Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast
My sentiment (though thanks for trying to put a positive spin on it
) was that it's not designed for 10 speakers, and maybe you should try setting it up first as 5.1, then adding speakers to taste.
Of course, a bad unit would explain your dissatisfaction, since so many of us with different systems seem to be happy with it. That would really suck, though, especially with Pioneer back-peddling.
Some graphs with Room EQ Wizard would prove your point, if you were so inclined.
There are, of course, several ways of creating a problem that would get it looked at under warranty.
That’s what I did, was set it up to “taste” as it was allowed. I wasn’t trying to spin anything. I just didn’t think you were saying anything that needed spinning, just thought it was “friendly” banter. Guess that’s what I get for thinking. Maybe that’s my problem with all this, I'm thinking. Oh and reading the instructions and expecting the performance quality that I have had in past Pioneer gear. And as it has been said that Pioneer TS is a mess, it only makes sense that their crankiness is because they are tired of have to clean up the mess of a failing line of gear. Well anyway . . .
That’s exactly what I did, started with 5.1 and it was OK. Then went to 7.1 (could have done 7.2, but why two subs, I have them, I have a gorgeous Velodyne dual cabinet, and plenty of power, but it only asks for trouble) then with Front Wide, basically 9 speakers. But I am using two in series for the center, 10. That's my "to taste" and as depicted in the set up OSD. What's wrong with 9ish speakers when the unit has provisions for it? 7.2 plus two wide as per the speaker set up.
I don't see where these aren't set up for 9 (10) speakers. They are, it's right there is the speaker set up. Or is that just a fictional area that isn't suppose to do anything? Aren't these supposedly "premium" performance units with all kinds of tricks? I just can’t get the same big full rich sound that I had with my 10 year old VSX-D909S. Anyway . . .
I looked up the REW software and if I can find all the parts to my Behringer Ultra-Curve or SonaPulse, it'll do the same thing on an industrial scale. If I'm inclined. I brought the Yammi over and hooked it up 7.1 and WOW! what a difference with no set up. So I guess since these Pioneer units aren't made for my application, maybe I should switch brands and go back to Yamaha or find myself a good SurPre and get some of those new Crowns (frickin’ nuts machines) to power things. Might even break out one of The Voice of Thunder subs (4’ x 4’ x 18” with 15" Horn Loaded Cetec Gauss driver) and see how that works. Then I’ll be at home or maybe startin' off with this for my front 3, one of my current installs in progress, and the new Crown power. Ooooo, Baby!
I started as an AL roadie in the mid 70's and like my sound and lighting big. That's why I have all kinds of road gear warehoused and do big installs. Thus having 10+ custom studio monitors (originally made for Caribou Ranch) readily available.
Maybe I am asking too much of this unit after the 909. Never had these problems with Pioneer gear before. Glad I got a 4 year extended warranty in this thing. I had a feeling. It'll make it easier to fix or sell. But then . . . this is only my bedroom.
/book and over explanation