better sub and maybe In a year or two I can treat my self to a second. My room is 5700cu feet and while I haven't had more than 2hours to set it up and play around iam hopeful from what I've heard so far that this will really work in my space.

Best of luck,
Nik


That is some seriously awesome sub. But that cost would make my wife kick me in the face...er, maybe not the face....smile.gif But completely understand the thinking here.

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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Go 49'ers. tongue.gif
Useless unless you don't mind your sound quality rolling off at the weaker sub's rating of 32Hz. biggrin.gif

If you must keep the Velodyne, then marry it up with a sub rated at 23Hz like the specs of a Klipsch, RW-12d.

But even that option has the output conflict of 12" vs 15" output and how deep each sub will dig in a room when one considers the room gain involved. As suggested by others, the better choice would be to sell the Velodyne and buy two matching subs.


Yeah, I would definitely prefer two matching subs; was hoping to be able to find a mate for the Velodyne, and hope that the room gain would maybe give me actual output below the rated 23Hz; but no luck getting another so far.

I could potentially get the Velodyne's replacement model at Futureshop; it goes on sale periodically. It has similar specs although it has calibration capabilities. The Velodyne guy in the Velodyne thread suggested that this would mate with mine, but I'm not sure. Also don't know if I really want/need the huge footprint of the sub x 2.
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Originally Posted by AC2011 View Post

I could potentially get the Velodyne's replacement model at Futureshop; it goes on sale periodically. It has similar specs although it has calibration capabilities. The Velodyne guy in the Velodyne thread suggested that this would mate with mine, but I'm not sure. Also don't know if I really want/need the huge footprint of the sub x 2.

Darn those choices. Currently I'm replacing subwoofer drivers to see what I can learn. It's all a learning curve. As long as you're not trying for THX reference levels and stay within the power limits of the Klipsch, RW-12d, something like the Klipsch or a BIC, PL-200 will work.

Again, FYI, the power limitations of the weaker subs becomes the flaw in the match but if you don't overdrive their capabilities, either should integrate with the Velodyne just fine.
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