New DVDO Quick6 - Page 2

Are you absolutely sure Mark, that it is not a Matrix switch? I glanced through the user manual but I didn't see matrix capability
http://www.dvdo.com/documents/DVDO/DVDO%20Quick6_UGX-SV0228.pdf
Edited by audvid - 4/11/13 at 1:16pm

yes, according to my understanding , it is just a switch: a matrix switch can send any combination of inputs to any combination of outputs, much like my Gefen 8x8 matrix switch

The Quick6 does have two modes for the HDMI AUX out but that is just an AVR mode: in every case you are switching several inputs but there is only one output that is mirrored

Mark,
Thanks for clarification. I almost bought this, assuming its a matrix switch.

There are several 4X2 matrix switches, I forgot what I paid but I think they are both under $100, on amazon (and I think on monoprice). They are not quick.. they seem ok.

I own a couple of them. They do work but not perfectly.. Long story but they essentially work as matrix swtiches - each with certain idiosyncrasies.

silicone image introduced a 6X2 matrix chipset:

http://www.siliconimage.com/Company/News_and_Events/Press_Releases/2011_10_3_Silicon_Image_Introduces_Industry-First_6x2_Port_Processor_Featuring_InstaPrevue%E2%84%A2_Technology_and_ViaPort_Matrix_Switch_for_Multi-Room_Viewing/

In fact, they call it instaport.

This dvdo is a waste for me. $400 and not even a Matrix? DVDO site is not even clear on their web page. They should have used the "mirrored output" term and clarified that its not a matrix switch. I hope they get stuck with a lot of returns..

I shall continue to look/wait for the slilicone image chip based 6X2 units.. I am surprised that it is taking so long.. because that chipset was announced last year.

Well I quite like it.

I'm sure you know that Silicon Image own DVDO but that's by the bye.

I can understand your disappointment but perhaps the Q6 is not as useless as you suggest.

Certainly if you have read the manual you will at least get a flavour for some of its features and capabilities.
They may not have the specific feature you require but does that make this as redundant as you suggest?

I am writing the following, as a friendly debate and not to offend you in anyway. This is only my personal preference and not meant as a general opinion. There are many inexpensive 6X1 matrix switches and 1X2 mirror devices which in the past, were quite sufficient for my use. Personally, I really don't care about PIP. If that's what someone wants, I guess its worth spending $400 on this device. I would assume that faster switching and auto switching are both very convenient but it is my personal opinion that I would not spend $400, without it having matrix capabilities. I didn't know (or I forgot) that silicone image owns DVDO and now am even more surprised that they didn't incorporate matrix capabilities - I might even venture to guess that the chipset they are using might actually be matrix capable.. or maybe not.

In general, I don't understand why they have $60 ($80?) 6 X1 switches but no one else makes a 6X2 matrix in low price point. Geffen and others being very expensive. I saw some chinese sourced 8+ X ? matrix switches but in the $1500 price range. What is it about the matrix that makes them so expensive when a simple 6X1 is so cheap?

I tried two 4X2 matrix switches to simulate 6X2 matrix (each under $100 I thought) but it just didn't work out well. There were handshaking issues.

Thanks for reply,

I am uncertain whether DVDO are using the SI chipset you refer to in this Switch (lets hope that is the case) but as you say if that is so it would probably have the capability to have the feature you require.
In which case a firmware update may solve it for you?

Going to be receiving on this weekend to utilize for 3D, 4k signals to an LG 84", so will post once it's configured and working (hopefully!)

Got a Quick6 hooked up last night with sources like Oppo BDP103, a 1 month old PC with top specs (and NVidia Titan card going in today for 4k output), cable, AppleTV, Dune Base 3D, etc. Shows some promise but so far not passing 3D automatically. Had to use the "force 3D" option on the Oppo and it then worked. Not passing through the PC output at all to our LG 84" Ultra HD (although the 2nd HDMI feeds our AV receiver and I use that output for a 2nd TV, and the computer displays just fine on that). Could be an EDID handshake issue. Also trying to work through ARC setup as 3D has a sync issue while 2D from all sources works just fine. Switching is pretty fast. The Preview function of the various sources is pretty cool and a nice feature (although obviously not a need to have). Have left a detailed message DVDO to work through a couple of these issues, and hopefully they're just user error

That's a nice post silverlight. I am very intrigued with the Quick6. If I didn't have a Duo already I would definitely own one now. Until I get a source that does 4K scaling better than 1080p through the Darblet into my 1000ES I am content.

I'd pay good money for anything that allows me to switch between sources and see/hear the next one faster. Can't they do a firmware upgrade for my Duo? I'm not going to buy another switcher when I have an 8-port scaler/switcher with most inputs unused.

I read the manual over and over and I still don't see the point of this unit. Why not just buy a DVDO Edge? You'll get a switcher AND a scaler. IMHO a switcher that costs $400 is absurd when you can get the identical functionality from other brands for around $150 (especially because I don't see the point of the preview function).

One of the reasons why I bought my Duo was to get faster picture acquisition. And I've been sorely disappointed in that area. I'm tired of waiting several seconds before I can see a picture and do what I need to do. Time is money, and all those 3" intervals do add up. Sure it's nice to have the scaler, but the crash sync when I switch sources is awful! Crash sync was never this bad in the analog domain.
My first 4-channel HDMI switcher was around $200, and that was with crash sync. Yes, I'd pay an extra $200 or more to get all the advantages of genlock and frame buffering at home. If the Quick6 was on the market when I got my Duo, I'd probably have gotten it instead, and saved myself $400+.

As for picture-in-picture, I can think of a few occasions where I'd use it. I don't particularly need a full-time second monitor, so P-i-P would be ideal for me. If you don't need it, just don't use it. *shrug* And if you can find a less expensive HDMI switcher that maintains sync when switching between sources, please share!

Dunno, I change HDMI source before I'm watching a movie and that's it. I don't go back and forth between inputs. Also I use a projector, so a 3 second HDMI sync is not goign to make or break the movie watching experience. It takes at least 15 minutes to properly warm up the projector anyway. YMMV, of course.

My deal is that I have two TiVo boxes and some other stuff. So I'm constantly switching sources to monitor the various tuners, enter programming data etc. If you're not switching between sources as often, it's probably not a big deal for you. Cheers!

Thank you for the explanation. I hardly watch anything else but blu-ray to the point I tend to forget the need of instant switching.

Thanks again!

Cheers

I am seriously considering an Octava HD41 ARC and I saw this DVDO Quick6 Model.

I plan to have a TV and Soundbar connected to an HDMI switch. The audio needs to be passed to a wireless headset when the soundbar is turned off. The TV has built-in applications such as Netflix, which should work simultaneously for the headset and soundbar. The soundbar and headset won't be used simultaneously.

Sharp 60" (847) TV

Sharp Soundbar

Octava HD41-ARC 4x1 HDMI Switch with ARC and Optical Audio Output

In the HDMI forum, Joe Fernand said the connection concept below would work:

AV Devices (Apple TV, PS3, etc.) connect to the Octava HDMI Inputs.
Octava HDMI Out to TV HDMI input 1 (see manual p. 12 and 57-58)
The Octava Toslink output is split with one PCM stream going to the soundbar, while the other is converted to analog audio and passed to the headphones.

I'm not concerned about Dolby Digital in this setup, just clear PCM audio getting where it needs to go.

Please let me know what your thoughts are regarding the switching capability of the DVDO Quick6 vs Octava HD41ARC. I don't care about instant preview and fast switching.

What I DO care about is fast handling of the optical audio output from whatever switch I choose, so I don't have lip sync issues. I also care about 3D signals working correctly.

From an end user perspective, the most tangible difference between these models (if instapreview is turned off) is faster switching and a nicer remote on the DVDO Quick6.

Thanks.

Some questions:

Does the Quick6 pass multichannel audio to the HDMI, coaxial audio, and optical ports simultaneously?

Does Quick6 pass ARC audio from primary HDMI output to the auxiliary HDMI output *and* the coaxial audio and optical ports--simultaneously?

Has the Quick6 had issues with passing 3D from your Blu Ray player to the Primary HDMI output?

Thanks

@Grayleaf,

Here's my answers (in bold) based off reading the user guide and playing around with the device.

Some questions:

Does the Quick6 pass multichannel audio to the HDMI, coaxial audio, and optical ports simultaneously?
Yes. But coaxial and optical cannot support HD audio so if the audio format is HD audio then only HDMI will carry the signal.

Does Quick6 pass ARC audio from primary HDMI output to the auxiliary HDMI output *and* the coaxial audio and optical ports--simultaneously?
No. Currently Quick6 can only pass ARC to coaxial and optical ports.

Has the Quick6 had issues with passing 3D from your Blu Ray player to the Primary HDMI output?
No issues. Quick6 supports 3D and 4K pass through.

Hope this helps you! Love my Quick6.