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Vizio E500i-A1 Calibration Question

post #1 of 14
1/30/13 at 8:14am
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Before anyone starts bashing about go search this and that, i have. Ive been on this site for 2 weeks looking up information.

So to my questions which is real simple. Whats in your opinion the BEST beginners calibration blu-ray disk for calibrating a LED back-lit HDTV? Ive heard of avia, dve, and wow, but i want to know which will produce the best results. I AM NOT paying for a professional which i know is the BEST choice by far as i don't have the means to do that at the moment. A little background on myself so one of you professionals can determine which disk will work best for me. I'm a computer/network tech with a BS degree in Computer Engineering and Network Management. I have a CompTIA cert in Security+ and Network+ and have been repairing PC's for over 10 years. Ive also done custom stereo installs for about 12 years. So I'm familiar with certain things. But when it comes to calibrating TVs I'm limited in what i know. So if one of you professional out there can guide me to which blu-ray will be best for me to calibrate my TV via my ps3 connected thru a Yamaha RX-V473, i will be grateful.
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post #2 of 14
1/30/13 at 8:23am
Check out this website...I'm not a pro by any means, but I have used the DVE disc in the past and it was easy. They gave the DVE disc very high marks: http://home-theater-calibration-review.toptenreviews.com/
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post #3 of 14
1/30/13 at 8:24am
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thanks will do.
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post #4 of 14
1/30/13 at 8:44am
The AVS HD709 disk is free and is a fairly comprehensive calibration disk to accurately set the basics (brightness, contrast, aspect, sharpness, and color). You won't be calibrating your tv (for that you need meters and specialized software) but you can get some of the basics pretty close. I don't know how accurately the PS3 renders color so that may be a limiting factor. For example, the Panasonic BDT-210 blu-ray player had perfect colorspace output when tested at 4:2:2, 4:4:4, and RGB video. Make sure that all of the enhancements are disabled on the tv as well as the PS3 because you want the disk's (which ever one you use) video signal to be as pristine as possible.
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post #5 of 14
1/30/13 at 8:52am
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thanks for the info. i will turn all that off. so far im thinking the wow blu-ray will be the best fit. seems the dve is far more advanced and will need the equipment to use it. ill look into the avs disk.
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post #6 of 14
1/30/13 at 12:09pm
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thanks for the info. i will turn all that off. so far im thinking the wow blu-ray will be the best fit. seems the dve is far more advanced and will need the equipment to use it. ill look into the avs disk.

Which ever disk you use, stick with it. Don't try to check your settings with another disk. They might not match exactly and you'll go crazy trying to figure out which one is correct. They should be very close, but.......

Also, find a well made blu-ray movie and use that as an eye-ball check. The bottom line is that what looks good to you is all that matters.
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post #7 of 14
1/30/13 at 12:14pm
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Which ever disk you use, stick with it. Don't try to check your settings with another disk. They might not match exactly and you'll go crazy trying to figure out which one is correct. They should be very close, but.......

Also, find a well made blu-ray movie and use that as an eye-ball check. The bottom line is that what looks good to you is all that matters.

Thanks Otto. Ive downloaded the AVSHD790 AVCHD.exe file. i dont have a blu-ray burner so this will have to work for now. im going to try this and see how it looks.
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post #8 of 14
1/30/13 at 2:03pm
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Thanks Otto. Ive downloaded the AVSHD790 AVCHD.exe file. i dont have a blu-ray burner so this will have to work for now. im going to try this and see how it looks.

If I remember correctly, the disk can be burned to a DVD but it has to be played back on a blu-ray player.
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post #9 of 14
1/30/13 at 6:26pm
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Got it burned and working. Now i need a blue filter and I'm set.
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post #10 of 14
1/30/13 at 7:08pm
Do some research on the type of blue filter to get because it can't be just any blue filter.
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post #11 of 14
1/31/13 at 5:24am
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Do some research on the type of blue filter to get because it can't be just any blue filter.

will do. I used the AVSHD790 disk last night and set my tv to custom with the exception of the Color Enhancement set to rich color, Adaptive Luma set to Extended, and film mode set to auto. it worked wonders compared to what i was seeing. but i think once i get a color filter it will be better. i wish the tv had the blue mode on it but it doesnt. This is what i came out with on my settings:

Picture Mode - Custom
Backlight - 80
Brightness - 42
Contrast - 42
Color - 48 (this is without a blue filter)
Tint - 0 (this is without a blue filter)
Sharpness - 9

Color Temperature - Custom
Red Gain - 42
Green Gain - 51
Blue Gain - 35
Red Offset - 50
Green Offset - 50
Blue Offset - 50

Advance Picture
Noise Reduction - Off
MPEG NR - Off
Color Enhancement - Rich Color
Adaptive Luma - Extend
Film Mode - Auto
Smart Dimming - Off
Ambient Light Sensor - Off

Noise Reduction is off due to me watching the whole episode of HD Nation on the disk and they recommended turning it off because its really no use after you make the changes they advise. From what i have posted besides the color and tint do you recommend anything Otto?
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post #12 of 14
1/31/13 at 5:32am
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Otto ive also ready this thread and it seems as a lot of forum uses are not in agreeance on what filters to use. Would it be better to get just a blue filter or a filter with Deep Blue Tricolor #47B, Deep Red Tricolor #29, Deep Green Tricolor #61?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/808653/where-to-get-blue-filter
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post #13 of 14
1/31/13 at 8:34am
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Otto ive also ready this thread and it seems as a lot of forum uses are not in agreeance on what filters to use. Would it be better to get just a blue filter or a filter with Deep Blue Tricolor #47B, Deep Red Tricolor #29, Deep Green Tricolor #61?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/808653/where-to-get-blue-filter

That I can't help you with because my tv (LG) came with a very extensive set of calibration options accessible to the user (no need to go into the SM) and one of the "features" was built-in Red, Blue, and Green filters. You can ask in the Display Calibration forum for a consensus on the proper filter to use. Posting your settings is of little use because every tv is different due to tolerance issues so what looks good on yours may not, probably not, look good on another exact same model. Posting graphs from a metered/software calibration is useful to some because they can actually see how your panel performed and can make suggestions. You would be best to find a forum that is specific to your tv and ask there. Keep in mind that you are just making adjustments, and not calibrating with meters and software, so your settings could be way off from a set that has been calibrated to rec.709 standards. If you can't pay for a professional calibration or want to learn and DIY, then make changes until it looks good to you because that will be the best you can do.
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post #14 of 14
1/31/13 at 8:39am
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That I can't help you with because my tv (LG) came with a very extensive set of calibration options accessible to the user (no need to go into the SM) and one of the "features" was built-in Red, Blue, and Green filters. You can ask in the Display Calibration forum for a consensus on the proper filter to use. Posting your settings is of little use because every tv is different due to tolerance issues so what looks good on yours may not, probably not, look good on another exact same model. Posting graphs from a metered/software calibration is useful to some because they can actually see how your panel performed and can make suggestions. You would be best to find a forum that is specific to your tv and ask there. Keep in mind that you are just making adjustments, and not calibrating with meters and software, so your settings could be way off from a set that has been calibrated to rec.709 standards. If you can't pay for a professional calibration or want to learn and DIY, then make changes until it looks good to you because that will be the best you can do.

Thanks for the info. Ill look further into the blue filter. I appreciate all the advise.
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