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Dear AVSforum,

I'm moving into a new apartment. It's large by NYC standards, with the living room connected to an open kitchen and dining space, and much bigger than my tiny studio, but still, it's a NYC apartment and not huge. For the first time I'm building a "real" home audio setup.

About a week ago, I noticed Definitive Technology 350 speakers on sale at Newegg, which launched some rapid home audio research. I quickly found that all the good advice I could find on just about anything was here, and pretty soon was doing all my product research on Google using the "site:avsforum.com" flag. I ended up ordering the following from various places, which I think maximizes both my space constraints and my budget for now:

2 x Definitive Studio 450s (why not go up to 450s for a little more)
1 x Definitive ProCenter 2000 (paid full retail; apparently center matters, this matches the 450s and fits under my TV)
2 x Velodyne VX-11 (compact, front-firing, on sale 2 for $229, will probably craigslist second one)

So that's my 3.1 (3.2?) setup to start. I can always add surrounds later if I feel the need, but given the small space I'm more concerned with quality and good front speakers in my budget.

Now I'm looking for a receiver. Best Buy had a clearance Marantz 1602 for real cheap at one of my local stores, but at checkout it said it was no longer available. I noticed some of the other closeout items were ridiculously cheap, and I hastily ordered a Denon 3312CI for $549 before it disappeared.

But I'm having buyer's remorse. I would've loved the 1602 for $300, but that's not an option anymore. Spending $550 for the 3312CI seems like overkill, even just a 1403 at retail is $400 anyway, and at BB I can do the whole 0% financing thing. I'm not in a hurry, I can wait a few weeks since my TV and cabinet won't be in until then. And everything I've read praises the 3312, but it also seems geared toward people who have much larger setups than I will...

Is there any reason I shouldn't use a massive 3312? Do I actually gain a lot going up from it? Would I be better off waiting to find something good enough for $2-300?
post #2 of 6
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(Note: I want to avoid refurbs if possible. I don't trust refurbs, especially given things I read while researching here.)
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Originally Posted by shelbystripes View Post

Dear AVSforum,

I'm moving into a new apartment. It's large by NYC standards, with the living room connected to an open kitchen and dining space, and much bigger than my tiny studio, but still, it's a NYC apartment and not huge. For the first time I'm building a "real" home audio setup.

About a week ago, I noticed Definitive Technology 350 speakers on sale at Newegg, which launched some rapid home audio research. I quickly found that all the good advice I could find on just about anything was here, and pretty soon was doing all my product research on Google using the "site:avsforum.com" flag. I ended up ordering the following from various places, which I think maximizes both my space constraints and my budget for now:

2 x Definitive Studio 450s (why not go up to 450s for a little more)
1 x Definitive ProCenter 2000 (paid full retail; apparently center matters, this matches the 450s and fits under my TV)
2 x Velodyne VX-11 (compact, front-firing, on sale 2 for $229, will probably craigslist second one)

So that's my 3.1 (3.2?) setup to start. I can always add surrounds later if I feel the need, but given the small space I'm more concerned with quality and good front speakers in my budget.

Now I'm looking for a receiver. Best Buy had a clearance Marantz 1602 for real cheap at one of my local stores, but at checkout it said it was no longer available. I noticed some of the other closeout items were ridiculously cheap, and I hastily ordered a Denon 3312CI for $549 before it disappeared.

But I'm having buyer's remorse. I would've loved the 1602 for $300, but that's not an option anymore. Spending $550 for the 3312CI seems like overkill, even just a 1403 at retail is $400 anyway, and at BB I can do the whole 0% financing thing. I'm not in a hurry, I can wait a few weeks since my TV and cabinet won't be in until then. And everything I've read praises the 3312, but it also seems geared toward people who have much larger setups than I will...

Is there any reason I shouldn't use a massive 3312? Do I actually gain a lot going up from it? Would I be better off waiting to find something good enough for $2-300?

Depends. It would work for now. But if you aren't going to spend at least 1k on speakers in the future, the 3312 is overkill imo.
post #4 of 6
The only reason to return it would be if the ~$200 you save would be worth it to you. The volume difference between it and the other models will be minimal in real life and you have loads of extra options for the future that you wouldn't get in a xx13 model at the $2 - $300 price point.

I went so far as to have my brother purchase a 3312 on clearance from Best Buy and ship it to me.
post #5 of 6
Regardless of the AVR you end up with, keep the 2nd sub as they are tiny subs and the 2nd sub will provide for more smooth bass in your apartment. That said, yes, the 3312CI is overkill, although as already said, unless you can put the savings to better use (eg. buying side surrounds), you might as well keep it.

For more info on the various Denon XX12 models, review posts 1-6 in the Denon AVR-XX12 Owner's thread linked in my sig.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

For more info on the various Denon XX12 models, review posts 1-6 in the Denon AVR-XX12 Owner's thread linked in my sig.
I swear, jd, you end with this in every post that's NOT in that XX12 thread. tongue.gif

(I did read those posts in XX12 while doing my research. Thank you for contributing, those were incredibly helpful.)
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