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post #1 of 13
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Since upgrading the main tv in the family room, I'm getting the itch to build a dedicated theatre. It's something I've considered for a while but now its something that I would actually like to price out and see just how much it would cost and what I can actually get for the money I'm willing to spend.

The room is in the basement which is currently unfinished. I havent had anyone come in yet to quote me on construction costs so I will need to make a few phone calls soon and see how much this will be. The area I am thinking of placing the theatre is roughly 15-16' wide by up to 35' long. I figure I wont need all of that space and in the end plan on having 3 rows of seats with 3 seats per row. This should give me enough space to add one more portable chair to each side if more people come over. I figure that you will need roughly 16.5' for seating to allow for space for people to stretch (Im using Salamander seating as the benchmark, not sure if they will be seating though). I plan on using a 120" screen so I figure the front row should be roughly 10-12' from the screen with each row being 66" further than the previous (11', 16.5', 22'). With this information I figure 24-26' of interior length will be needed. that should give me clearance behind the last row to fit a rack. I would have liked the rack to be upfront but I dont think there will be enough space. Once walls are put up and all of the treatment is done interior width will most likely drop to around 13'

As for the equipment I want to build something that is decent but relatively inexpensive. I was looking to keep the speakers,projector, screen, amp, avr as close to $10,000 as possible not including shipping or anything like that.

Benq W7000 $1800
Elunevision 120" fixed screen $400
Emotiva XPA5 $900
Anthem mrx 300 $1000
JTR T8 x5 $6000
Surrounds added later
subwoofer up to $1500
Total: Under $12,000 slightly over budget but w.e.

I chose that Benq projector because I read a review today that compared it to a few other projectors and it seemed to stack up very well for 2D, not the best of the options but nothing that said it was awful, and it got glowing 3D reviews as it had virtually no crosstalk. Also Since Im in Canada electronics are quite a bit more expensive and much harder to get. This one is available at our local retailer and I can get it for a pretty good price.

On the topic of screens the Elunevision screens seem to get good reviews for a cheap screen, that screen is listed as having a $600 msrp and being able to get it for $400 seemed pretty good to me, what do you guys think?

Bouncing around the forums people seem to love JTR around here good service and good products. I figure lets try my hand with him. I would like the T12 but that would push me even further over budget. what about stands for the speakers, are they needed, can these things be wall mounted lol?

For the sub Im not sure if I should look at a dual setup right now and get something like 2x svs pb12 NSD, or get a single pb12 Plus and consider adding another later on. Also When considering power are the emotiva amps and anthem receivers a good combo. I hear very good things about the ARC room correction and the Emotiva XPA 5 is rated at 300w for 4 ohms which can give me reference level volumes at 16.5' according to the online calculator I used.

What do you guys think of this setup. Is there anything that sticks out from that list that I would need. Im hoping that the construction can be done for less than $13,000 to keep the entire build at or under $25,000. This would be a very large investment for myself and I just want to make sure that everything I can is the best for the money.

To add I realize that seating can be a huge cost. I just did a quick build on Salamander Designs site and it told me that the seats would be close to $21,000 which is way out of my budget. Which theatre seats do you guys recommend and how much would they be, I'm not very familiar with seating. If Theatre seats are too expensive I may just go to a Lazy Boy and purchase 3 couches for now and switch them later on. As for theatre seating, the ceiling is rather low 8', is it wise to leave the first row at ground level and increase the height of the subsequent rows by 8"-1', leaving 6' of clearance at the third row?

What else would I need to make everything work. What about acoustic treatment, how much is it and which ones are recommended, again considering that this is not an existing room and will be built for theatre use. This is still in the very rough planning stages so any feedback would be cool.
post #2 of 13
- XPA-5 is plenty of power for 5 speakers. You could even do an XPA-3 for your front three and let your AVR handle your surrounds.
- W7000 is a good PJ. Out of the box, however, colour is terrible. (I read about this before I demo'd one in my HT, and it's true!) But it's easily tweakable to get very good PQ.
- Dunno about Anthem, but a Denon or Onkyo w/ Audyssey MultEQ XT32 is another option.
- For your space, I'd pass on the PB12-NSDs and go dual PB12-Plus (get one now, add one later) or dual PSA XV-15.
- Not sure if you checked them out, but Grandview is a good place for screens. Not sure if the "bang for buck" is better than Elunevision, though.

Oh, and best of luck with the new HT. Sounds like it'll be pretty cool! cool.gif
Edited by eljaycanuck - 2/5/13 at 6:11pm
post #3 of 13
As far as seating goes...instead of couches check out this site for a fun and unique way for seating...smile.gif

http://www.comfysacks.com/
I just ordered the 7.5 lounger in black corduroy...wink.gif

Or if you really want seats check these out from home depot

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-203472645/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=club+chair&storeId=10051#.URGt1OVOm2d

At 100 bucks a chair that's a hell of a lot better than 21 grand...wink.gif
post #4 of 13
Why not go with 3 JTR Triple 8HTs for your LCR and use Single 8HTs for your surrounds and save yourself the $300 per speaker.
Another is that the JTR speakers from what I've read are very easy to driver, so why not try to find a Denon 4311 avr and use that to drive all 5 speakers.
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by josh6113 View Post

As far as seating goes...instead of couches check out this site for a fun and unique way for seating...smile.gif

http://www.comfysacks.com/
I just ordered the 7.5 lounger in black corduroy...wink.gif

Or if you really want seats check these out from home depot

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-203472645/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=club+chair&storeId=10051#.URGt1OVOm2d

At 100 bucks a chair that's a hell of a lot better than 21 grand...wink.gif

Haha Thats awesome. I can pick some of those up for sure, keep them as extra seating. They look really comfortable too.


As for the XT32 how about this Onkyo 818 I should be able to get this for $700-800.

I was originally thinking of the single 8's but it seems like for $300 ea that the T8's would be quite an improvement, am I correct in this statement or would I be better off with the singles?
post #6 of 13
From all that I've read on the JTR Forums and the JTR thread in the AVS speaker section the Single 8s are more then capable. I've even read where some guys have used them as the LCR mains for their front speakers are they were totally happy with them! Don't let the fact that they are only a single 8 fool up. They are still more powerful then a lot of of speaker brands.
post #7 of 13
I would upgrade the projector and lose the amp. The JTR speakers will run fine on the receiver power. I would also run 3 T8s and Single 8 for surrounds and/or front wide or front height speakers.
Maybe go to the Panasonic PT8000 or Epson 5020 projector.

Maybe also change receivers to the Pioneer Elite or Denon brands.
post #8 of 13
Petden, where abouts are you located?
post #9 of 13
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Petden, where abouts are you located?

Ontario. A little ways away from BC lol.

Amazon.com has some pretty sweet prices on the SC 68. Too bad .ca doesnt have it.
post #10 of 13
Haha yeah that's a little ways away from BC, too bad I was going to say stop by and have a listen to my dual PSA XS30 set up. Seriously though you should try to find a deal on a Denon AVR-4311, it has more then enough power to drive JTR speakers to referrence levels. And it also has Audyssey MultEQ XT32 which is great for EQing your sub and will also work with dual subs if you decide to get another one down the road.
post #11 of 13
JTR are great speakers, no doubt, but they are eating up a disproportionate amount of your budget. The SVS subs will not be able to keep up with those speakers at all. In fact, I would say, go for a JTR subwoofers instead, but get another less expensive brand of speaker. Some of said that the QSC K series PA speakers are very good and can easily be used for home theater, you might consider some of those for the front stage since they are self-amplified and will take away the need and cost of the Emotiva amp. That right there would save a ton of money that should be spent on good subwoofers. In Canada, take a look at the subs from Funk Audio. Do not spend a lot on the surround speakers! You might look at some Yamaha MSR speakers for that role.
post #12 of 13
I would still suggest using the single 8s for the surrounds to match with the Triple 8s, but with the money you save going with the singles over the triple 8s for surrounds along with not going with a Emotiva amp. I would do what shadyj suggests and put that towards the sub. A 18.0C from Funk Audio is a great sub. But the Captivator 1000 from JTR would be great value for $1900. There's plenty of feed back and user reviews on that sub too.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Petden View Post

Haha Thats awesome. I can pick some of those up for sure, keep them as extra seating. They look really comfortable too.


As for the XT32 how about this Onkyo 818 I should be able to get this for $700-800.

I was originally thinking of the single 8's but it seems like for $300 ea that the T8's would be quite an improvement, am I correct in this statement or would I be better off with the singles?

The T8's would be great as LCR's. I would go with Slanted 8's as side surrounds and mount hem high up on those side walls because as you mentioned, the room is a bit narrow for T8 surrounds.
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