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post #61 of 176
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

I'm on show 6 and thought shows 5 and 6 started to get loopy. Some of this like Underwood's backing of Russo is really bizarre.

He has some interesting reasons for it.
post #62 of 176
I just finished the series and I liked it but have some nits to pick.
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I really liked how things built up to Frank's VP nomination, but now we have the reporters trying to unravel and figure out his master plan. Wouldn't the other politicians have done the same since they are in the middle of it? I think it is a bit of stretch. The story line with Claire is interesting. I wonder how the law suit will play out.

I also think the whole situation with Tusk was odd. If he and the president are so close, wouldn't Tusk have told him that Frank figured the whole thing out? I realize that he can't say that he was trying to buy Frank's support for his China resource situation, he could let the president know more. It didn't seem like he did.
post #63 of 176
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Originally Posted by zalusky View Post

He has some interesting reasons for it.

After finishing the series, I don't really see that this was a staged plan from the beginning. I thought the first 5 eps were really good and then the quality slipped for the rest. I would continue watching it but hope that it regains its footing.
post #64 of 176
I agree. It couldn't have been staged from the start. They needed Russo to mess up to even give them an opening.

I think the Claire storyline was consistently strong but Frank's not as much. I would like to seem them explore Doug's relationship with Rachel more.
post #65 of 176
It is implied that the whole thing was planned from the start when Underwood and Stamper have a conversation saying that they need to "accelerate the plan", or something to that effect. Underwood probably planned to manipulate Russo into messing up at a later date, but Russo's admission of intent to "come clean" forced Underwood to act early.
post #66 of 176
I'm not sure how the plan would have worked if the jobs act would have passed and I know that Underwood tried hard to get it to pass. Perhaps he did ultimately want Russo to fail and at a time where there was a commitment by the Dems to Russo but a lot of this seems pretty far fetched. As it is, Underwood is losing control of those whom he thought he had under his thumb. I don't think that it is possible to keep control of everyone. It also is a little odd knowing stuff that Underwood doesn't know (about the reporters' investigation) when Underwood talks to the audience directly. I'm not sure I really like that convention.
post #67 of 176
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

I'm not sure how the plan would have worked if the jobs act would have passed and I know that Underwood tried hard to get it to pass. Perhaps he did ultimately want Russo to fail and at a time where there was a commitment by the Dems to Russo but a lot of this seems pretty far fetched. As it is, Underwood is losing control of those whom he thought he had under his thumb. I don't think that it is possible to keep control of everyone. It also is a little odd knowing stuff that Underwood doesn't know (about the reporters' investigation) when Underwood talks to the audience directly. I'm not sure I really like that convention.

That is a very good point. They arranged for Rachel to corrupt Russo once the bill failed.
post #68 of 176
My wife and I basically spent the weekend watching it; I had gotten half way through on my iPad and started over with her. I'm glad I did; some things got clearer the second time around. All in all, a first rate series, and I think it really could represent a paradigm shift in the way (and where, and on what) we watch TV.
post #69 of 176
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Originally Posted by dminches View Post

That is a very good point. They arranged for Rachel to corrupt Russo once the bill failed.

And had apparently set up the first corruption too.
post #70 of 176
Started and finished the season this weekend and thought this was a very good show. Glad to see Frank's wife finally getting what she deserved. Hoping that Gillian succeeds in screwing her over and exposing her for what she really is but we know that Frank has something up his sleeves to handle this.
post #71 of 176
It is a great show.

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But the only thing that seems off to me, is that someone like Frank would never risk his agenda by letting himself into an affair with Zoe. He is so determined to get where he wants to be. He could have been seen entering her house and staying there for longer periods at nights. Or Zoe could have secretly recorded the sex with him with a camera and using that against him etc....
Something like that is way too risky.

Also, was it an accident that Zoe walked by at him in the first place at the opera?
post #72 of 176
Just started watching this.......up to episode 10 so far, and love it!
Definitely hooked....Spacey is terrific..... looking forward to Season 2.
(Plus I can't get enough of Robin Wright!)

Just saw that Season 2 premier date is set.....Feb 14th, 2014.
Edited by mds54 - 12/10/13 at 12:46pm
post #73 of 176
It's pretty neat that Netflix made this show available all at once, a first for TV. But it's also a weakness where I'm concerned. I definitely want to see it, but I've been putting it off "until I have time". The problem is I haven't been able to find the time for that big chunk of hours (10?) yet, and they're about ready to start the next season.

I suppose it's a crutch knowing it's always there waiting, just one streaming click away. But if it were on a "normal" network with a normal one-showing-per-week schedule, I'd have already stuck it on the DVR and shoehorned it in along with my other shows. This approach, from my standpoint and I suspect others as well, is both a blessing and a curse. More of the latter, actually. I've still got 'Arrested Development' waiting for me there too. frown.gif
post #74 of 176
I think I actually saw it available on Amazon Prime which surprised me since they are now creating their own programming.
post #75 of 176
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

It's pretty neat that Netflix made this show available all at once, a first for TV. But it's also a weakness where I'm concerned. I definitely want to see it, but I've been putting it off "until I have time". The problem is I haven't been able to find the time for that big chunk of hours (10?) yet, and they're about ready to start the next season.

I suppose it's a crutch knowing it's always there waiting, just one streaming click away. But if it were on a "normal" network with a normal one-showing-per-week schedule, I'd have already stuck it on the DVR and shoehorned it in along with my other shows. This approach, from my standpoint and I suspect others as well, is both a blessing and a curse. More of the latter, actually. I've still got 'Arrested Development' waiting for me there too. frown.gif
I think it's one of those things where once you finally sit down to watch the first episode it will prime you to continue watching the rest, it's all a matter of just getting started. Initially it looks like this huge block of time, but once you get going with it I suspect it really won't seem that time consuming.
post #76 of 176
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Originally Posted by FOPA View Post

I think I actually saw it available on Amazon Prime which surprised me since they are now creating their own programming.
Garry Trudeau's(Doonesbury) "Alpha House" about a quartet of Republican senators is really good, basically anything with John Goodman in it is going to be a winner. They released the first 3(I think) all at once, but the rest are coming out weekly.
post #77 of 176
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

It's pretty neat that Netflix made this show available all at once, a first for TV. But it's also a weakness where I'm concerned. I definitely want to see it, but I've been putting it off "until I have time".
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Garry Trudeau's(Doonesbury) "Alpha House" about a quartet of Republican senators is really good, basically anything with John Goodman in it is going to be a winner. They released the first 3(I think) all at once, but the rest are coming out weekly.

I was just going to mention that in counter to what Archi said. The Amazon Prime Originals (Alpha House and Betas (Isn't it kind of weird that the two they ended up picking were the ones with greek letters in the titles?)) are streaming on a one a week basis, but that actually is hampering me wanting to watch them. I watched the first three of each, but haven't been back to see the newer released episodes (I think both are up to episode 6 now). Whereas with Arrested Development and House of Cards, I was able to watch the entire series at my leisure, when I wanted to.

I have noticed this is translating to the way I watch regular DVR content (that, and my social life keeps me busy too). Several of the shows I'm DVRing this season I am a couple episodes behind, and then I'll watch two or three in a row in one night. Then I'll go a few weeks and watch three more. Some shows that I started watching the pilot, I haven't watch again since, but they're all still on the DVR.
post #78 of 176
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Garry Trudeau's(Doonesbury) "Alpha House" about a quartet of Republican senators is really good, basically anything with John Goodman in it is going to be a winner. They released the first 3(I think) all at once, but the rest are coming out weekly.

Amazon is more interested in getting "hits" on their site-- basically people buying things-- than they are with huge ratings. The "activity", that is a result of the viewing of Alpha House, is the real deal. Viewers are secondary-- and this is the reason they did not release Alpha House all at once like House of Cards or Orange via Netflix.

With a staggered release they force people to revisit their site with the hope of more activity. They gave away three episodes for free and now you have to buy Prime for the rest. I finally did the Prime thing. I was always on the fence because most of my Amazon purchases are free and arrive fast enough. But I wanted to see all of Alpha House wink.gif

The show should be renewed. They shot it in Astoria Queens at Kaufman Studios. They just finished this season about a month ago but didn't strike the sets. They're paying for stages as if they were using them. That's a good sign that they will start up a new season, probably in a couple of months. Unless this "activity" formula fails for them, we should see more of Alpha House cool.gif

I love House of Cards. I prefer the staggered release only because it makes it more of an event. It's hard to chat with friends or family about these shows, whether it's here or in the real world, since spoilers could occur because of where they are in the season.
post #79 of 176
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post


I was just going to mention that in counter to what Archi said. The Amazon Prime Originals (Alpha House and Betas (Isn't it kind of weird that the two they ended up picking were the ones with greek letters in the titles?)) are streaming on a one a week basis, but that actually is hampering me wanting to watch them. I watched the first three of each, but haven't been back to see the newer released episodes (I think both are up to episode 6 now). Whereas with Arrested Development and House of Cards, I was able to watch the entire series at my leisure, when I wanted to.

I have noticed this is translating to the way I watch regular DVR content (that, and my social life keeps me busy too). Several of the shows I'm DVRing this season I am a couple episodes behind, and then I'll watch two or three in a row in one night. Then I'll go a few weeks and watch three more. Some shows that I started watching the pilot, I haven't watch again since, but they're all still on the DVR.
I do that with what I call "middle tier" shows, I'll let 3-5 or more episodes build up and then watch them all in a sitting. The danger in that though is you can end up piling up way too many episodes and it gets to be a burden to watch them, sort of like how Arch is feeling about HoC. I have 2 full seasons of Treme on a DVR and I honestly don't know when I'll ever get to them.
post #80 of 176
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post



Amazon is more interested in getting "hits" on their site-- basically people buying things-- than they are with huge ratings. The "activity", that is a result of the viewing of Alpha House, is the real deal. Viewers are secondary-- and this is the reason they did not release Alpha House all at once like House of Cards or Orange via Netflix.

With a staggered release they force people to revisit their site with the hope of more activity. They gave away three episodes for free and now you have to buy Prime for the rest. I finally did the Prime thing. I was always on the fence because most of my Amazon purchases are free and arrive fast enough. But I wanted to see all of Alpha House wink.gif

The show should be renewed. They shot it in Astoria Queens at Kaufman Studios. They just finished this season about a month ago but didn't strike the sets. They're paying for stages as if they were using them. That's a good sign that they will start up a new season, probably in a couple of months. Unless this "activity" formula fails for them, we should see more of Alpha House cool.gif

I love House of Cards. I prefer the staggered release only because it makes it more of an event. It's hard to chat with friends or family about these shows, whether it's here or in the real world, since spoilers could occur because of where they are in the season.
Right, it's all about driving sales at Amazon, and yes, the all at once approach Netflix uses does make it somewhat difficult to discuss, there's no "water-cooler" effect with those shows, not much of one anyhow. I think "Orange" generated more of that type of buzz than HoC did.
post #81 of 176
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

I think it's one of those things where once you finally sit down to watch the first episode it will prime you to continue watching the rest, it's all a matter of just getting started. Initially it looks like this huge block of time, but once you get going with it I suspect it really won't seem that time consuming.

We've gotten so used to doing marathon watches on our favorite shows, it almost becomes second nature .. knocking out "Sons of Anarchy" this week ..

It's about like viewing one very long movie this way .. myself, I prefer it ..
post #82 of 176
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

We've gotten so used to doing marathon watches on our favorite shows, it almost becomes second nature .. knocking out "Sons of Anarchy" this week ..

It's about like viewing one very long movie this way .. myself, I prefer it ..
Funny you should mentions "Sons", I sat down to watch the last 4 episodes plus the season finale last night and it turns out they're all extended length episodes of 90 mins or more! I had to save the last two for tonight. biggrin.gif
post #83 of 176
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Funny you should mentions "Sons", I sat down to watch the last 4 episodes plus the season finale last night and it turns out they're all extended length episodes of 90 mins or more! I had to save the last two for tonight. biggrin.gif

Yeah, they could have done a much longer season if they had kept the old format .. we're up to episode 5 and will do 2 or three more tonight probably .. so far, not quite as good as previous seasons, IMO ..
post #84 of 176
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

We've gotten so used to doing marathon watches on our favorite shows, it almost becomes second nature .. knocking out "Sons of Anarchy" this week ..

It's about like viewing one very long movie this way .. myself, I prefer it ..

Yep - Knocked off Banshee in one sitting the other day. Hit the fast forward a few times wink.gif
post #85 of 176
House of Cards season 2 to be streamed in 4K by Netflix
By Mark Langshaw / Thursday, Dec 19 2013, 9:08am EST / digitalspy.com

House of Cards season 2 will be available to stream in 4K through Netflix when it begins next year. The Kevin Spacey-fronted drama will be the first Netflix show to support Ultra HD, but will only be offered in this resolution on select next-generation smart TVs.
The streaming giant's 4K service will come built into a number of new television sets, due to be announced at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) next month.

We're not naming specific manufacturers but we have several of the major TV vendors who are going to be producing 4K-capable TVs - they'll be announcing them at CES, chief product officer Neil Hunt told Stuff.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s233/house-of-cards/news/a539558/house-of-cards-season-2-to-be-streamed-in-4k-by-netflix.html
Edited by Young C - 12/19/13 at 6:11pm
post #86 of 176
That should be fun for bandwidth, since H.264 isn't designed to accomodate resolutions that high.
post #87 of 176
Maybe using HTML5 and VP8 or VP9?
post #88 of 176
VP8 is roughly equivalent to H.264, and VP9 is roughly equivalent to H.265. Both VP9 and H.265 are designed to support UHD, but neither of them has existed long enough to have mature encoders that will necessarily surpass the quality achieved by x264. If we knew which TV models would support streaming the show in UHD, it might give us a hint as to which format Netflix is going to use.
post #89 of 176
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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives View Post

VP8 is roughly equivalent to H.264, and VP9 is roughly equivalent to H.265. Both VP9 and H.265 are designed to support UHD, but neither of them has existed long enough to have mature encoders that will necessarily surpass the quality achieved by x264. If we knew which TV models would support streaming the show in UHD, it might give us a hint as to which format Netflix is going to use.
The one that doesn't cost anything to use (VP8 or VP9).
post #90 of 176
The official season 2 trailer was released today. Here's the Youtube video
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