That’s just dastardly, but then so are a few other things/angles I have noticed you bring up in other threads. What's hard is when you go visit a friend and his wife says look at what dip stick just bought! isn’t it something? They know I’m into sound so I suppose they take my coyness as possibly being jealous. What the heck can I say? sit there and trash there new system. I have with a trusted few, but being right isn’t always the best policy with friends as we all know.