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post #121 of 224
I wondered about that. Nothing lost as I can use the fast card in my DSLR!
post #122 of 224
What DSLR do you have that takes advantage of that speed?
post #123 of 224
Just a normal one... I'm not saying it needs that speed, but it will allow for longer burst shots if nothing else. If the card is too fast for me, why do they sell them?!
post #124 of 224
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Originally Posted by eglons View Post

Just a normal one... I'm not saying it needs that speed, but it will allow for longer burst shots if nothing else. If the card is too fast for me, why do they sell them?!
Reading about SD cards at Wikipedia suggests the fast cards were developed before anything needed them. Maybe "future proofing"? I've recently read that the brand new Nikon D7100 can write data fast enough that, in the burst mode, there is some advantage. Maybe the new GH3? And, certainly new 4K cameras (with four times the data produced than our current 1080p60 28Mbps cameras) will need more speed.
post #125 of 224
My 6-core PC has USB 3.0 and I like using fast 95mb/s SDHC/SDXC cards with my USB 3.0 reader to upload my HD videos very quick but I only buy them when they are on sale.
post #126 of 224
That's another good reason!
post #127 of 224
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Originally Posted by jogiba View Post

My 6-core PC has USB 3.0 and I like using fast 95mb/s SDHC/SDXC cards with my USB 3.0 reader to upload my HD videos very quick but I only buy them when they are on sale.
I'm looking for a USB 3.0 card reader. Which do you have?
post #128 of 224
i got a genuine panasonic battery from the new 2013 models, vw-vbt190 1940 mah. selling for $100 plus shipping if anyone needs one
post #129 of 224
I just got a product alert notification from bhphotovideo.com that the double capacity VWVBT380 is (finally) in stock. $129.95 + shipping ($3.99 super saver shipping to my address.)

videodirect.com are still listing these at $79.95, but they are also still saying "coming soon". Maybe it really is soon, now.

In any case, I will wait a bit longer for the generics, I think. wink.gif
Edited by plugger2 - 6/4/13 at 11:24am
post #130 of 224

Built in mic did ok with the loud exhaust.
post #131 of 224
that's crazy price...
better wait...
checking almost daily on ebay
post #132 of 224
Hello gentlemen
I have a question, as why such a thing happens with the image after recording ?



PLS help i was recording with PH1080/50i
Ive checked the frame rate and it was 25 FPS it that the problem ?
Edited by Roziu87PL - 6/10/13 at 1:32pm
post #133 of 224
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Originally Posted by Roziu87PL View Post

Hello gentlemen
I have a question, as why such a thing happens with the image after recording ?
Do not shoot TV screens, LCD or fluo lightbulbs, LCD-based car lights etc unless you adjust shutter speed for device refresh frequency. Pro camcorders have fine adjustment, consumer ones do not. So if there is slight difference in frequency in one of the devices, you will see these bars.
post #134 of 224
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

Do not shoot TV screens, LCD or fluo lightbulbs, LCD-based car lights etc unless you adjust shutter speed for device refresh frequency. Pro camcorders have fine adjustment, consumer ones do not. So if there is slight difference in frequency in one of the devices, you will see these bars.

Hey thanks for the tip, but i was no filming any kind of device, i was behind a window and was filming a thunderstorm smile.gif
I have a solution biggrin.gif i think, is it possible that my cell phone made the interference on the video ?
post #135 of 224
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Originally Posted by Roziu87PL View Post

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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

Do not shoot TV screens, LCD or fluo lightbulbs, LCD-based car lights etc unless you adjust shutter speed for device refresh frequency. Pro camcorders have fine adjustment, consumer ones do not. So if there is slight difference in frequency in one of the devices, you will see these bars.

Hey thanks for the tip, but i was no filming any kind of device, i was behind a window and was filming a thunderstorm smile.gif
I have a solution biggrin.gif i think, is it possible that my cell phone made the interference on the video ?
Then it was the overhead lightning bouncing off the glass.
post #136 of 224
Nope i found that the CMOS sensor is bad with lightning, that's why I've got those stripes :/
post #137 of 224
2 questions, the 720 says it is a 3d ready camcorder, what does this mean? I see there are no optional 3d lenses for this camera, so how is the 3d used?

2nd question. I have narrowed my wifes bday present down to this, and the panasonic hc-920, is the step up from the 720 worth paying an extra $500 for?
post #138 of 224
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Originally Posted by bbear44 View Post

2 questions, the 720 says it is a 3d ready camcorder, what does this mean? I see there are no optional 3d lenses for this camera, so how is the 3d used?

2nd question. I have narrowed my wifes bday present down to this, and the panasonic hc-920, is the step up from the 720 worth paying an extra $500 for?

I scanned the .pdf instruction manual and there are about 30 references to 3D. Basically it says if you can "convert" 2D to 3D footage for playback on the right TVs. It would be "simulated" 3D.

You can check the differences here: http://shop.panasonic.com/compare/?itemNbr=HC-X920K&itemNbr=HC-V720K

The two biggest differences I saw were the better lens and better sensors, which I would pay for. But, if it is to shoot birthday parties in broad daylight, you might never get your money's worth.

FWIW, I've been married 45 years to the same woman. A long time ago a great friend advised me to NEVER give my wife something that has a plug attached. He added that if I couldn't think of anything on my own, I should walk through the front door of a jewelry shop and double the budget as self punishment for not being more creative. Further, he said that when you get to the counter you double the budget again so that you don't forget your lack of prior planning. My wonderful wife has a lot of jewelry! The last piece is a gorgeous Zuni silver and inlaid necklace and matching ear rings. My friend has been married a long time too!

Bill
Edited by bsprague - 6/16/13 at 7:24pm
post #139 of 224
I believe the 3D converter lens system for the 700 (Panasonic has released two version of this at least) is also compatible with the 720, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/849146-REG/Panasonic_VW_CLT2_VW_CLT2_3D_CONVERSION_LENS.html (not sure if this is the older one or newer one.)

I agree it's not at all well documented though. I'd call b&H photo to confirm, I'm sure they'd be right on top of it.
Edited by plugger2 - 6/17/13 at 7:11pm
post #140 of 224
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Originally Posted by plugger2 View Post

I believe the 3D converter lens system for the 700 (Panasonic has released two version of this at least) is also compatible with the 720, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/849146-REG/Panasonic_VW_CLT2_VW_CLT2_3D_CONVERSION_LENS.html (not sure if this is the older one or newer one.)

I agree it's not at all well documented though. I'd call b&H photo to confirm, I'm sure they'd be right on top of it.
I have the early version of that lens when it was sold as a package deal and labeled SDT750. The camera in the package had all the spec of the TM900, as far as I could tell.

There is menu stuff to support that lens in the camera. Scanning the 720 manual suggests that lens would do nothing on the 720. There is nothing in it to support the lens.

3D is a lot of fun, but not unless you have the TV and glasses. Unfortunately it has been a marketing disaster. With the exception of a few good 3D Hollywood movies and the ones I make myself the 3D feature on the TV does not get used much.
post #141 of 224
Hi all,

I’m currently deciding between X800 and V720. Would appreciate some help from somebody who owns one or other device.

Played with X800 a bit, one thing I didn’t like was a mechanical fan - it makes a noise and this is likely to be noticeable in quiet scenes. Does V720 have a fan as well?

Has anyone compared video quality of these two cameras? I think in theory X800 should record better video (the same sensor as X900), but is there any noticeable difference (especially in low light)? I would prefer all the bells and whistles of V720, but don’t want to sacrifice on video quality (and 920 is over my budget).

Also, on some forum read that V720 has a built-in light (not just a flash) that can be used in recording video. Is that the case, can’t see anything in specs?
post #142 of 224
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Originally Posted by arunas View Post

.....Has anyone compared video quality of these two cameras?

Welcome to the forum!

The Panasonic fan in various models has been discussed frequently. Some have been able to record the noise. They have to leave auto gain on, get the camera hot and lock themselves in a silent room.

Low light is tough to define. Most cameras on the market now will record when there is some light. None record in pitch black. If the light is too low, turn on some light bulbs. If it is the "low light" of a night concert or stage, the stage lighting, if good enough to see, will record.

This is a (mostly) amateur forum. The odds on someone owning both and being able to comment with comparative experience is slim to none.

If you have fun with "bells and whistles", go with that and enjoy!
Edited by bsprague - 6/20/13 at 12:55pm
post #143 of 224
The V720 DOES have both a flash for still pictures and a light for video recording. That one one of the main features that led me to buy the 720. Another is the quality of the still pictures I am able to take, both while recording video and stand-alone still-taking. The stills during video are pretty damn good, but the regular stills are excellent, better than I can get with either of my two (admittedly old) digital cameras. So the V720 replaces both my old camcorder and digital cameras, with significant improvement over them all, in a not-at-all-bulky unit. That means that for any event, or on vacation, this is the only camera I need. Perfect for Grandpa-ing!
post #144 of 224
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Originally Posted by GURUPERF View Post

........Perfect for Grandpa-ing!
Have you taught your grandkids how to shoot and edit yet? It's a hoot! My granddaughters are quite good at it.
post #145 of 224
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Originally Posted by GURUPERF View Post

The V720 DOES have both a flash for still pictures and a light for video recording. That one one of the main features that led me to buy the 720. Another is the quality of the still pictures I am able to take, both while recording video and stand-alone still-taking....

Thanks, I'm not really worried about stills, have a DSLR for this. The main things I need are decent video quality (to look good on 50'' TV) and a good image stabilisation. My current Sony mini-DV camcorder is pretty noisy, that's why I'm a bit worried about mechanical fans. Has 720 got a fan at all?

Light can be pretty useful. My Sony has infra-red so can record black and white in complete darkness. I found this quite useful in some situations. Visible light would be as useful. Was a bit surprised that X800 didn't have this.

@bsprague
I appreciate that nobody is likely to have both camcorders at the same time. They just in a similar price category at the moment and it is possible that somebody did comparisons before buying one or another.
post #146 of 224
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Originally Posted by pmhanson View Post

Ungermann,

WOW, how did I miss that. I even wrote it right.

By the way:
Panasonic responded to my query-

re: Camcorder HC-V720

Does the camcorder support UHS-I SDXC Class 10 memory cards?

with

Case: 30360593
Thank you for your inquiry. The unit should be able to utilize this memory card.
Thank you for contacting Panasonic


Interesting that Panasonic told you that the V720 supports UHS-I data rates.
I asked a similar question and was informed:

"Regarding your enquiry, if this camcorder would have been compatible with UHS SD cards, this information would have been included in the user's manual. This type of SD cards is not mentioned in the manual, so no, you cannot UHS SD cards with the HC-V720 camcorder, only the ones recommended. "

So it seems this topic is somewhat unclear.
I think I will assume that it does not support UHS-I rates, then if we find later it does, Bonus !

Also, thanks to everyone for contributing to this forum -> Very Interesting smile.gif
post #147 of 224
Had a bit of a disappointing experience with my new HC-V720...

I decided to get the V720 as an upgrade from my Panasonic SD60. Overall it's a significant improvement but oddly the V720 performs substantially worse in low light. I took video with the two cameras in IA mode, low light mode, manual mode with the iris opened to max (all the same settings for both cameras) and also color night record mode. In every case the older camera performed noticeably better than the new one.

The poor low light performance is especially baffling since the V720 has a much larger CMOS.

Anyone have any idea why this would be happening?



[EDIT to fix typo]
post #148 of 224
Hello,

I intended to buy v720, and i search and read from web what i find about this camera....i found even 3 real sample with her..and...i don't liked

http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/2/84/2014/11057568/9/panasonic-hc-v720-video-sample-1.zip

http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/2/84/2014/11057568/10/panasonic-hc-v720-video-sample-2.zip

http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/2/84/2014/11057568/11/panasonic-hc-v720-video-sample-3.zip

i seems to be to much grany in baground at this light and image have to much brightness, in my opinion...
you know another sample from this camera on web ?? maibe is just a unadjusted setings for that light...
post #149 of 224
Is there any high external options for power? I will be using the camcorder pole mounted with direct control via ipad wifi 30ft below

The only thing I could find was this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BDBW2YM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2A0S1EFTOKAMN


Thanks
post #150 of 224
I have compared video quality of both camcorders (V720 and X800) and will share my findings in case anyone else finds this thread looking for similar information.

Filming outside in daylight both camcorders produce great video. I think X800 is slightly sharper and produce richer colours but difference is not very obvious.
Filming indoors under artificial light, however, X800 wins hands down. Much better picture in every aspect – sharper, better colours and less noise. Under very low light both devices produce quite a bit of noise, but X800 still looks noticeably better. With V720 you obviously have an option to switch on the flash light, which actually does pretty good job.
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