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post #31 of 97
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Originally Posted by ask_j View Post

I have a question though, how would you place central channel in this case?

Years ago; in the interest of WAF simplicity, I replaced our 5.1 system with a soundbar. Its mounted to the top of the TV with brackets.
post #32 of 97
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Originally Posted by BrutalBodyShots View Post

The center channel placement I believe is the biggest down side of over mantle mounting of the TV. I'm currently struggling with this. I'm going to get my TV mounted first and then see what kind of room I have left to play with and come up with the best solution.

You could use a pair of speakers (wall mounted at side of TV) as a center. (will be a little high when the TV is down but not too bad

If the TV speakers are OK for dialog, so receivers allow use of those as center)

I've heard lots of case where people had better dialogue with NO center speaker, so give it a try. You may be trying to solve a problem you don't have

Soundbar that mounts to top or bottom of TV

Center speaker on mantle and acoustically transparent flat panel smile.gif
post #33 of 97
I'm using a center channel and a Kinect sensor on top of the fireplace (below the tv), which makes the TV even higher. Fortunately, the couch is far enough away that I don't have to tilt my head too much.

SONY 55HX820 3DTV MOUNTED ABOVE FIREPLACE
post #34 of 97
Hey, what's cooking? Oh, just my TV.
post #35 of 97
I'm guessing you don't own or understand how a fire place works.
post #36 of 97
Howdy Folks!

I’m probably going to try one of mantelmount.com products, and I’ll post up pics, my thoughts, etc.

I’ve generally been a naysayer about mounting TVs over the fireplace: our good friends have a small TV over theirs and it’s _way_ too high, it’s like sitting in a planetarium ... that being said, for us, we could make use of the space in the main TV room. Since we can’t really put furniture in front of the fire place it only gives us three walls so-to-speak worth of usable area. If we moved our set over the fireplace, we could really expand the sitting area. We’re also in Florida (beautiful Vilano Beach), so I can’t even remember the last time we fired up the fireplace, but this would still give us the +option+ to use it (and we’d probably be listening to music and not focused on TV use, so retracting the TV to the up position would work great).

That position would also be outstanding for viewing from the kitchen (it’s not very optimal now, like a 30-35º angle).

FWIW, the TV will be a Panasonic 54G25 plasma, it’s a bit chunky, but the specs indicate ~65lbs without the stand, and the mount is supposed to be good for 100lbs. We could also swap the 55” Sony LED in the bedroom if weight is too much of a concern since that set is ridiculously light. The only other arrangement issue is the other gear (AVR/AppleTV/360/PS3/DVR/switch/UPS), it’s on a nice Sanus rack, but that will probably fit nicely in a corner (since the corners are kind of “behind” the TV).

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post #37 of 97
Hey, not trying to start a conflict. smile.gif

In fact I do own a fireplace and I have the same issue with the room designed around the thing. Personally I don't like the mess of fireplaces. They are also a great way to suck the heat out of the home. I live in a small mountain community where many people only have wood fueled heat in their homes. Ever winter somebody damages or even partially melts mantel mounted displays. Maybe this is possible with a small natural gas fireplace but they aren't legal in our county due to safety reasons.

Since a proper EPA III wood burner insert would result in a remodel costing about $10K, I landed on this solution.

post #38 of 97
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Originally Posted by Abit Distorted View Post

Since a proper EPA III wood burner insert would result in a remodel costing about $10K, I landed on this solution.

Beautiful fireplace, love the stone. Our long[er] term plan (i.e., beyond just mounting the TV) is to have ours redone with with kind of natural stone/rock (anything vs. the current wood/tile design).
Edited by [DT] - 12/2/13 at 5:57am
post #39 of 97
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Originally Posted by Abit Distorted View Post

Personally I don't like the mess of fireplaces. They are also a great way to suck the heat out of the home.

Gas logs dude. They're brilliant. Never ever used our fireplace because of the inconvenience/mess. Had gas logs install (and vented up chimney). Fantastic
post #40 of 97
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Originally Posted by Abit Distorted View Post

Hey, not trying to start a conflict. smile.gif

In fact I do own a fireplace and I have the same issue with the room designed around the thing. Personally I don't like the mess of fireplaces. They are also a great way to suck the heat out of the home. I live in a small mountain community where many people only have wood fueled heat in their homes. Ever winter somebody damages or even partially melts mantel mounted displays. Maybe this is possible with a small natural gas fireplace but they aren't legal in our county due to safety reasons.

Since a proper EPA III wood burner insert would result in a remodel costing about $10K, I landed on this solution.


I like that solution. Would probably work for me - our gas fireplace is use about twice a year. I am interested in the mantle mount solution when somebody gets a chance to do a review.
post #41 of 97
No gas logs around here, they were banned by local building codes after a few houses blew up.

Anyway, back to point of trying to have a workable home theater in room built around a massive focal point like a fireplace can be a big issue. I had originally planned on welding up a hinged type mount that would swing the monitor completely away from the fireplace. I finally said the heck with the fireplace and closed it off with plywood and covered it with acoustic foam. It's mostly covered by the monitor and center speaker so it blends ok. There is still a lot of work to do like carpet and maybe even drywall for better acoustics.

This is obviously a budget solution. If money were no object the home theater would not be in the living room.
post #42 of 97
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Originally Posted by Abit Distorted View Post

No gas logs around here, they were banned by local building codes after a few houses blew up.
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That's bizarre. I could understand banning the unvented ones, but don;t see an issue with the ones that vent through a chimney, but c'est la vie
post #43 of 97
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Originally Posted by BrutalBodyShots View Post

I ordered the mantle mount a few days ago and it shipped the following day so I'll likely have it late this week or early next week. I was impressed with their shipment promptness since it clearly says to allow 1-2 weeks for delivery when ordering.

Really looking forward to hearing what you have to say about the mount and the company.

 

Thanks!

post #44 of 97
Got a paypal shipment notice today. Does anybody know where its shipped from? Please don't say China, I have a disdain for slow boats.
post #45 of 97

Guys you may not realize that everyone who subscribes to "New Found Deals" Forum gets notification of every post on every thread in this forum area.  Almost all the threads are only a few posts long as the intent is pretty much to simply announce a deal, or competing deals.

 

So it would be really nice if you're going to have ongoing discussion of this item to start a new thread in an appropriate  area such as

http://www.avsforum.com/f/3/home-entertainment-amp-theater-builder

and post the link to it here.

Thnx

post #46 of 97
It ships from California I believe.
post #47 of 97
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Originally Posted by anthony fremont View Post

I think I'm going to purchase one of the mantlemount hangers. The price seems decent for the functionality. I have a 40 year old house and this is the only place to put the TV and have a reasonable surround sound setup I'll let you all know if/when I get it.
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Originally Posted by astropuppy View Post

Pulled the trigger on a mantle mount and associated cables etc from monprice.
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Originally Posted by BrutalBodyShots View Post

I ordered the mantle mount a few days ago and it shipped the following day so I'll likely have it late this week or early next week. I was impressed with their shipment promptness since it clearly says to allow 1-2 weeks for delivery when ordering.
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Originally Posted by [DT] View Post

I’m probably going to try one of mantelmount.com products, and I’ll post up pics, my thoughts, etc.
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OK, cool, I ordered too, just now in fact. Hopefully we get it before Christmas, we’ve got company coming and I’d hate to just have to have it just sitting in front of the fireplace biggrin.gif I’m in Florida, so I think it’s got a long trip ...

FYI, my measurements were: 54” diagonal, ~60lbs, TV mounting points at 22w and 12h, TV is 32.5" high, mantle extends 9" out, height above mantle 41.5" - seems like a perfect fitment.

I actually considered the other mount that was the reason this thread was started, but at $569 with the swivel option vs. $199, plus the Mantle Mount having a nice cover for the bracket, it seemed like a no-brainer ... assuming the quality is there on the MM, and some additional research confirmed it’s supposed to be outstanding.

The shipping is $35 flat to c-48 states, so $234 total.
post #48 of 97
Took 5 days to get here. Very pleased, cable management hardware is still on its way.



post #49 of 97
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Originally Posted by astropuppy View Post

Took 5 days to get here. Very pleased, cable management hardware is still on its way.



I'm seriously looking to pull the trigger on one of these. Thanks for your post!

Question: How big is your Television? I'm wondering because, I can se the mount in the "Up" position and I'm not really fond of that.

Also, what are your thoughts on the craftsmanship? Is it sturdy? Does it work as advertised? And how much vertical drop do you get?

OH...and one last thing.... how is the angle in the "down" position?

 

Thanks!

post #50 of 97
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Originally Posted by seefilms View Post

I'm seriously looking to pull the trigger on one of these. Thanks for your post!
Question: How big is your Television? I'm wondering because, I can se the mount in the "Up" position and I'm not really fond of that.
Also, what are your thoughts on the craftsmanship? Is it sturdy? Does it work as advertised? And how much vertical drop do you get?
OH...and one last thing.... how is the angle in the "down" position?

Thanks!

Our TV is 47" with the soundbar it weighs +50 pounds. I believe 50 is the minimum weight. Its in the instructions. The little thing on the bottom your seeing in the up position is not the mount, it is the pull handle used to pull it down. It comes with a wall cover to hide the wall bracket. Its very sturdy. Angle is good. works as advertised so far. The supplied wall lags are cheap and bend easily, I attached it to the wall with 3" deck screws.

Ours could actually drop a little more.
post #51 of 97
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Originally Posted by astropuppy View Post

Our TV is 47" with the soundbar it weighs +50 pounds. I believe 50 is the minimum weight. Its in the instructions. The little thing on the bottom your seeing in the up position is not the mount, it is the pull handle used to pull it down. It comes with a wall cover to hide the wall bracket. Its very sturdy. Angle is good. works as advertised so far. The supplied wall lags are cheap and bend easily, I attached it to the wall with 3" deck screws.

Ours could actually drop a little more.

So should I plan to score some different fasteners right up front? Per above, I ordered mine this past weekend, and I got shipment confirmation on Monday, UPS showing a delivery this Friday (which is pretty quick given I’m on the opposite coast !)
post #52 of 97
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Originally Posted by [DT] View Post

So should I plan to score some different fasteners right up front? Per above, I ordered mine this past weekend, and I got shipment confirmation on Monday, UPS showing a delivery this Friday (which is pretty quick given I’m on the opposite coast !)

I did including washers. Definitely need two people; my wife helped me without any problems.

I would also attach the main mechanism to the frame before mounting it to the wall. It only takes a second to drive the first screw into the wall and take most of the weight. Where getting the main assembly bolts started with the frame on the wall is a pain.
post #53 of 97
I'm a bit pissed off at the moment regarding the mantle mount. It turns out my TV may actually be too BIG to use it which no where on the web site or in the 5 pieces of criteria does it mention. It says your TV must be at least 47" (or more) and weigh 40-100 pounds. My TV meets those requirements... 70" and 86 pounds. In one of the first steps of installing the bracket when you attach the 2 bars to the rear of the TV it says in the owner's manual that the bars need to come to LESS than 1" from the bottom of the TV. If I lower the 2 bars as far as I can possibly go, using the uppermost holes to mount them to the TV I am left with 3.5" of space between the bottom of the TV and the bottom of the bars. I emailed mantle mount about this asking if it is a deal breaker and have not heard back when they are usually very prompt to reply.

If I end up not being able to use the mantle mount I'm going to be really pissed as no where on the site does it suggest a TV is too big to use this bracket, outside of being too heavy at over 100 pounds. I better not have to pay to ship the thing back either if that's the case.
post #54 of 97
From an engineering standpoint (in terms of structural design), I don't see any issues with the vertical brackets being 3" from the bottom vs. 1". However, I believe the L-shaped pull down "handles" mount to the bottom of those brackets, and probably won't unless the brackets come down to within 1" of the bottom.

I suspect they'll say it's OK, but you won't be able to use the pull down handles.

Good luck, let us know how CS handles this!
post #55 of 97
The handle adjusts approximately 2" up and down.
post #56 of 97
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Originally Posted by [DT] View Post

From an engineering standpoint (in terms of structural design), I don't see any issues with the vertical brackets being 3" from the bottom vs. 1". However, I believe the L-shaped pull down "handles" mount to the bottom of those brackets, and probably won't unless the brackets come down to within 1" of the bottom.

I suspect they'll say it's OK, but you won't be able to use the pull down handles.

Good luck, let us know how CS handles this!

You were 100% correct; the handle is just not an option for me at this point but the bracket still works fine. I just had to adjust the mounting of the wall plate on the wall to be the same distance higher as the brackets on the back of the TV are. I only have about 1" between the mantle and the bottom of the TV, so there wouldn't be room for the handle anyway.

Fortunately, after removing the TV stand there are now 2 holes on the bottom of the TV frame where the stand inserts used to be - it's quite simple to use those 2 holes with 2 hands to lower it.

So far I'm very happy with the mantle mount, seems to work great!
post #57 of 97

Awesome, glad it was just a slight tweak to how you'll be using it!

 

Mine arrived today, I'll shoot a few "unboxing" and installation photos.  My intent is to install it tomorrow, but it's been a little crazy around here with Christmas, my startup, etc. :D 

post #58 of 97
Cool, good luck!

A piece of advice however, and I think someone else above pointed this out already - the 4 lag bolts that they include to mount the plate to your wall into 2 studs are absolute garbage. In fact, I broke one of the bolts right in the middle when driving it into the wall and I didn't have all that much torque on it at the time. I would scoop up 4 solid lag bolts, about 3/16" or if you want to really feel confident 1/4" to do it right. For all of $1 spent this certainly would be the way to go. I'm pissed I didn't take the advice of the poster above that made this suggestion. Kind if disappointing that when you spend $200 on a bracket you get 4 very poor quality bolts, and they are arguably the most important 4 pieces in the box.

One other minor issue that I ran into that I have yet to rectify: I think the security holes on the back of the TV mount brackets are slightly off alignment. By security holes I'm talking the holes the 4 screws go into to prevent the TV from being lifted up and off the bracket once installed. I can get 3 out of 4 of them in just fine, but the 4th doesn't line up. It's only off by probably 1/32" but it's just enough to not allow the machine screw to get started. I'm likely going to take a dremel and buzz the slot on the bracket ever so slightly to allow me clearance to get the screw started. Not like it's a big deal; they are only safety screws and 4 is probably overkill to begin with. Technically only having 1 on would be enough to prevent someone from lifting the TV up and off anyway.
post #59 of 97

Done.



This product is put together really well:  great build quality, clean welds, finish looks great (looks PC'ed), also packaged really well.



Took the outstanding advice from the couple of posters above and picked up some SS 1/4x3" lags from The Depot, some additional washers too.  I used a 3/16 on the pilot holes (the instructions said 11/64, but all my other projects with lags I used 3/16th), a little soap rub to smooth out running them down, got them very snug, but not lean-into-tight so no issues.



Everything was pretty straight forward, lots of measuring, lots of holes confirming stud locations. biggrin.gif



We've got cables to deal with, the whole AV rack to re-wire, I did pick up a Redmere HDMI cable that makes that part of the cable effort _so_ much easier.  Possibly paint the covers, but we might use some vinyl wrap.



We can see the TV from the kitchen and even my office now (in fact, I'm using the Remote App on my iPhone to control the Apple TV) biggrin.gif



I wound up leaving off the T-handle too, there's a cross bar (with a rubber handle) that can be used, or the bottom of the set, just didn't think it would help much.



I've got a few pics of the packaging, parts, install, etc., but again, please consider this still a work in progress, the fireplace doors are getting replaced ASAP smile.gif



DT



[Just a sec ... pictures on the way ...]



(Redmere HDMI cable, crazy diameter vs. the normal anacondas I get from MonoPrice!)

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High grade SS fasteners vs. supplied lags

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Edited by [DT] - 12/15/13 at 4:51pm
post #60 of 97
Nice work! The install looks fantastic. Thanks for the pics as well.
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