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post #121 of 1309
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

* Unless you don't care about your neck.



Seriously. TV over fireplaces are such bad ideas majority of the time and those planning pics above look like an awful place to put a TV. If you had to mount there then just go for the biggest TV. Worring about PQ when you are mounting a TV in a terrible viewing place doesn't make sense. Just go for sheer size
post #122 of 1309
Actually, a smaller size would be better since it would reduce the angle. I still wouldn't want to watch anything on a TV in that spot for more than 30 minute tops though.
post #123 of 1309
Put a picture over a fireplace. Not a tv lol.

I'd the prices in this thread are real ill have to try out a new ZT! After waiting for the reviews off course.
post #124 of 1309
I'll chime in on the fireplace issue. Regardless of the audio setup you'll need at least one cable going to the TV (probably HDMI) and one coming back (power cord). Where will these cables go? It doesn't look like there's much room to run them through the wall on either side of the fireplace. And where will your other equipment (i.e. cable box, AVR, etc.) be located? I suppose the HDMI could be routed through the attic/ceiling to another location but would you have room for or would it even be advisable to run it between the drywall and the fireplace, which is an exterior wall?
post #125 of 1309
Fireplace is just a bad spot for a TV. I think most people do it for atheistic reason vs practicality.
post #126 of 1309
Incidentally, I....

1) Had a TV over a fireplace once. I hated it with the fiery passion of a thousand angry suns. I would never, ever, ever get back together with it again. (Kisses, Taylor. Get over your feud with Tiny and Amy, k?)

2) Have a TV in front of my current fireplace. Someday, we'll fix the fireplace to make it disappear. Today, it's still there, just with a TV in front of it on a piece of Ikea furniture that looks nice. Makes me think of a Mastercard commercial....

10 chiropractor visits for your aching neck: $700

1 piece of Ikea furniture: $99

Having your TV at eye level where it belongs?: Priceless
post #127 of 1309
Chiropractor? One place ill never go lol.
post #128 of 1309
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Chiropractor? One place ill never go lol.
You just have not hurt bad enough yet I said the same 30 years ago since then I make a visit every quarter to keep the disc in my back aligned it works and sure beats being pilled up.
Keeping the screen center at or just above eye level makes for hours of comfortable viewing.
post #129 of 1309
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Originally Posted by oztech View Post

You just have not hurt bad enough yet I said the same 30 years ago since then I make a visit every quarter to keep the disc in my back aligned it works and sure beats being pilled up.
Keeping the screen center at or just above eye level makes for hours of comfortable viewing.
I guess I should enjoy my youth while I still can lol. As for the height. I have my tv at a decent hight. My eyes line up with dead center of the screen while sitting on the couch.
post #130 of 1309
Yes I agree that above fireplace is not optimal but I'm not going to keep a TV in the right corner at an angle like it is now. Additionally I have a very curious 18-month old and I want to keep my equipment up and out of her way as much as possible. The fireplace wall faces East, the South wall is glass french doors and wide sidelights, the North wall has windows placed such that I can't do my setup there, and the West wall is open to the kitchen.

I've spent some time at the seat position and stared up at that box I outlined on wall and while I do slightly tilt my head up, I can sit far enough back that it isn't very pronounced.

The people doing the wiring tell me this will work: I'm using a Powerbridge pass through for power behind TV and other passthrough plates for other wires directly behind TV. There is already a power outlet on top of the mantle where my surge protector and my equipment will sit. It was just a couple inches too shallow for my AVR so I had my dad join some boards together that I'll be staining and will sit on top of the mantle. The front L/R speakers will either sit on the hearth or on the floor to the right and left. The wiring will be done by trenching the drywall, notching the studs, laying the cable in the notches and patching the drywall. The center channel I plan on getting will sit on the mantle directly below the TV and is 9" tall. I made a cardboard box the size of the speaker and put it up there and determined where the bottom edge of the TV will have to rest in order to see from the seating position.

At this point I'm almost 100% sure on going with the 80" for the sheer size of TV in that space. I'll probably move my Kuro to the bedroom and my Panasonic to the 2nd living room or sell it.
post #131 of 1309
I'm in the same situation with kids lol. It's a big reason I wall mounted a tv. She's huge for her age. 14 months and is already 3 FT tall. So my tv is about 3 1/2 feet high with a thick entertainment center in front. So she can't reach the tv at all.
post #132 of 1309
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Originally Posted by esswun View Post

Yes I agree that above fireplace is not optimal
Our unit is above a fireplace, join the club, mine is fine right where it is. When I watch TV, I chill. My couch and chairs will absorb you, at that point the unit is at eye level since my body is tilted wink.gif If the unit was lower, I would have to look down at the TV.
post #133 of 1309
Never join the dark side!
post #134 of 1309
/watching TV in a funny position will give you a stiff neck smile.gif
post #135 of 1309
I think that applies to anything. Not just a TV lol.
post #136 of 1309
It doesn't make sense to me that you show the 65ZT60 at a price of $3700.00 or less and the Panasonic website shows the 65VT60 at $3,599.99. Wouldn't the ZT60 be priced more then $100.00 more then the VT60? Can you explain?
post #137 of 1309
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Originally Posted by oinchats View Post

It doesn't make sense to me that you show the 65ZT60 at a price of $3700.00 or less and the Panasonic website shows the 65VT60 at $3,599.99. Wouldn't the ZT60 be priced more then $100.00 more then the VT60? Can you explain?
You don't understand how a manufacturer's MSRP differs from street price? From what I've seen the MSRP of the 65" ZT60 is going to be about $500 more than the 65" VT60. Street price on the ZT will be less than MSRP. How much less depends on the store.
post #138 of 1309
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Originally Posted by oinchats View Post

It doesn't make sense to me that you show the 65ZT60 at a price of $3700.00 or less and the Panasonic website shows the 65VT60 at $3,599.99. Wouldn't the ZT60 be priced more then $100.00 more then the VT60? Can you explain?

Who are you talking to?

If you're seeing a price of $3,700 for a 65ZT60 then that's obviously a street price that's at a discount from the announced MPRP of $4,099. The $3,599 price for the 65VT60 is full MSRP so you can't compare that to someone's ZT60's non-MSRP price.

As it stands, the 65ZT60's MSRP is going to be $500 higher than the 65VT60, which is closer than i thought they'd be so that's a good thing.
post #139 of 1309
Big difference between retail and street price.......
post #140 of 1309
Very big difference.
post #141 of 1309
Does anyone know what requirements must be satisfied to become a Panasonic authorized seller? I ask because this is when the price wars begin and I believe a TV purchased through an unauthorized seller may render the warranty invalid.
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post #143 of 1309
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Donloz View Post

Here is a right up on the ZT65
http://www.tedpublications.com/news/exclusive-panasonic-65zt60-plasma-tv-preview/

I'm not clear if he has a unit in his possesion or not. I think not -- so it comes across as a bit of a marketing piece. Or am I missing something?
post #144 of 1309
So when can we actually see these things in our homes.
post #145 of 1309
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

I'm not clear if he has a unit in his possesion or not. I think not -- so it comes across as a bit of a marketing piece. Or am I missing something?

From the piece..." (please note that since the TV on hand is a prototype, there is no way for me to test this feature)." So I think he has a prototype to check out.

Even if it falls a bit short of the Kuros, it really sounds like the ZT60 will be a supurb TV. Only wish I could afford one!
post #146 of 1309
For the picture try are suppose to deliver. I think the price is pretty fair.
post #147 of 1309
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

So when can we actually see these things in our homes.
The last I heard the ZT60 is due to hit the streets the end of May.
post #148 of 1309
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Originally Posted by Donloz View Post

Here is a right up on the ZT65
http://www.tedpublications.com/news/exclusive-panasonic-65zt60-plasma-tv-preview/
Wow, someone is finally going on the record to say this is better than Kuro. (Personally, I'll believe it when I see it.) Everyone has been very tentative up to this point, which is understandable considering the TV hasn't even been released yet.
post #149 of 1309
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

Wow, someone is finally going on the record to say this is better than Kuro. (Personally, I'll believe it when I see it.) Everyone has been very tentative up to this point, which is understandable considering the TV hasn't even been released yet.
This has been stated before with other sets. But remains debatable and always will.
post #150 of 1309
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

This has been stated before with other sets. But remains debatable and always will.
Yes, it's been said before which I think is why everyone is so sheepish about saying it again. That a former Pioneer employee would go on the record to say it's better than Kuro, a claim confirmed (off the record) by a former Kuro and present Panasonic engineer, is encouraging. Though, as with previous claims, what makes a TV "better" than a Kuro may be up for interpretation, to say nothing of the obvious bias a current Panasonic employee would have for the product keeping him employed. So we're back where we started--encouraging but unconfirmed.
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