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post #31 of 74
1/30/13 at 3:08am
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And now PANASONIC BOOTH and their hybrid models :







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post #32 of 74
1/30/13 at 4:05am
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VIVITEK will also bring out 2 others home theater projectors this year, the first one is the H5088, the successor o the H5085 :

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/vivitek-h5088-dlp-full-ready-fin-2013-t36900.html

but the company will also replace the H9080FD with a new high end LED projector in the 10000 euros range.

Great report Kraine. Were Vivitek showing the new LED model? Any idea of the lumens?
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post #33 of 74
1/30/13 at 6:50am
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No it wasn't at the show, the VIVITEK representative only told about me about this new model.
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post #34 of 74
1/30/13 at 7:36am
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Amsterdam has a famous red light district. Now they have added a laser light district. Go figure.

lol this is great!
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post #35 of 74
1/30/13 at 7:43am
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The BenQ booth, with the W1500 in a dedicated room :














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post #36 of 74
1/30/13 at 8:33am
No light leakage, it seems )
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post #37 of 74
1/30/13 at 8:42am
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Nope smile.gif
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post #38 of 74
1/30/13 at 8:59am
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Bu the end of the end year we will see a native 4K competition between SONY and JVC (SONY as only 2 years advance wink.gif).

Excited to hear news about a native 4k JVC coming.

Mike
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post #39 of 74
1/30/13 at 9:03am
The next few years look to be very exciting indeed!
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post #40 of 74
1/30/13 at 9:09am
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Excited to hear news about a native 4k JVC coming.

Mike

Ha, at least one of my readers has noticed this particular point smile.gif
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post #41 of 74
1/30/13 at 9:14am
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Ha, at least one of my readers has noticed this particular point smile.gif
I noticed it earlier, hopefully its in the under $10,000 price range
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post #42 of 74
1/30/13 at 9:35am
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And now the SONY Booth and the new lcd laser projector (wich is definitly not a home cinema projector) :






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post #43 of 74
1/30/13 at 9:37am
I think we all noticed it but we sort of new it anyway. The JVC fan boys think e shift upscaled 2K to 4K is as good as a native 4K panel fed 2K to 4K. JVC platforms have about a two model year life with minor changes the 2nd year.

We expected a 4K in and native out JVC though I think next year there will also be eshift models with the top of the line being a native panel. The lens will be better on the 4K out as well.

However, next year there still will be no consumer 4K sources so to speak other than server based and I doubt JVC willforay into that market.

Computer abd camera fed will be an option, Sony will have a server based solution which could be used on any HDMI in 4K display and there will be the Red Redray server at $1450 asnd hopefully internet non straming 4K source feeds into a large built in memorary and SD card and USB drive material. I am sure the JVC 4K machine will be killer.
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post #44 of 74
1/30/13 at 9:40am
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We expected a 4K in and native out JVC though I think next year there will also be eshift models with the top of the line being a native panel. The lens will be better on the 4K out as well.
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And I think the same Mark wink.gif
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post #45 of 74
1/30/13 at 9:52am
Future JVC TOP will be 4K lampless???
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post #46 of 74
1/30/13 at 10:17am
No. I don't think so. It would make the 4K product too expensive fr the market class that JVC addresses.
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post #47 of 74
1/30/13 at 11:48am
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Ha, at least one of my readers has noticed this particular point smile.gif

Yeah, I was surprised your post didn't have a ton of responses. I'm just afraid it will be like Mark says and the native 4k will only be in the high end model and all the others will just be doing eshift-3. frown.gif

Mike
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post #48 of 74
1/30/13 at 2:09pm
Kraine thank you for your pictures and report.
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lhi larryep, according panasonic they are available right now in Europe for 5000 euros but don't forget to had the box for all the connections (wich isn't include of course). The R serie aren't home theater projectors, Panasonic will bring a dedicated version to the market maybe next year and for a lower price.

did panasonic hint towards a ae10000 home theater projector? the predocessor to the ae8000 with solid shine tec WOWWW

when they say next year do they really mean cedia 2013?

this might be what i have been waiting far. but the 470 model sounds good now.

my eyes are welling up with joyful tears.biggrin.gif
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post #49 of 74
1/30/13 at 10:44pm
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More IFA then CEDIA, PANASONIC is used to announce their new home theater projectors in Berlin.
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post #50 of 74
1/30/13 at 11:01pm
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Yeah, I was surprised your post didn't have a ton of responses. I'm just afraid it will be like Mark says and the native 4k will only be in the high end model and all the others will just be doing eshift-3. frown.gif

Mike

If the e-shift models have 4k inputs.....it will be interesting to compare the end result with a native 4k panel both being fed 4k native material.

Nothing new from BenQ?.....no replacement for the W7000+ ?
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post #51 of 74
1/30/13 at 11:27pm
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Only the W1500 and W1400 annoucement.
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post #52 of 74
1/30/13 at 11:30pm
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OPTOMA BOOTH, sorry I wasn't allowed to take pics from the HD91 show room :





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post #53 of 74
1/31/13 at 1:46am
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Only the W1500 and W1400 annoucement.

Thanks kraine.........any rumors of a W7000+ replacement?
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post #54 of 74
1/31/13 at 2:23am
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Nope sorry.
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post #55 of 74
1/31/13 at 2:40am
Impressions about Benq LW61ST+ hybrid????
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post #56 of 74
1/31/13 at 2:41am
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It's not my domain, those are business projectors nothing to do with home theater.
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post #57 of 74
1/31/13 at 2:52am
Thanks, it was just to have an idea how this technology performs on different brands...so i don't ask you about impressions of Sony LASER VPR, right??biggrin.gif
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post #58 of 74
1/31/13 at 3:10am
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Exactly, both Sony and BenQ are much too bright for a home theater use and they aren't build for this kind of purpose.
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post #59 of 74
1/31/13 at 3:12am
Neither Panasonic Hybrid??? Last question i swear!
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post #60 of 74
1/31/13 at 3:40am
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No problem, I'm here to answer smile.gif

The PANASONIC Hybrids are more suitable to a home theater use, but..... you need the external connexion box, the picture looks also a little bit dim for me and too soft (softer than the Hybrid from Mitsubishi for example).
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