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post #31 of 72
1/29/13 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by VinnyS View Post

THX Tune-Up is a Calibration tool. Now is it the best tool on the market, probably not. As most have mentioned on this thread, there are many other solutions. For some, the THX Tune-Up app is a perfect, quick and simple solution for getting your TV in a better calibrated state.

No, there is a huge difference between tune-up and calibration. There is no such thing as "better calibrated". It's either calibrated or not. There are objective measurements for calibration.
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post #32 of 72
1/29/13 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

Unless I'm mistaken, it seems that the AV adapter for iphone 4 or 4s users is limited to 720p. /facepalm at Apple. I hate planned obsolescence. I'll pass on the app.

THX has tested the iPhone 4 and 4S with the second-gen Apple 30-pin adaptor connected directly to a TV, and they found that the iPhone 4 output 720p, while the 4S output 1080p.

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post #33 of 72
1/29/13 at 5:36pm
Besides, the app is free biggrin.gif
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post #34 of 72
1/29/13 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Besides, the app is free biggrin.gif

Yes, there's that as well! smile.gif This week, anyway; starting next Tuesday, it'll be a whopping $1.99!

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post #35 of 72
1/29/13 at 5:43pm
I pay that $1.99 just for the moo sound and the deep note sound alone!
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post #36 of 72
1/29/13 at 6:16pm
Just bought tonight and ran through my TV settings. not bad! I already had the iPad HDMI adapter so was able to run through the 5.1 audio settings as well. Great mobile application at a great price (free!) Thanks Scott!
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post #37 of 72
1/29/13 at 7:14pm
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Just bought tonight and ran through my TV settings. not bad! I already had the iPad HDMI adapter so was able to run through the 5.1 audio settings as well. Great mobile application at a great price (free!) Thanks Scott!

You're most welcome! I'm especially glad to hear from those who give it a try.

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post #38 of 72
1/29/13 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by Scott Wilkinson View Post

You're most welcome! I'm especially glad to hear from those who give it a try.
Congratulations on your new role here at AVS as well Scott, I've enjoyed your Home Theater Geeks show on Leo's network, in fact just watched your November episode on TV calibration today! Good luck!
Dave
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post #39 of 72
1/29/13 at 7:46pm
Agreed about Apple TV working...he stated it would only play 2.0 audio but ATV has HDMI and 3rd gen is 1080p so, should work fine?
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post #40 of 72
1/29/13 at 7:47pm
I just learned about this app. I am currently downloading on my iPhone 4s, and I will install it on my wife iPad 4. I'll test it tomorrow when everyone is gone biggrin.gif
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post #41 of 72
1/29/13 at 8:15pm
Just tried via my iPhone 5 w/ my 3rd generation AppleTV to see what this could do on my Sharp LC-46SE941UG. I haven't messed with the TV settings since I first got it 3+ years ago so thought it would be interesting to try this out. But the THX apps picture adjustments would not show the photo/video to run the tests via AirPlay. I kept getting an error message: "This content requires HDCP for playback. Either your HDMI cable isn't properly connected, or your HDMI connection doesn't support HDCP. Please reconnect the HDMI cable from your AppleTV to your HDTV and try again." I was able to AirPlay the intro video/audio and the THX trailers on the app fine with no problem. So not sure if its the app or something with trying it via AirPlay... Will possibly mess around with it later.
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post #42 of 72
1/29/13 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by rmaddog View Post

Just tried via my iPhone 5 w/ my 3rd generation AppleTV to see what this could do on my Sharp LC-46SE941UG. I haven't messed with the TV settings since I first got it 3+ years ago so thought it would be interesting to try this out. But the THX apps picture adjustments would not show the photo/video to run the tests via AirPlay. I kept getting an error message: "This content requires HDCP for playback. Either your HDMI cable isn't properly connected, or your HDMI connection doesn't support HDCP. Please reconnect the HDMI cable from your AppleTV to your HDTV and try again." I was able to AirPlay the intro video/audio and the THX trailers on the app fine with no problem. So not sure if its the app or something with trying it via AirPlay... Will possibly mess around with it later.
I hade the same issue....you have to enable "AirPlay Mirroring". Just do a quick search, it's really simple.

Really like this app, it's a cool idea.
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post #43 of 72
1/29/13 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by Daniel Chaves View Post

As much as I would love to see an Android app it is unlikely, the only thing Apple has an advantage of over Android is its proprietary monopoly non-open source design meaning that you have one set standard and nothing else and well in this case with this app, its the Screens used on Apple products mentioned that are tuned from the factory to match Rec709 specs which makes it great for color matching and color calibration, test patterns over HDMI well yeah Androids could do that but I think color calibration would be a bigger factor, as for Android devices the screens used is not a set standard and you will be hard pressed to find an Android product using a screen that is Rec709 calibrated, for those who say well my S3 is, well your dead wrong, I have the S3 and love it but it is no where near color corrected since it does not have as many blue pixels as there is red and green so color calibration is out of the question but anything you can send to the screen would be possible in that situation but I still dont think we will see an android version for just that purpose.

Doesn't the iphone 4 and ipad 2 screen only have 60% of the rec709 color gamut? Read it on some display site cant remember where.
Edited by pokekevin - 1/29/13 at 9:01pm
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post #44 of 72
1/29/13 at 9:11pm
So you guys are saying this app is pretty accurate for color? It is not for me. Tint, brightness and contrast all work great but the color test pattern is way off. It had me raise my color almost 20 notches before the red square matched the background. The color looked horrible at this setting, almost neon. This made me pull out my Spears & Munsil BD because I couldn't believe I could have screwed up this bad when I originally used the disc. . The S&M disc, of course, had me lowering the color setting back to where I had it. So, what's up, why is the THX app so different when it comes to the color test pattern? Could it be because I have a DLP TV? Like I said, all the other patterns work great, matched my S&M disc settings. I was using AirPlay to my AppleTV to test the app.

Don't understand why I'm seeing such a drastic difference with just the color test pattern but, it is not even close to being right on my TV. I thought something was off when I first selected it because the red square looked more crimson on my TV even though it looks red on my iPad. But when ever I display color bars from the Spears & Munsil disc or DVE BD, the reds look correct.
Edited by rolltide1017 - 1/29/13 at 9:17pm
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post #45 of 72
1/29/13 at 9:40pm
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Originally Posted by ElectronicTonic View Post

I hade the same issue....you have to enable "AirPlay Mirroring". Just do a quick search, it's really simple.

Really like this app, it's a cool idea.

Ahhh... I remember seeing that feature once but forgot I could use it. Very handy and solved my problem. Much appreciated.

So went though the video settings and only needed (well... per the apps recommendation) a minor adjustment here from what I was at currently. Because the adjustments were so minor, I can't say I can see a difference but this is a quick tool to see if your are in the ballpark and you can get some decent adjustments if your picture is way off.
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post #46 of 72
1/30/13 at 6:14am
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Originally Posted by VinnyS View Post

You can check on-line but the Apple cable name brand and no-name brand are both around that price unfortunately.

That's due to the Apple licensing. They clamped down on the pricing when they went to the new ipods and video cables.
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post #47 of 72
1/30/13 at 6:54am
I downloaded it last night to my iPad 3 and used it on my Epson 8350 projector which is set up with the WOW. disc (and which just received a new bulb the other night). The tests on the THX app gave me the same settings - other than saturation - as the WOW disc. The app wants the saturation too high, but that might be because I wasn't able to get the iPad close enough to the screen to completely fill the camera as instructed. The app works exactly as advertised, the instructions are very easy to follow, and the trailers are fun to see. It's certainly no substitute for a calibration disc or pro calibration, but it's a nice tool to have on the iPad for a quick check-out of friends' displays, etc., ...especially for the price smile.gif

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
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post #48 of 72
1/30/13 at 10:09am
So I'm the only one having issues with the color test being way off when compared to Spears & Munsil or DVE on my display? My TV is a 5 year old Samsung DLP, I wonder if that is the reason for the difference.

EDIT: I just remembered that my TV is RGB based (at least that is what I've read). Wonder if that could be part of the issue.
Edited by rolltide1017 - 1/30/13 at 10:23am
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post #49 of 72
1/30/13 at 10:13am
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So I'm the only one having issues with the color test being way off when compared to Spears & Munsil or DVE on my display? My TV is a 5 year old Samsung DLP, I wonder if that is the reason for the difference.

I've asked THX to take a look at this thread and comment on this issue; I hope they do.

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post #50 of 72
1/30/13 at 10:30am
You're not the only one. I use iPad 2/3/4 and iPod Touch 4 and they all yield different results especially in the colour settings.
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post #51 of 72
1/30/13 at 12:52pm
I'm about to test it with a 3rd gen iPad + LG plasma with HDMI and then via AppleTv / Airplay. Let's see if that affects the color or anything else.
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post #52 of 72
1/30/13 at 1:16pm
So, whats the deal with this thing. Does it actually work?
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post #53 of 72
1/30/13 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

You're not the only one. I use iPad 2/3/4 and iPod Touch 4 and they all yield different results especially in the colour settings.

Do you mean you tried it with all four devices, and each one yielded different color results from the others?

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post #54 of 72
1/30/13 at 2:01pm
That is correct. They don't vary too much but a couple of notches here and there in colour settings. Heck, it even thinks that my just-calibrated colour setting to be to low between 2 to 5 notches.
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post #55 of 72
1/30/13 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by alfa147x View Post

I'm about to test it with a 3rd gen iPad + LG plasma with HDMI and then via AppleTv / Airplay. Let's see if that affects the color or anything else.

No difference. I don't think using iOS devices for color would be a good idea since the camera in each device is different. Unless they're accounting for that in the backend.
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post #56 of 72
1/30/13 at 2:33pm
I'm sure THX use an offset data for the general camera used on the iDevices. However, since the cameras are not actually calibrated to the software perfectly PLUS the camera is using auto-white-balance therefore there is no way to get colour reading accurately.

At least if the camera can be fixed to "daylight" setting (ie 5500K approx), the reading will be more accurate.
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post #57 of 72
1/30/13 at 4:16pm
Hmm, I've got a Denon 4520CI, it would be cool if via AirPlay I could play the extra audio clips.
Also, are the THX trailers LFE bandwidth limited at all compared to the Blu-ray Disc version?
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post #58 of 72
1/30/13 at 4:52pm
I didn't measure it but from what I hear, there is no difference between the one on the app vs the one on the THX Calibrator Disc.
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post #59 of 72
1/30/13 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post

So you guys are saying this app is pretty accurate for color? It is not for me. Tint, brightness and contrast all work great but the color test pattern is way off. It had me raise my color almost 20 notches before the red square matched the background. The color looked horrible at this setting, almost neon. This made me pull out my Spears & Munsil BD because I couldn't believe I could have screwed up this bad when I originally used the disc. . The S&M disc, of course, had me lowering the color setting back to where I had it. So, what's up, why is the THX app so different when it comes to the color test pattern? Could it be because I have a DLP TV? Like I said, all the other patterns work great, matched my S&M disc settings. I was using AirPlay to my AppleTV to test the app.

Don't understand why I'm seeing such a drastic difference with just the color test pattern but, it is not even close to being right on my TV. I thought something was off when I first selected it because the red square looked more crimson on my TV even though it looks red on my iPad. But when ever I display color bars from the Spears & Munsil disc or DVE BD, the reds look correct.

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Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post

So I'm the only one having issues with the color test being way off when compared to Spears & Munsil or DVE on my display? My TV is a 5 year old Samsung DLP, I wonder if that is the reason for the difference.

EDIT: I just remembered that my TV is RGB based (at least that is what I've read). Wonder if that could be part of the issue.

Thank you for downloading THX tune-up. The TV’s color temperature affects the efficiency of the Color Filter on our Samsung DLP. The adjustment using the THX tune-up Color Filter is reasonably close to expected results with a Warm2 color temperature on our TV, though it varies when the TV is too blue. This is one of the reasons we included real life photos in the app. Looking at the hot air balloon, it which should appear natural without being washed out and certainly not neon. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

You're not the only one. I use iPad 2/3/4 and iPod Touch 4 and they all yield different results especially in the colour settings.

Thank you for trying THX tune-up and supporting THX. Like Scott and others have said, THX tune-up is a tool for the average consumer to quickly adjust his TV. Although small variations are expected, THX hopes tune-up will help provide black detail and calm down those oversaturated colors. The app and built-in Color Filter are not meant to substitute expert calibrators using test equipment. Nothing beats a properly calibrated TV!
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post #60 of 72
1/30/13 at 6:36pm
So I downloaded the app and hook it up to my AppleTV and tested out on my Epson 5020. I picked thx mode on my pj, and sure enough the settings were spot on. smile.gif. I'll play around with other color mode settings to see what kind of results it will yield
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