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post #31 of 224
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Originally Posted by plugger2 View Post

@lucasberg: Do you consider the CP important? Your outdoor shots look very good. What brand/model CP were you using?

When I was researching a new cam I came across a video filmed in the desert that looked amazing. In the comments somebody asked how he got the colors so bright and the they said any time he was outside he used a Circular Polarizer.
I bought this on when I got the camera http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/56629-REG/Tiffen_46CP_46mm_Circular_Polarizing.html

So far I like the camera, I think it is a good upgrade to my TM90 (broke my TM90) I do a lot of time lapse so I am really glad they put it in this one.

I'm playing with the colors +1 or +2 to see how it works. I will use my Gopro Hero3 black with this cam a lot together. I think it will be easier to match this cam to the Gopro which is very saturated.

The stabilizer is a definite upgrade. You can get weird stabilizer jitter once in a while but for the most part it is very smooth.

I edit using Sony Vegas Pro11 and editing is just as easy as my TM90.

I'll try to post some more soon, just some random stuff I want to test myself.
Edited by lucasberg - 3/19/13 at 7:46am
post #32 of 224
Well, I am one who jumped the gun and bought the Wasabi double pack at the same time I ordered my HC-V720. Definitely won't work as others surmised. They're back in the box and getting shipped back to Amazon tomorrow. Bummer that we have to wait for larger replacement batteries for this thing.

Until then, I plan to use it near a power outlet. So much for our vacation plans....
post #33 of 224
I've just gotten this camcorder and I am having the same issue trying to find batteries.

Someone said that the same happened back when the VW-VBK batteries were released, and eventually people had to wait for the batteries to be in the market. From your experience, do you guys believe this stalemate should be sorted before May?

If I don't see this happening, packing this back may have to be a reality... regrettably, as I like what I've tried so far.
post #34 of 224
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Originally Posted by Newman's Own View Post

Well, I am one who jumped the gun and bought the Wasabi double pack at the same time I ordered my HC-V720. Definitely won't work as others surmised. They're back in the box and getting shipped back to Amazon tomorrow. Bummer that we have to wait for larger replacement batteries for this thing.

BUMMER!!!

I just got my V720, and was contemplating getting the Wasabi (made for the V700, assuming it would have worked with the V720).

Thanks for informing us, though!
post #35 of 224
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Originally Posted by Alfalfameister View Post

I just got my V720, and was contemplating getting the Wasabi (made for the V700, assuming it would have worked with the V720).

You certainly weren't the only one making this assumption. If I had realised what the deal was, I would have just bought the previous model and been done with it. I was tossing up anyway (all the new features on the 720 are "nice to have/play around with", but nothing necessary as far as I was concerned).

Particularly since the main motivation for making last year's batteries incompatible would be to simply bolster the revenue lost to the Wasabis of this world, I think it's poor form that Panasonic couldn't get their act together enough to ensure the necessary accessories were available when the product was released. Imagine if Lexmark brought out a new printer to great reviews only for new purchasers to discover you couldn't yet get ink cartridges for it!

So it's greed coupled with ineptitude (or worse, simply contempt and callous disregard for their customers). In any case, not a good look.

I won't be buying a Panasonic battery in any case. I will wait for the Wasabi or equivalent. I'm not going to reward Panasonic with any more of my business anytime soon.

Edit: As it happens, I'm also shopping for a replacement home theatre projector at the moment, and I'd narrowed the choice down to between an Epson and a Panasonic. I guess Epson gets the nod (they are reputedly very good on customer service). At least this has made that choice simpler for me...
Edited by plugger2 - 3/24/13 at 1:28am
post #36 of 224
Just received this from the store I bought the camcorder from:
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Dear M Rui H,

Thank you for contacting Pixmania regarding your order number ***********.

First of all, let me apologize for the inconvenience caused. Unfortunately, we do not have the mentioned batteries on our website and neither any information when we should have those. Regarding the (...).

Please accept my sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused by this. If you would like to discuss this matter further please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards,
***

Best regards,
Your customer care agent
post #37 of 224
I've had ZERO luck getting any informed or even intelligent response from Panasonic. Anybody else having any better luck? I'd refer to them as idiots but then that would be a compliment given what I'm seeing.
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post #39 of 224
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Originally Posted by xfws View Post

You can pre-order the VW-VBT190 battery for the V720 at B&H:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/938031-REG/panasonic_vw_vbt190_lithium_battery_3_6v.html

If you are going to go the pre-order route, videodirect.com is advertising significantly cheaper prices than bhphotovideo.com for these batteries.
post #40 of 224
Hey. I'm totally new to camcorders. I've filmed some with my Pentax K7 and my iPhone 4S. Now I want something dedicated to filming. But I'm a noob smile.gif

I was going to order the Panasonic v500 when I came across this thread, and now I'm leaning towards the V720 or the V700. But, can you please explain to me, why I should chose the 720 over the 700? Or could I just go with the 700 and put the money I save on that on a big SDHC and maybe another battery?

Or what about the X800? Gaaah! So many options! smile.gif

Thank in advance.
Edited by rdny - 3/24/13 at 2:16am
post #41 of 224
If you can find a 700 on a clearance sale and save money over a 720, buy it. You may not find a 700 now. Panasonic replaced them with the 720 and there are not any significant changes.
post #42 of 224
As of a week ago the V700's were still available on E-Bay and Amazon
post #43 of 224
Regarding filters:

If I want to use a UV protector filter and a circular polarizer for outside filming or a UV protector and a fluorescent daylight correction filter for interior filming can I stack 46mm filters or should I use stepup adapter between the UV and secondary filters? The adapter I am looking at is a 46mm to 58mm lens ring adapter.
post #44 of 224
Good news for the UK lads. I have found VW-VBT190 and 380 in stock here:

http://shop.panasonic.co.uk/on/demandware.store/Sites-GB-B2C-Site/en_GB/Search-Show?q=vw-vbt380
http://shop.panasonic.co.uk/on/demandware.store/Sites-GB-B2C-Site/en_GB/Search-Show?q=vw-vbt190

So close and yet so far. They don't deliver to Ireland. frown.gif

I guess that now that it's in stock, it will only be a matter of time now to spread out. I hope.
post #45 of 224
Generally from what I know you would only want to use a step up adapter to be able to use lenses and filter sizes that you already use for other cameras. This said I would never use any quality camera without an adapter or filter lens attached. The threaded end of your lens is the most vulnerable part of your camera. It takes very little impact force to ruin the threads and make it useless for future attachments. Also any sort of filter over your camera lens will protect it from dirt and scratching. Use a quality adapter lens, keep it as thin as possible to keep filters close to the lens, step up if you have or can get other attachments at a better price in a larger size.

Here is a good read on filter lenses you might like.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/camera-lens-filters.htm
Edited by Maverickx50 - 3/24/13 at 2:57pm
post #46 of 224
I picked up a 720 after having to RMA a brand-new, steeply discounted ($399) 700 to Newegg. The motor closing the doors to the lens ground to a halt, and the camera wouldn't turn on after that. Off to B & H for a full price 720, and a few other things. The cost difference was only a little over $100, since B & H ships free and doesn't charge me sales tax (CA).

The bad:
As others have noted, the "old" batteries from the 700 will not fit the 720. I now am the proud owner of a 2 Wasabi hi cap batteries, along with the pluc in charger and the car adapter.

The good:
The camera performs very well. I only had the 700 for a couple of weeks, so I can't really make a direct comparison. This weekend I was able to do some preliminary tests.
I put the footage here:http://www.blackdiamondtrout.com/Video/720test.wmv
Edit:Youtube version:

Edited by McFlyfi - 3/27/13 at 9:16pm
post #47 of 224
Nice demo!
post #48 of 224
Did or will any of you purchase your new V720 directly from Panasonic? If not where (USA Only) did you get it from and why?
post #49 of 224
I bought mine from bhphotovideo.com. They were the first place I saw that had it in stock, they have reasonable prices, and enjoy a very good reputation all round.
post #50 of 224
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Originally Posted by plugger2 View Post

I bought mine from bhphotovideo.com. They were the first place I saw that had it in stock, they have reasonable prices, and enjoy a very good reputation all round.
Their service and satisfaction policies are so good, I buy from them whenever I can.
post #51 of 224
I bought mine from Cyberphoto in Umeå/Sweden. Fantastic service and the staff is very knowledgeable.
post #52 of 224
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Originally Posted by rdny View Post

I bought mine from Cyberphoto in Umeå/Sweden. Fantastic service and the staff is very knowledgeable.

Did you happen to ask them about the battery availability issue?
post #53 of 224
Came across a problem today. Probably easy to fix, but I thought I'd ask people opinions who may have more experience.

Took delivery of a new HD projector today (Epson 750HD). Thought I'd try to put the v720 through it. So I connected up the HDMI output of the v720 to the HDMI input of the projector. Video is fine, audio is a problem.

The projector has a monaural 2W speaker to play sound that comes in through either the HDMI input or the LR RCA analog inputs. But it has no LR audio out (or audio out of any format) that I can discern. So how am I supposed to listen to the nice 5.1 audio recorded on the v720 except through a tinny 2W monaural speaker?

My old Hitachi projector had audio out as well as audio inputs. But it was pre-HDMI. Do more modern HDMI capable projector generally not have audio outputs, or is the 750HD just particularly feature challenged?

I'm thinking that I may have either get a HDMI audio splitter, something like this :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-HDMI-to-HDMI-Audio-RL-SPDIF-Support-5-1-7-1-HDMI-Conveters-Adapter-/271103332167?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f1f048f47

or I have to use the 4-pole analog av output from the v720 in parallel with the HDMI output. That is, send HDMI video + audio to the projector (but only make use of the video signal), and send the analog audio signals via the av output to the sound system amplifier.

Actually, I don't even have a 3.5mm 4-pole connector for the v720 at this stage. To make matters worse, it appears the 4-pole 3.5mm plug is not a standard -- different manufacturers put the L,R, composite video and av gnd, on different rings on the lugs. mad.gif The Panasonic user manual (p100) simply says compatible composite video cables are "commercially-available", whatever that's supposed to mean.

This all seems far too clunky and difficult to be true. If someone can show me a simple solution to such an obvious problem, please enlighten me!
Edited by plugger2 - 3/27/13 at 7:13am
post #54 of 224
Back to filters:

When I stacked a 46mm Tiffen CPL over a 46mm Tiffen UV protector filter I got vignetting (light fall-off or blackening at the edges of the image) in wide angle shots. When I used a 46mm to 58mm step-up adapter and stacked a 58mm Tiffen CPL over a 46mm Tiffen UV protector filter there was no problem. There seemed to be no degradation in picture quality.

Re: iPad/Android control

After setting up the WI-FI link, it works great with both operating systems. Note: keep the camcorder and the controlling device separated by a couple feet to avoid audio feedback. I have 2 HC-V720's and can control one at a time with either operating system or both at once, one with my iPad and the other my Motorola Razr. There is, however, a noticable but small lag time in the remote operation. I haven't experimented to determine the effect of remote control operation on the battery life of either the camcorder, the iPad or the cell phone.
Also, still haven't had a chance to try out the home monitoring feature yet.
post #55 of 224
I'm glad I found this forum as I am looking to purchase either a Panasonic HC-V700 /720 .
At the moment it looks like the 720 is less expensive as I can pre order one for 548.00.from Amazon.

I'm not sure if this suggestion will work for those who want to purchase extra batteries but someone can chime in who knows if this will work.

I always shoot video outside and then upload it to YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmiGV_Q9-O4

I know lots of camera shake(Canon Vixia HF R11 ) truly run and gun but it works for my audience

I'm using a 7 inch monitor that burns through batteries really fast. So I use this battery bank that outputs 12 V to power the monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker%C2%AE-Astro3-10000mAh-Multi-voltage-output/dp/B005NGKR54/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_1

It is a little smaller then a Samsung S3 smart phone but nearly twice as thick .

The USB ports on the battery bank outputs 5V, 2A which is the same as the output from the HC-V700 power adapter.

With the included connectors you could go directly into the port on the camera that accepts the power adapter and just put the battery bank in your pocket.

Again I'm not sure if this would work So hopefully someone here will know.
post #56 of 224
Took the 720 out tonight to test the "miniature mode" Set it on a tripod and let it go for about 45 minutes.
The results are pretty cool, better than I expected.
post #57 of 224
3D is no longer possible with the optional 3D lens like in V700? I can't find this in Panasonic site.
post #58 of 224
Sorry guys I haven't had much to post except family stuff. I did find a cool macro subject today. I also tried out the Raynox DCR-250 on it today.
post #59 of 224
Impressive! Great ad for the Raynox lens, actually. I had a look at the prices for these -- very cost effective for someone wanting to start dabbling in macro.

From the descriptions I was reading of the dcr-250, it wasn't clear to me that it would fit on the v720. Did you need an adapter to make it work, or does it fit out of the box?
post #60 of 224
I used a 46mm to 43mm step ring make it work. I had one from an old camcorder from before. I am loving this camera so far.
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