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ISE 2013 - Optoma ML1000

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http://www.aboutprojectors.com/news/2013/01/18/optoma-will-debut-new-lineup-at-ise-2013/

... Last, but not least is a new compact model called the ML1000. This device weights only 3.2 lbs and features a “Lamp-free” design. It will support a native WXGA (1280 x 800) resolution and will have a built in media player and wireless capabilities to display content from mobile devices...

ML500 has 500lm. So i gues the ML1000 will have 1000lm?

Hopefully there will be no uneven or warmup focus issue and bad rbe.
post #2 of 26
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WXGA (1280 x 800)
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Edited by Elix - 1/21/13 at 1:23pm
post #3 of 26
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difficult in terms of resolution without a new size matching dlp chip from ti wink.gif

but a 1000lm led would be a very good perceived brightness and is a big step forward.
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New images of the ML1000, with touchpad, 1000 Lumens an a rather peculiar design...

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Will it stay cool ?

Wonder how hot the thing gets, if it will melt the lens, if the lens is glass or plastic, if it uses cheap capacitors that will blow up, if it does 3d, if it will be good for gaming.

Number one in my book is will the dam thing focus.

While looking for more info on this projector I came across the ZX212ST 2,300 ANSI Lumen LED Projector. Some info here Optoma launches LED+ ZW212ST and ZX212ST XGA/WXGA Short Throw LED/Laser Hybrid Projectors. I couldn't find prices on any of these.

Edit: Anyone able to find a release date for any of these? (1280 x 800) is fine for me, 90% of what I watch daily is on netflix or some other lower res stream.

Edit: Found the Optoma - ZX212ST for $1500 and the ZW212ST for $1,599.00
Edited by Amber Ale - 5/25/13 at 12:38am
post #7 of 26
Yeah that focus thingy does not inspire much confidence where I can see this thing get jammed up.
Just as bad as the LGPA70G and 75U focus tube design.
post #8 of 26
The full specs for the Optoma ML1000 is on the Optoma UK websight.
It has 15,000:1 contrast.
Same most likely Texas Instrument 0.45 DMD diamond pixels.
post #9 of 26
This link (which was published 7/19) claims this PJ is now available, but I still don't see it anywhere. Anyone see it anywhere? They quote a price of around 800 pounds.
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by flyingsherpa View Post

This link (which was published 7/19) claims this PJ is now available, but I still don't see it anywhere. Anyone see it anywhere? They quote a price of around 800 pounds.

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/3949248_-ml1000-optoma.html

https://www.beamershop24.net/advanced_search_result_.php?keywords=Optoma+ML1000&x=0&y=0&gclid=CP6RhsjdvrgCFdHMtAod8hAA7A

for this price you get a better bargain.
if it's anywhere near the ml500,then it should be a piece of junk,not talking about the spec.,about the build quality & software.
post #11 of 26
Optoma know it is the TI 1080p LED chip customers most eagerly looking forward too. Portability is not an issue for those home cinema enthusiasts , however there is no pj from optoma LED light source which is purely for home pj setups.
Edited by Romi12 - 7/23/13 at 4:21am
post #12 of 26
For those who might be interested in this projector or the ML800 model I saw a seller in WA state who's selling it for $ 849.
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Looks like those companies took the sneaky route and repackaged all those new projectors in different cases but it looks like all those new higher lumens projectors basically have all the same internal electronics inside or maybe I am mistaken ?
Remember the clone projectors ?
The nickname for this Optoma ML1000 ? the wedge or spaceship ?
I saw on the LGPA75U that someone got it about 2 months ago and still are having focus problems.
We would have thought that LG would have heard from consumer complaints and fixed the problem.
That's enough to steer me away from that generation of LG LED projectors.
I wait until the jury is out on this Optoma ML1000 or the ML800 before I consider it.
I might be mistaken but I think I saw on one web sight that the 3D is 120 HZ with this projector.
The contending projectors I might buy are the Acer K335 and the Vivitek Qumi 7 .
post #15 of 26
Once upon a time, I wanted a LED projector, but after owning so many 1080p projectors, a dim 720p projector will not work for my eyes. Plus, now there are cheaper dlp projectors from Benq, Viewsonic, and Acer that have 6000-8000 lamp hours with cheap bulbs under $1000 that are very bright. Maybe when they start making affordable 1080p led/laser projectors under $1000, more will be suitable for HT. I'm sure once 4K gets here, 1080p led/laser will be more affordable
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by DLPProjectorfan View Post

I wait until the jury is out on this Optoma ML1000 or the ML800 before I consider it.
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About jury don't expect too much from this new ML1000 rolleyes.gif
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Arghh, another crappy higher lumen projector....

All I want is this and I will be VERY happy:

What I want:
- Uniform focus
- >=1080p regular pixels
- >=300 lumen
- Very fast LED switching(I am very RBE sensitive) with DLP or LEDs with LCD
- >= 60Hz refresh rate
- Maybe a zoom

What I don't want:
- Diamond Pixels
- Color wheels

It can be a large projector. It doesn't have to have USB, just one HDMI.

That is all I want. Is it really so difficult?
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by LeonZA View Post

Arghh, another crappy higher lumen projector....

All I want is this and I will be VERY happy:

What I want:
- Uniform focus
- >=1080p regular pixels
- >=300 lumen
- Very fast LED switching(I am very RBE sensitive) with DLP or LEDs with LCD
- >= 60Hz refresh rate
- Maybe a zoom

What I don't want:
- Diamond Pixels
- Color wheels

It can be a large projector. It doesn't have to have USB, just one HDMI.

That is all I want. Is it really so difficult?

they call me drunk for saying that biggrin.gif
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if it is like 5000€ ( $6415 ) + screen fee + light and room setup + lamp for 20k
I better off with Sharp LC-80LE757U for just $4k
LED tv
1080p
240Hz
3D
never get with projector like LED tv PQ
and ones the 4k tv hit the market ( mas production i mean ) trust me 1080p tv will sell like a water ( next year ) wink.gif

customers waiting 4k tech and we are stuck with 1080p projector with that much of ....( here and there )
and yah lucky to have 720p projector ( man thats an led lamp in which its stay 20k ) hit me in the head - Acer K335 and ML1000 and so on ( where the hell 1080p one ) and cheerup it will be only $1000 ( cut the crap) tongue.gif
the projector marketing is somehow pity ( sorry to say that ) mad.gif

just freaking out biggrin.gif

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1455132/optoma-hd91-full-led-dlp-full-hd-2d-3d-ready-september-2013/90#post_23559074
post #20 of 26
Expect much as in compared to what ? the Acer K335 or the Vivitek Qumi 7 ?
or build quality ?
The design of this thing looks more like the 80s junk.
The internal electronics are basically the same as the Acer K335 and the Qumi 7 like the clone projectors ?
We wait for your review anyway.
I saw on projector central street price for the ML800 for around $ 924 eek.gif.street price for the ML1000 for $ 999.
Since the Optoma ML800 as in 800 lumens on one websight I saw for $ 849 would it be expected the Vivitek Qumi 7 for the same since it's still only 800 lumens and they should not expect to sell it for $ 1000.
Other than the physical zoom lens on the Qumi 7 and possible glass lens why should it be sold more than the ML800 ? it's basically the same projector internals just built by a different company.
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by DLPProjectorfan View Post

Expect much as in compared to what ? the Acer K335 or the Vivitek Qumi 7 ?
or build quality ?
The design of this thing looks more like the 80s junk.
The internal electronics are basically the same as the Acer K335 and the Qumi 7 like the clone projectors ?
We wait for your review anyway.
I saw on projector central street price for the ML800 for around $ 924 eek.gif.street price for the ML1000 for $ 999.
Since the Optoma ML800 as in 800 lumens on one websight I saw for $ 849 would it be expected the Vivitek Qumi 7 for the same since it's still only 800 lumens and they should not expect to sell it for $ 1000.
Other than the physical zoom lens on the Qumi 7 and possible glass lens why should it be sold more than the ML800 ? it's basically the same projector internals just built by a different company.

you are right .. thats an old marketing game they playing !!
any ways waiting Cedia 2013 what will be showing up ....
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Thanks Kraine another disappointment , a lot of potential and other fail .

I have a pa70g and i m quite happy using like second projector , i will can live with it if was 1080 and with more sharp optic .

But the color problem at the moment not can be fixed for any of this kind of projectors even acer k750 has problem colors
and no so sharp like the lamp projectors where is the problem are the filtering lens the colors of the leds is the light concentrator or what .

For me the more irritating problem by far is the lack of sharp in the picture
the color sometimes is like a little bit more of sugar.


Saludos
post #24 of 26
I'm sorry for you Jasinto. The sharpest mini-projector that I have seen was the Qumi Q5.
post #25 of 26
Thanks alot Krane smile.gif
I was not expecting much from this PJ ( not disappointed )
post #26 of 26
One more video about the Optoma ML1000 and thats' it wink.gif Next please !
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