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Epson 6020: My 1st Projector Eh!

post #1 of 17
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A couple of weeks ago I found a Grandview 120” wall mount BNIB for $400 on my local Kijij/Craigslist site. Having just moved from condo to a new house and not enjoying what I’d have to spend for a top end 65” Panasonic I thought I try something new. Things spiraled out of control until last night when my wife picked up our new Epson 6020 on the way home.

I have got to say this thing was shocking coming out of the box. As this is my first projector and having not really seen one up close before I was surprised at the size. That isn't a bad thing but coming from portable work projectors this thing is a monster. It was double boxed looked well supported. Inside was the extra bulb, a mount, 2 pairs of glasses, a remote and the back cover. I didn't even know there was a back cover and with it on this thing’s got kind of Star Trek TNG vibe to it. The mount that comes with it is pretty impressive to. I had bought a Monoprice mount when I wasn't sure which projector I was going to get and when you put the two beside each other it’s pretty funny. I know they both do the same job but the Epson one is just pretty to look at. One thing that was annoying as it comes with no mounting hardware. Even a $20 wall mount from Monoprice comes with hardware.

Other projectors I considered include the Panasonic 8000, JVC X35, and the Sony HW50.I went with the Epson over the Panasonic because of the black levels and having dealt with Panasonic's warranty process before I just can't be bothered. I thought the JVC looked amazing but considering I'm setting this up in a media/family room I think the Epson is the better choice. I wish I could have spent some time with a HW50 but there are none around and again Epson's 3 year replacement warranty on the 6020 is just amazing from what I can tell. I originally looking at the 5020 but considering the 6020 comes with an extra year of warranty, extra bulb and that mount it wasn't much of a stretch to get the 6020.

One thing I’ve taken away from this whole experience is how picky the internet and online reviews can be. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing because someone has to be the winner but all of those projectors are great and the differences between them aren’t that big. If you were to buy any of those projectors based on your requirements you’re going to be a happy camper.

I spent some time last night playing video games and the input lag isn't much of an issue in my opinion. I played COD and some other FPS and what little lag I notice I'm sure I'll compensate for after a few weeks. I didn’t mess with any setting so maybe switching to game mode will fix whatever I did notice. Playing the games made me feel a little dizzy at first sitting 14' away but I guess I'll get use to that? I watched some Brave, Terminator Salvation, True Grit, and Planet Earth to test it out. Considering the 120" screen is leaning against a wall and the Epson is on the coffee table I was hugely impressed with how it looked. I really can't get over how big this picture is and how good it looks. I'm coming from a 55" Samsung back-lit 9 Series so I guess that explains a bit. Although the picture on the Samsung is no slouch there is no replacement for displacement.

I’m going to get this thing mounted this week but I need some input on projector placement. I’ve included everything over in the General Home Theater & Media/Game Rooms here. Any input is appreciated. Here are some pictures because I know I enjoy other peoples picture more than review shots or manufacture photos.














And just for the hell of it here is the new room.


Edited by kingpin748 - 1/30/13 at 12:10pm
post #2 of 17
Nice. What made you choose the 6020 over the 5020 when you already had the mount? The color?
post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by Kadath View Post

Nice. What made you choose the 6020 over the 5020 when you already had the mount? The color?

Going to the 6020 from the 5020 was and extra $600 for me. $300-$400 for one of the those bulbs, extra year of replacement warranty, anamorphic lens support, Star Trek back cover... seemed reasonable.

But yeah, mostly just for the color.
post #4 of 17
Grats, hope you and the family enjoy!
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
Well the screen is up. I spent last night taking down the Samsung and putting up the Grandview. Moving the component rack was a pain in the ass. I'm grabbing the hardware to mount the projector this afternoon and will be putting it up tonight. Hopefully I get some suggestions before then.


I've reconsidered mounting above my seating position as I can't hear the projector when there is media playing. I'm thinking I'll mount it about 12' back which is about as close as I can go. Closer is better right? The room allows me to control the light but with kids running around having a blacked out theater isn't an option 70% of the time. Is there a draw back to mounting it close. The next joist back is at 15' which is an option also.




post #6 of 17
Looks great! I wish I had seen this thread before posting my own, I'm in an almost identical situation, but with new construction trying to plan ahead.

We are also going from a 55" Samsung to a projector of some sort, looking at some of the same ones you have listed above. Our room is roughly 9' tall and has an extra 5' of width and plenty of room to go backwards, but seeing how the 120" screen gives just the right amount of space for a center channel speaker, I'm not sure I should even be considering the 135" screen anymore.

We also have planned for the projector to be almost directly overhead at 14' back. Is the noise that bad? Are you running in eco mode or the regular brightness levels?

Anyway, congrats! Are you going to paint the room darker? We get the same paint color as the rest of the house to begin with, but I'd like to darken that room's walls and ceiling and still leave some non-directed ambient light for, as you say, the kids running around.
post #7 of 17
Closer/further.... maybe, A little discussion from a couple of days ago regarding zoom. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1454483/does-max-zoom-make-a-difference-in-pq I wouldn't sweat it, as long as your in the range of the pj, put it where you like/need it. 3' shouldn't be much of a noticeable difference.

@asummerlin
The 6020 noise lvl in eco mode is pretty low, Audible Noise: 32.0 dB. Eco-Mode: 22.0 dB. In eco mode, (which is plenty bright), my 6010 is quieter than my Dish DVR fan. 4' above my head can only be heard when there is no audio in the room, and even then you just slightly hear it. And that is with high altitude mode on.
Edited by jnabq - 1/31/13 at 9:18pm
post #8 of 17
@jnabq High Altitude mode?

Is that something that needs to be considered? I'll be placing mine in Denver, and when we moved there the first time, my plasma from Georgia had a terrible buzzing from the power supply, depending on the brightness of the screen. Our LCDs haven't had that, but do we need to factor that in for the front projector?
post #9 of 17
Depends on where you reside, due to the air density. In the 6010 manual it says, "If you’ll be using the projector at an altitude above 4921 feet (1500 meters), turn on High Altitude Mode so the fan can properly cool the projector at the high altitude air pressure. See page 51 for details.

Pg 51
High Altitude Mode
Adjusts the speed of the fan so it can properly cool the projector at higher altitudes. Turn this setting on if you are using the projector at an altitude of 4921 feet (1500 meters) or higher. Note: The maximum operating altitude is 7500 feet (2286 meters)
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
According to the internet Denver is at 5280' so technically that would put you into high altitude mode. I'd try it out and see how it sounds. If it's annoying you could probably get away without using it but you probably shouldn't listen to people on the internet and especially those on a AV forum with less than a dozen posts.

Projector is up!





post #11 of 17
Kingpin,
It looks like your projector is mounted closer than 6 inches to your ceiling? What did you do to the mounting pole to accomodate? Thanks.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by mhaneef View Post

Kingpin,
It looks like your projector is mounted closer than 6 inches to your ceiling? What did you do to the mounting pole to accomodate? Thanks.

I just didn't use it as I didn't want it hanging down any farther than it had to. The mount that comes with the 6020 allows you skip the pole and top bracket and bolt directly into the ceiling. You can see the holes in the base the pole screws into. It worked out better for me since the bolt holes were about 2" apart and with the joist being 2.5" I was able to just bolt directly into the joist.

Does it matter that I didn't? Being new to this I could have missed something but with the lens shift on this thing I was well within the limits of what it could do.
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by kingpin748 View Post

I just didn't use it as I didn't want it hanging down any farther than it had to. The mount that comes with the 6020 allows you skip the pole and top bracket and bolt directly into the ceiling. You can see the holes in the base the pole screws into. It worked out better for me since the bolt holes were about 2" apart and with the joist being 2.5" I was able to just bolt directly into the joist.

Does it matter that I didn't? Being new to this I could have missed something but with the lens shift on this thing I was well within the limits of what it could do.

No requirement to use an extension. Nice looking install. GJ
post #14 of 17
Thanks for chiming in jnabq! My 6020 arrives this Friday (also my first projector)- hope you don't mind if I solicit your advice from time to time. I had read somewhere that the 6020 lens had to be centered at the top of the screen for a ceiling mount ( and had been sweating it with a less-than- eight foot ceiling height). So that is really not needed with the Chief mount? Thanks in advance.
post #15 of 17
This pj has ALOT of lens shift available for placement. If your within a few inches of the top of the screen, you'll be fine. You could almost mount this in your attic and still get enough lens shift to get your image onto your screen. smile.gif
post #16 of 17
Resting easier now-thanks again!
post #17 of 17
Great thread and nice work. Agreed on the noise level, our 6020 is extremely quiet in Eco mode. Even when the fan amps up for 3D programming, it is not a problem. And our 6020 is mounted just behind us by about 18".

On mounting options, just fyi in case it helps someone. we needed a little bit of drop off the ceiling for an optimum mount, but not as much of a drop as the 6020's included mounting pole would have given us. I just raced over to Home Depot with the Epson pole, ran to plumbing, and quickly found a 2.5 inch pipe of the exact same diameter that was threaded on both ends. After installation, about an inch and a half of the shorter pipe was "exposed" (you couldn't really see it because the projector blocks it from view, but I knew it was there), so I just cut a piece of black velcro tape to wrap around it, and boom it was perfect.

Only mention that because for some of you, having that additional flexibility might be useful, and it was super easy to do.

I also wondered about asking whether they could just cut down the Epson pole and re-thread the cut end for me at Home Depot, but since I stumbled on the right sized pipe so quickly, I just ran with that. Both options may work for you.

Good luck.
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