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bought intel atom mobo/cpu as an extender but can't get it to play well

post #1 of 24
2/4/13 at 9:17am
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Okay so I bought this board and cpu:

ASUS AT5IONT-I Intel Atom D525 (1.8GHz, dual core) BGA559 Intel NM10 Mini ITX Motherboard / CPU Combo


I want to use as an extender on a home network. It's a decent little pc but I can't figure out how to get it to play 720p. How do I set this up to maximize potential? Most of my collection is mostly dvd anyhow but I would like to play some hd youtube and some blu ray isos I have on my main htpc. The problem is it studders pretty bad on youtube 720p or above and also when streaming just standard dvd's from my other pc... I have pretty much come to the conclusion that it isn't going to work but I have read reviews of this board (mainly on newegg) where people say it does 720p and even 1080p if set up correctly. They don't elaborate on how though... I anyone has this board I would be interested to hear your thoughts and experiences with this set up.

I am using this with a SSD drive and 4gb of ram, win7.


Thank you!
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post #2 of 24
2/4/13 at 9:44am
I don't have the Atom... instead the E-350. Start by loading MPC-HC to see how well it plays since it has DXVA codecs included. After proving this out, grab the LAV filter for its SPLITTER, and the MPC-HC Stand Alone Filter for the MPVideoCodec.

These work under MediaPortal but WMC is sorta on its own -- be sure you have the latest video driver and uncheck ALL post processing options in the setup -- they just eat up iGPU.
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post #3 of 24
2/5/13 at 2:04pm
WMC is pretty easy to get it to launch an external player using this utility: http://mikinho.com/wmc/open-with/

My question is what software are you using to play these files (WMC? WMP?) and where are you playing them from (local? NAS? external HDD?) (after you get through Andrew's list)
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post #4 of 24
2/5/13 at 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew Hornfeck View Post

I don't have the Atom... instead the E-350. Start by loading MPC-HC to see how well it plays since it has DXVA codecs included. After proving this out, grab the LAV filter for its SPLITTER, and the MPC-HC Stand Alone Filter for the MPVideoCodec.
These work under MediaPortal but WMC is sorta on its own -- be sure you have the latest video driver and uncheck ALL post processing options in the setup -- they just eat up iGPU.

I don't think DXVA is going to be smooth for HD video playback with a 2010 Atom, but I can't say for sure. The Intel GMA 3150 is probably going to trip over itself more than it helps

I think best bet for this would be software decode

Surely a 1.8GHz dual core w/ 4GB DDR2 667 can software decode 720p. Have you tried playing back a file locally from a usb drive?
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post #5 of 24
2/6/13 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

I don't think DXVA is going to be smooth for HD video playback with a 2010 Atom, but I can't say for sure. The Intel GMA 3150 is probably going to trip over itself more than it helps

I think best bet for this would be software decode

Surely a 1.8GHz dual core w/ 4GB DDR2 667 can software decode 720p. Have you tried playing back a file locally from a usb drive?

It's an ION2 motherboard so no GMA3150.
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post #6 of 24
2/6/13 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

It's an ION2 motherboard so no GMA3150.

Missed that, I re-searched and found the right board

I've no experience with ION integrated, but driver/video decoder compatibility are going to be a must for stable playback
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post #7 of 24
2/6/13 at 12:39pm
If you can, return it and get a board with an i3-based Celeron (like the G620) - far faster, barely more expensive, barely more power usage. Atom is no longer compelling with how power efficient and cheap "real" CPUs have gotten.
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post #8 of 24
2/8/13 at 9:30am
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I can't return it and I'm not really worried either way. I was going to use it as an extender. I just need to figure out how to play 720p at least... I was trying to play youtube and it was studdering on 720p. Also when streaming from my main htpc over wifi regular dvd rips were lagging... From what I have read is properly set up this should be able to do what I want.
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post #9 of 24
2/8/13 at 9:54am
I think for the ion platform you may want to look into coreavc for smooth playback of mkv. A few Years ago I had to use that to correctly offload to the GPU for smooth playback
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post #10 of 24
2/9/13 at 8:25am
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I'm not using mkv's though... I rip my dvd's to TS files.. And my blu ray's to iso. Yeah what you said about unloading to the gpu is what I have been reading. I just don't know how to do it. I never had to worry about this with the other pc so haven't done much research on it. Just getting started.
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post #11 of 24
2/9/13 at 11:52am
What player you using it may be a setting in the player to enable hardware acceleration.
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post #12 of 24
2/9/13 at 2:53pm
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I'm just using WMC on win7 with MB. I haven't tried to stream iso's yet because the studdering was bad enough on youtube as it is.
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post #13 of 24
2/9/13 at 3:35pm
YouTube if its still using flash as the player your atom ion system may be underpowered. I could never get anything flash or silver light based to play smooth on my TV in full screen. I think flash is dependent on CPU power. But I may be wrong.
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post #14 of 24
2/10/13 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by drtdiver View Post

YouTube if its still using flash as the player your atom ion system may be underpowered. I could never get anything flash or silver light based to play smooth on my TV in full screen. I think flash is dependent on CPU power. But I may be wrong.

I think the key is off loading to the gpu. I have read a bunch of reviews where people really knock this board/cpu to people who say that if set up correctly the thing works great. I have to spend the time to figure it out. I bought it as an extender and right now I don't really need it so I am not consumed by trying to figure it out 100%.
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post #15 of 24
2/11/13 at 5:06am
The board does need a lot of tinkering to get working smoothly. But even with GPU acceleration of flash video it will still not play YouTube very well. Its been a few years since I gave up on my atom/ion system. If you figure out anything let us know here I would like to dig my board out and put it to use.
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post #16 of 24
2/11/13 at 12:25pm
I, too, never had any success getting my Acer Revo 1600 (original ATOM/ION nettop) to play web-based video smoothly. It does a fine job with high-bitrate Blu-ray rips, though.
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post #17 of 24
2/12/13 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by drtdiver View Post

The board does need a lot of tinkering to get working smoothly. But even with GPU acceleration of flash video it will still not play YouTube very well. Its been a few years since I gave up on my atom/ion system. If you figure out anything let us know here I would like to dig my board out and put it to use.

I will figure it out just have to read some more. I will post up when I figure it out.
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post #18 of 24
2/12/13 at 12:24pm
I am new to this thread. Am I reading it right that you can turn a PC into a Windows Media Center Extender? How do I do that?
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post #19 of 24
2/12/13 at 12:29pm
Wmc extender no.

Htpc extender yes.
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post #20 of 24
2/12/13 at 3:12pm
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I am new to this thread. Am I reading it right that you can turn a PC into a Windows Media Center Extender? How do I do that?

There was once a group attempting to reverse engineer some available extenders to compile a build that would function as a WMC extender

I don't think they ever made anything functional

http://softsled.codeplex.com/
https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP/wiki/Windows-Media-Center
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post #21 of 24
2/12/13 at 3:19pm
Well, as far as media sharing goes. With Windows 7 running, I can always map the network drive and watch video and recordings. I don't need to watch DRM protected cable stuffs. It is the Live TV and recording in progress that I am interested. Thanks anyway!
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post #22 of 24
2/12/13 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by pixelation View Post

Well, as far as media sharing goes. With Windows 7 running, I can always map the network drive and watch video and recordings. I don't need to watch DRM protected cable stuffs. It is the Live TV and recording in progress that I am interested. Thanks anyway!

Like this http://www.directv.com/technology/wholehome?lpos=Header:3 biggrin.gif
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post #23 of 24
2/13/13 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by Ascen5sion View Post

I will figure it out just have to read some more. I will post up when I figure it out.


Heck I saw a Rasberry Pi on youtube doing 1080p... If that thing can do it this board can. Besides Zotac has a htpc with this mobo/cpu and it comes with a blu ray. I can't imagine an out of the box blu ray player has the power of this mobo/cpu.
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post #24 of 24
2/13/13 at 11:48am
Problem with Flash? Which browser are you using?
I have an Atom/Ion setup with madVR/LAV (lower end settngs) and it handles blu-ray rips fine, local or streamed.


Also, did you install nvidia drivers or are you using windows'?
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