Originally Posted by DodgerBlue2
Just for the record since you asked, previous posts about problems configuring/using the SC-1222K:
1. FarmerBob’s numerous revealing and insightful posts on multiple features lacking compared to others (909, etc.) which I won’t regurgitate here
2. Inability to watch video from one source while audio listening on another source, which is a high priority for me
3. Multiple no picture or sound postings after connecting HDMI and other connections
4. Advanced MCACC not recognizing the sub and changing the channel level and separately not detecting speakers correctly
5. The need to make speaker level adjustments post-MCACC (why necessary if this app is supposed to set your speaker levels correctly for room size, etc.?)
6. No sub output after setup
7. User hostile Wiring Navi app/program with non-intuitive interface and misconfiguring
8. Optical audio out switching issues
9. No onscreen volume display
10. Firmware update issues even after multiple FAT32 reformattings
11. Wireless dongle connectivity issues
12. Lack of 12v triggers so would buy the SC61 instead
13. Pandora problems
14. Received a defective SC-1222K
15. Considering selling the 1222 and buying the 1522
16. Inability to access network setup easily
Day 2 starts now for continuing setup/config. We'll see how it goes.
Not trying to pick a fight, but lacking features does not fall under " problems configuring/using the SC-1222K". You know about them going in, if you NEED them, dont buy the 1222-K. This goes for the OSD volume and 12V triggers too.
HDMI issues? Everyone has them. Even Onkyo, Denon, Marantz, etc. 99% of the time I wouldnt fault the AVR, I would fault the complete lack of standard for HDMI handshakes, connections, devices, cables, etc.
There is no NEED to adjust MCACC settings....mine sound just fine after auto. But, completely unlike Audyssey, you CAN actually adjust them. There are at least a few people saying their Pioneer sounds better than the Onkyo they tried it up against. Wondering how much of that could be because you can actually tailor the 1222-K to how you like it (or to correct it even further), vs Audyssey that you cant touch (at least not without the Pro Kit)
Considering selling the 1222? Not because he didnt like it, he wanted to upgrade.
Received a defective? No offense but have you read any of the Onkyo owner threads? Defectives abound. Just the nature of the beast (not just Onkyo, but every piece of electronics everywhere). My favorite is the video review of the 809 on Amazon.com. Actually caught on fire whenever it was turned on. At least the defective Pio in this case didnt catch fire!
Ive noticed the network setup selection is grayed out upon initial entrance to the UI. My theory is that the network is "idled down" when the AVR is off (or in standby), unless you have network control on. I would be interested to see if the unit indeed grabs an IP the second you open the UI, and so technically before that happens you have no active network connection to configure, hence the menu choice is grayed out. Minor quirk, at least to me, because its always enabled itself after a second or two of being on that menu screen.
Pandora issues are well known, agreed they could "fix" it better, but there are loads of posts in here talking about how to get it working correctly.
To me, the biggest deal between Onkyo and Pioneer is Onkyos unfavorable track record, especially in regards to HDMI boards. It still stands to be seen if they've really corrected it (by the newer replacement boards, or the newer 818 model), or if they've just managed to kick the can down the road 2 or 3 years from now when the boards start failing again. Also, compared to the x09 models, the Pioneer implementation of standby is a whole lot better. When Onkyo tells you your AVR can draw up to 75W in standby, you know there is a problem. Sounds like theyve resolved that in the 818 model, but that doesnt do any good for those of us who couldnt afford the 818 (or didnt need the higher model). To me that is a huge issue, because 90% of the time my kids are watching TV.....I dont need 7.1 cranking for Spongebob, nor do I want the AVR completely powered up for it.