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Ceiling design, treating duct work above?

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Are there any good references for construction below ducts in the ceiling (between a framed ceiling and the floor joists above) in terms of minimizing the transmission of noise from the room INTO the ducts?

I know that I've seen it mentioned here and there in dedicated threads, but was curious if there was a reference, or any "best practices" approach.

I think I've seen replacing flex ducting with rigid, and then wrapping that and building a MDF shell around it? Or is this really only a concern when running HVAC through soffits IN the room?

I hope my post makes sense. I'm probably going to have to cut my losses and deal with a 8' ceiling, and have to deal with the 1' loss in height due to dropped ducts. I appreciate everybody's comments in my other thread! It's been eye opening, that's for sure.
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I've seen seen replacing flex ducting with rigid, and then wrapping that and building a MDF shell around it? Or is this really only a concern when running HVAC through soffits IN the room?

IMHO, The general best practice is to build soundproofed ceilings keeping sound from the ducts that pass overhead, Also surrounding the ducts with insulation and in extreme cases adding mass to the side walls of ducts to keep them from picking up the sound. DynaMat Extreme is a dampening mass.

Now for ducts that open to the theater you want a strategy that keeps sound from propagating down the length of the duct. Strategies include replacing metal with flex and adding a couple of 90 degree turns. They also sell acoustical flex duct with fabric inner sleeves which performs better than off the shelf flex duct with plastic liners. If you can hear the furnace fan motor, you have a problem that may be fixed by changing the acoustical properties of the duct itself.

Don't overlook the need to size your ducts for the theater such that air turbulence noise is minimized. If you can hear air entering the room, you have a problem.
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Hey, Big,
Thanks for your thoughts!

I was planning on double 5/8 drywall and Green Glue on an isolated framed ceiling OR clips and hat track. I just wasn't sure beyond that - in addition to filling open joists with insulation, if there was something else that was practical. I'm still not sold on the flex ducting that everybody uses, I still like the old school metal duct-work! I've seen some of the acoustical flex duct though - looks pretty substantial.

Thanks for the tips on ducts open to the theater. I feel like that's a can of worms in itself - but I think I have the basics. I think that I've seen a soffit that you built with a very nicely layered approach that I liked as well.

For the theater, I was planning on the largest ducts that I can fit in the joist bays, and using linear diffuser/slot vents to try to maximize the surface area of the vents. I know it's hard to do HVAC WELL unless you invest some planning in it. I've read some of Dennis' posts as well on the importance of it. I have a CEDIA spec that makes some really good general HVAC recommendations as well (pretty much standardizing what most people strive for in building on here anyway). I'll post a build thread when I get closer to it - so that I can get some feedback.
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