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post #241 of 1331
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So my "bad" comments/criticisms/questions must have struck a chord.

Interesting how that worked.

Way to ruin the beta you big meany.

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post #242 of 1331
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Originally Posted by FantaXP7 View Post

Yea I think that screenshot is just to display how it would look within a web browser. But you're right, from the videos they have display with chapters and extra tab it was all to include MKV rips of your extras and make tabs for screenshots downloaded etc giving that cool appearance as if it were a real blu ray.

At least that's what I have gotten from looking at the pics/video.

I've been setting mine up like this:

Moive (2013)
Main Title
MainTitle.mkv
Extras
Extra 1
Extra1.mkv
Extra 2
Extra2.mkv
Extra 3
Extra3.mkv

Then I display it in MB using the Chocolate theme on a list view once I get into the Movie folder. So far works pretty slick. MB seems to capture screne shots from the extras mkvs and use them as the folder images which is great (or maybe its Plex, I don't know, but I like it.)

Only a couple things I have yet to work out:

1) My main librarys are always on cover flow, which I prefer, but since that is the default, every time I add a movie, I need to switch it to the list view in the movie folder. I'm sure there is a better way to do that, but haven't figure it out yet.
2) The Extras folder comes before the Main Title folder on the list unless the movie name comes alphabetically before Extra. I'd rather it display 'Main Title' than the movie name, then display Extras after that. I can fix that by putting the movie into another folder under Main Title, but I'd rather not. Trying to figure out if there is someway I can get it to always sort on the folder name in reverse order
3) I discovered that 'Deleted Scenes' is also the name of a gay prono as MB or Plex scraped that information and folder cover for one of the movies I ripped! That was a bit of a surprise. For now, I've just changed them to 'Movie - Deleted Scenes' to avoid that.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with it. It's a bit of a pain at times to figure out which mkv file (I'm using MakeMKV) goes with which extra. If there are only a few, it only takes a few minutes, but American Reunion came up with about 40 files, so that took close to half an hour to sort out.

I did discover that many HD-DVDs (have about 50) actually name the transport stream (if that's the right term) with the name of the video, so they were already labeled when I ripped them! That was nice. Blu-ray needs to get with the program!
post #243 of 1331
As ever, our idea of "getting with the program" and the studios' are very different. As and when the unlicensed players and/or rippers (Slyce?) start to support proper naming of movie versions/extras I expect the studios to increase the obfuscation of this information to make it as hard as they possibly can for people.
post #244 of 1331
Well they do have one new trick. I went to rip The Hunger Games and there are something like 40 diffrent playlists that come up as the main movie. I did a bit of seraching online and it wasn't clear which one was the correct one. It stopped me from getting an mkv version of the movie for all of about the 2 hours it took me to torrent it.
post #245 of 1331
Yes. It's crazy. So much easier to torrent than use legal media!
post #246 of 1331
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Originally Posted by jong1 View Post

Yes. It's crazy. So much easier to torrent than use legal media!

Ripping from your disc is also illegal.
post #247 of 1331
MB3 looks very promising...I may even be willing to test the beta out once available. But one thing I don't believe was mentioned yet...will there be video game support (like the Gamebrowser plugin in MB2)? I haven't had the chance to read through the entire thread yet since I have been away from the HTPC for a bit.
post #248 of 1331
Thread Starter 
GameBrowsers Dev, Redshirt, is already working to port it over. He is also the main Dev on the Media Browser android app, so obviously attention has been mainly on that. If I remember correctly, the Game Browser plugin was listed in the video, the Devs are determined to launch with all plugins listed.
post #249 of 1331
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Ripping from your disc is also illegal.
Depends on where you live, I believe. But for most, yes. But that's the point. By making it harder to use legitimately purchased legal media than to download wholey illegal copies, the industry actually encourages pirating by otherwise law-abiding citizens. This is just what happened with music. They can keep their heads in the sand or find a sensible way to allow people to legally watch their stuff where they want without endless firmware updates and other technical gotchas, which we all know sometimes affect even regular original disc playback. Yes, Ultraviolet is supposed to address this but I'm yet to be convinced it will be anything other clumsy, hard to use, attempt to charge people more for the same content.
post #250 of 1331
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Originally Posted by jong1 View Post

Depends on where you live, I believe. But for most, yes. But that's the point. By making it harder to use legitimately purchased legal media than to download wholey illegal copies, the industry actually encourages pirating by otherwise law-abiding citizens. This is just what happened with music. They can keep their heads in the sand or find a sensible way to allow people to legally watch their stuff where they want without endless firmware updates and other technical gotchas, which we all know sometimes affect even regular original disc playback. Yes, Ultraviolet is supposed to address this but I'm yet to be convinced it will be anything other clumsy, hard to use, attempt to charge people more for the same content.

That was my point as well. Both are illegal. Only one is free.
post #251 of 1331
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Originally Posted by jong1 View Post

By making it harder to use legitimately purchased legal media than to download wholly illegal copies, the industry actually encourages pirating by otherwise law-abiding citizens.

Look what happened with Prohibition!
post #252 of 1331
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Originally Posted by FantaXP7 View Post

Yea I think that screenshot is just to display how it would look within a web browser. But you're right, from the videos they have display with chapters and extra tab it was all to include MKV rips of your extras and make tabs for screenshots downloaded etc giving that cool appearance as if it were a real blu ray.

At least that's what I have gotten from looking at the pics/video.

I've been setting mine up like this:

Moive (2013)
Main Title
MainTitle.mkv
Extras
Extra 1
Extra1.mkv
Extra 2
Extra2.mkv
Extra 3
Extra3.mkv

Then I display it in MB using the Chocolate theme on a list view once I get into the Movie folder. So far works pretty slick. MB seems to capture screne shots from the extras mkvs and use them as the folder images which is great (or maybe its Plex, I don't know, but I like it.)

Only a couple things I have yet to work out:

1) My main librarys are always on cover flow, which I prefer, but since that is the default, every time I add a movie, I need to switch it to the list view in the movie folder. I'm sure there is a better way to do that, but haven't figure it out yet.
2) The Extras folder comes before the Main Title folder on the list unless the movie name comes alphabetically before Extra. I'd rather it display 'Main Title' than the movie name, then display Extras after that. I can fix that by putting the movie into another folder under Main Title, but I'd rather not. Trying to figure out if there is someway I can get it to always sort on the folder name in reverse order
3) I discovered that 'Deleted Scenes' is also the name of a gay prono as MB or Plex scraped that information and folder cover for one of the movies I ripped! That was a bit of a surprise. For now, I've just changed them to 'Movie - Deleted Scenes' to avoid that.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with it. It's a bit of a pain at times to figure out which mkv file (I'm using MakeMKV) goes with which extra. If there are only a few, it only takes a few minutes, but American Reunion came up with about 40 files, so that took close to half an hour to sort out.

I did discover that many HD-DVDs (have about 50) actually name the transport stream (if that's the right term) with the name of the video, so they were already labeled when I ripped them! That was nice. Blu-ray needs to get with the program!

Your talking about old MB right ?

Not MB3?
post #253 of 1331
Personally, even I, a 10 year+ hardened HTPC geek, cannot face ripping all my blurays into half a dozen or so separate .mkvs just to make extras available within an HTPC front end.

I trust that someone, eventually, maybe Slysoft on the back of Slyce, will be able to inspect the menu structure (even Java) and work out the correct title for each and serve it up to the front end in a similar way to what Slysoft already do with disc.inf for ScreenPass. Then each front-end will be able to pluck the data from this file and produce a menu from a .iso or regular (un-repackaged) folder rip.

Until then, I will just have to keep using an external player when I want to get at extras.
post #254 of 1331
Thread Starter 
In case you guys are interested, you can follow Media Browser on Facebook and Twitter!!

Scottisafool, one of Media Browser's Developers, has posted links...
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Just in case any of you didn’t know, we have a facebook page (which you should like), and a twitter page (which you should follow). If you already like/follow either/both, you’ll probably not have remembered doing so, they’ve been a bit on the quiet side, but this will all be changing as we embrace our social media overlords (the internet). So if you haven’t done so already, do please share the love for our facebook and twitter accounts:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MediaBrowser.tv Twitter: http://twitter.com/mediabrowser
post #255 of 1331
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Originally Posted by xzener View Post

In case you guys are interested, you can follow Media Browser on Facebook and Twitter!!

Scottisafool, one of Media Browser's Developers, has posted links...

I can't stand twitter and particularly can't stand facebook as I think its partially responsible for the downslide of modern society. So I don't do either.

Please keep us posted with anything relevant.
post #256 of 1331
It would be funny if Facebook and Twitter became magnets for piracy and porn like what happened to IRC and Usenet. Whatever it takes for them to die the better, but something worse will rise to replace them. Follow me on Facebook for more thoughts on this topic.
post #257 of 1331
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Originally Posted by xzener View Post

Thanks Mfusick,

My plate is overflowing ATM. Work, school and MB3... I really want to get back into it, who knows... Maybe I will build a Xzenersoft website??? I am in an HTML5 class in school... Stay tuned.

http://www.xzenersoft.com/final/index.html

I see you finished !

Nice work!
post #258 of 1331
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Your talking about old MB right ?

Not MB3?

Yes. Sorry for the late reply.
post #259 of 1331
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Originally Posted by jong1 View Post

Personally, even I, a 10 year+ hardened HTPC geek, cannot face ripping all my blurays into half a dozen or so separate .mkvs just to make extras available within an HTPC front end.

I trust that someone, eventually, maybe Slysoft on the back of Slyce, will be able to inspect the menu structure (even Java) and work out the correct title for each and serve it up to the front end in a similar way to what Slysoft already do with disc.inf for ScreenPass. Then each front-end will be able to pluck the data from this file and produce a menu from a .iso or regular (un-repackaged) folder rip.

Until then, I will just have to keep using an external player when I want to get at extras.

Meh, it's not that bad. I do a couple a night. The nice thing I've found is that a lot of the HD-DVDs ( I have about 50) actually include the name of the video in the stream! Makes it super easy.
post #260 of 1331
Thread Starter 
Well guys, its official. Media Browser 3 is also coming to IOS. These 2 new developers have only been on board a little over week, already they have a working app. Check it out...

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Yup, it’s happening. This is coming courtesy of two very talented developers working in conjunction. One of them is the author of this successful app... Couch Forwarder

So for all you iOS users, you’re in good hands. Here are some teasers after barely a week of development.







I’ve probably plucked every developer out of this forum, but you all should know I’m working very hard recruiting trying to grow the MB developer community. If you want to contribute, or know someone who can, please refer them to me. I am now turning my attention to recruiting for Raspberry Pi, so if you know someone, try and get them onboard!

Luke
Media Browser Developer

So, if we have any developers out there interested in helping out the Media Browser Team... Dont hesitate to respond.
Edited by xzener - 3/18/13 at 2:00pm
post #261 of 1331
When is the beta being released?

Is there a beta testers program?
post #262 of 1331
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

When is the beta being released?

Is there a beta testers program?

This - I'm all in to help out :-)
post #263 of 1331
Are they still using VLC as the backbone player?
post #264 of 1331
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Are they still using VLC as the backbone player?

AFAIK yes - though Luke has thrown out a morsel in a previous thread (1st post) here http://community.mediabrowser.tv/permalinks/13290/mb3-update.
post #265 of 1331
Has there been any indication of how it will handle music? Specifically if it will have WASAPI output and handle multi-channel flac?
post #266 of 1331
Just out of curiosity.. Are they going away from the media center plug-in and venturing off into a stand-alone app?
post #267 of 1331
Yes
post #268 of 1331
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Originally Posted by steelman1991 View Post

AFAIK yes - though Luke has thrown out a morsel in a previous thread (1st post) here http://community.mediabrowser.tv/permalinks/13290/mb3-update.

If this works as expected, I'm sold (the LAV/MadVR aspect that is).
post #269 of 1331
I am glad they took my friendly amendment and are using it to improve their product.
post #270 of 1331
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Originally Posted by Thrillho View Post

Has there been any indication of how it will handle music? Specifically if it will have WASAPI output and handle multi-channel flac?

Yes I would like to know also, since this will now be a stand alone app.
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