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post #331 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GaryWA View Post

I can tell you that this receiver is very good, I can't tell you how good because my Monitor 75T's are the limiting factor here. You should upgrade your speakers before buying a high end receiver like the 3313. But for $530, I couldn't resist.

Upgrading the speakers is a negative. I'm just buying the center channel and a AVR for now. Once we get our new house then I will upgrade everything.

I agree with you that for $529.99 is an excellent price.
post #332 of 1383
How's the iPhone /iPad control app for this receiver? And has the pandora issue beenfixed? I was reading the app reviews and they are not positive.
post #333 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

How's the iPhone /iPad control app for this receiver? And has the pandora issue beenfixed? I was reading the app reviews and they are not positive.
Iphone/ ipad app is great! Pandora issue is fixed after firmware upgrade.
post #334 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

How's the iPhone /iPad control app for this receiver? And has the pandora issue beenfixed? I was reading the app reviews and they are not positive.

I am completely happy with the iPad app. It is great looking, very reaponsive, etc. I am not sure what all the bad reviews are for.
post #335 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I just sold my AVR with a 5.1 set up that I had laying around. I sold it the same day I posted it on craiglist for $200 dollars. Now, I need a new receiver and a center channel. I will be ordering the 25C to match with my Monitor 70s. I've been waiting for the CS2 series II to come back to newegg, but it appears they are not going to return.mad.gif

So, at the moment I am looking at this AVR or buying a refurbished DENON AVR 3313ci.

I replaced a Marantz SR6003 with a 1222K and couldn't be happier with this receiver. I noticed a difference in the sound quality immediately with my JBL L880's, and I thought I couldn't get any better at this price point. I am searching for another avr for my bedroom and after enjoying this since September I can't bring myself to buy anything less. The D3 amps have me sold, I can run my system for extended periods at higher levels and it barely gets lukewarm. I have had decent reliability with Pioneer receivers in the past so I will either get another 1222K or get a refurbed SC-65.

Other than it takes a little while to get used to the remote and all the features I can't complain a bit. (perhaps I am a bit spoiled by the simplicity of the Marantz and HK receivers I had before.) I am not praising this receiver just because I own it, (no "fanboy" here) but I have owned many different brands over the years and this one well worth the money, but like others have said time will tell as far as reliability.
post #336 of 1383
So far I'm not a huge fan of MCACC's channel levels. It keeps increasing the db's of the surround towers to higher than the front stage, eventhough the surrounds are much closer to the mic than the front stage. The sub is also being put at -12, which is way too low. I've moved it to -2.5 instead for now. Any recommendations?
post #337 of 1383
I've been using PS3 Media Server for years now,
with Onkyo TX706 receiver...

Lots of my movies and music are .mkv and mp4 ripped to pc in another room...

So looking to upgrade now,and all receivers are Networked by themselves...

Will i no longer use the PS3 Media Server, and just use the Receiver gui to run these files like this?


If any of you have screenshots that might be nice..

Currently looking at:
Pioneer SC 1222, Onkyo 818, Denon 3112


thank you

speakers
HSU Hybrid 15 (with VTF 15 sub)
post #338 of 1383
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Originally Posted by goblue1 View Post

So far I'm not a huge fan of MCACC's channel levels. It keeps increasing the db's of the surround towers to higher than the front stage, eventhough the surrounds are much closer to the mic than the front stage. The sub is also being put at -12, which is way too low. I've moved it to -2.5 instead for now. Any recommendations?

Tell us about your microphone placement. I put mine facing up at ear level at my primary listening position. In iPad all it shows the before and after curves. This may help you figure out why it is turning your sub down so low.

In a "normal" room there may be huge peaks and valleys in sub response. Maybe it is trying to squash one if these peaks? The before/after curves should help us understand what is going on.

Good luck!
Salem
post #339 of 1383
asap:
About to pull trigger for newegg $549 discount...

Does this "network" functionality stream mkv and mp4 files from remote pc?

or will i still use my PS3 to stream these files?
post #340 of 1383
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Originally Posted by jlm86 View Post

asap:
About to pull trigger for newegg $549 discount...

Does this "network" functionality stream mkv and mp4 files from remote pc?

or will i still use my PS3 to stream these files?

You will still need to use a media player for that.
post #341 of 1383
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Originally Posted by goblue1 View Post

I figured I couldn't get full range/band after setting to small, but was hoping for a way for 2ch music purposes.

So far I'm not a huge fan of MCACC's channel levels. It keeps increasing the db's of the surround towers to higher than the front stage, eventhough the surrounds are much closer to the mic than the front stage. The sub is also being put at -12, which is way too low. I've moved it to -2.5 instead for now. Any recommendations?

The next time you run MCACC try this :

- Set memory to M1, then run MCACC

- When done, copy M1 to all other memories - M2-M6

- Start on M1 and play whatever source

If you do not like the balance, switch to M2 (MCACC - #5), then use the CH LEVEL (#6) to select & adjust channel level(s).

Now, you can switch between M1 & M2 to compare while listening to different sources. Repeat as needed with the other memories. You can also rename them. I leave the MCACC memories as M and rename any I alter.

For my setup, I have found MCACC generally very good for movies. Some TV shows do not seem as well balanced - so I adjust.
post #342 of 1383
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Originally Posted by icelt View Post

You might be referring to the Audio Technica AT-LP60?

If so agreed it is even less expensive, however it is NOT the same version as the LP120 just minus the USB. There are technical reasons why the 60 is less than half the price of the 120, one minor loss of which is the USB capability. A more significant difference is drive mechanism, the 60 is belt driven the 120 direct. And there are others.

Regardless, depending on ones expectations, they are both well regarded turntables. However IMHO the additional features and construciton of the 120 are well worth the nominal up-charge to acquire them.

If you're going to go this route and be serious about it, why not just get the industry standard, most copied, longest lasting workhorse model table on the market that this was copied after, the Technics SL1200MKII series (now up to MK6). I have two from my (real) DJ days and I love them. Still. I have them connected to a mixer that is plugged into my Mac tower for recording AIFF mixes and archiving vinyl. If you are going to be doing any "mixing", you'll need a direct drive table with a slip mat.

I must say that I am amused at these knockoff models. But am intrigued by the USB portion. OF WHICH if you are going from analog to digital, why bother with anything expensive. As many people are discovering digital is not all that is was made out to be. That's why vinyl is making a big come back. I have always noticed the difference (lack of richness and depth) that is why I am really liking the 1222 for clarity without adjustments. Not too keen on the lack of flexibility though.
post #343 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

How's the iPhone /iPad control app for this receiver? And has the pandora issue beenfixed? I was reading the app reviews and they are not positive.

Pandora issue was fixed last year. Regarding the iPad and iPhone/Android app, you can see some screenshots and video in post #76 in this same thread. See also the first post in order to know more details about the receiver. Pandora can be configured using the integrated web server. I do not know any problem with the iPad app, it works and it is very nice. Where are those negative app reviews?

Regards
post #344 of 1383
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Originally Posted by okibcn View Post

Pandora issue was fixed last year. Regarding the iPad and iPhone/Android app, you can see some screenshots and video in post #76 in this same thread. See also the first post in order to know more details about the receiver. Pandora can be configured using the integrated web server. I do not know any problem with the iPad app, it works and it is very nice. Where are those negative app reviews?

Regards

The negative reviews are on the App Store. The iControlAv2012 app is rated 2.5 stars only.
post #345 of 1383
I went to Best Buy and the Denon 1913 is on sale for $399.99. I was thinking of going refurbished, but now I'm thinking of going with this AVR. I just hope I'm not making a mistake.
post #346 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

The negative reviews are on the App Store. The iControlAv2012 app is rated 2.5 stars only.

LOL All the 1 star votes are from people who does not read. They are all the people trying to use the iControlAV2012 (app for 2012 receivers) with older receivers. Of course it doesn't work for them!!! iControlAV2 is the equivalent version aimed to older receivers.

The app is amazing, is more a control panel than a virtual remote.

Regards
post #347 of 1383
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Originally Posted by okibcn View Post

LOL All the 1 star votes are from people who does not read. They are all the people trying to use the iControlAV2012 (app for 2012 receivers) with older receivers. Of course it doesn't work for them!!! iControlAV2 is the equivalent version aimed to older receivers.

The app is amazing, is more a control panel than a virtual remote.

Regards

I've looked at the reviews, even saw one that mentions just that - do not judge the iControlAV2 app by people that cannot read.

I have been considering the app but currently have nothing to run it with - no smart phone, no need. I am looking at getting a small off-brand tablet (7-9") to use as a dedicated remote. For those of you using the iControlAV2 app - is this a good idea? Other suggestions?
post #348 of 1383
Anyone using a Dune media streamer with this receiver? I have a Dune HD Smart D1 and all of my other devices work great, but the Dune will not pass through this receiver to my TV.

When I boot up the Dune the HDMI light will come on for about 2 seconds and then turn off. When I plug the Dune directly into my TV it works fine. Plug it back in to the 1222-k and no video or HDMI light. I've replaced the cables numerous times and I've tried all of the HDMI ports on the receiver with no luck.
post #349 of 1383
In your opinion, what is sonic difference I will see from my Onkyo 706?
post #350 of 1383
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Originally Posted by tbooth View Post

Anyone using a Dune media streamer with this receiver? I have a Dune HD Smart D1 and all of my other devices work great, but the Dune will not pass through this receiver to my TV.

When I boot up the Dune the HDMI light will come on for about 2 seconds and then turn off. When I plug the Dune directly into my TV it works fine. Plug it back in to the 1222-k and no video or HDMI light. I've replaced the cables numerous times and I've tried all of the HDMI ports on the receiver with no luck.

Well, that's not good. I am thinking of buying this receiver, but not if the Dune D1 can't sent audio / video since I own one too.
post #351 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Well, that's not good. I am thinking of buying this receiver, but not if the Dune D1 can't sent audio / video since I own one too.

I'm going to call Pioneer after work tomorrow and see if they can offer a solution. I really love this receiver and I don't want to get rid of it because of one device. frown.gif
post #352 of 1383
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Originally Posted by tbooth View Post

I'm going to call Pioneer after work tomorrow and see if they can offer a solution. I really love this receiver and I don't want to get rid of it because of one device. frown.gif

Well, I am hoping I don't get the issue. I just ordered this AVR with a 25c center channel. About 6 months ago, I bought a Pioneer VSX-1022-K, and I didn't have any issues playing movies with it and the Dune D1. Hopefully, I get it soon and I'll test it out.
post #353 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Well, I am hoping I don't get the issue. I just ordered this AVR with a 25c center channel. About 6 months ago, I bought a Pioneer VSX-1022-K, and I didn't have any issues playing movies with it and the Dune D1. Hopefully, I get it soon and I'll test it out.

Nice. I hope you don't have any issues either. Definitely post here when you get everything hooked up. I'm really curious if there is an issue with this receiver and the Dune or if I have a bad piece of equipment somewhere.
post #354 of 1383
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Originally Posted by jlm86 View Post

asap:
About to pull trigger for newegg $549 discount...

Does this "network" functionality stream mkv and mp4 files from remote pc?

or will i still use my PS3 to stream these files?

When I had it hooked up to my router it only played FLAC and MP3's that were in the "My Documents -> Music library" folder. It would not play DIVX, MKV, MP4 or AVI. I moved the system to a different room and am waiting on a 50' ethernet cable to hardwire it to the router now.
post #355 of 1383
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Originally Posted by happy2Lurk View Post

I've looked at the reviews, even saw one that mentions just that - do not judge the iControlAV2 app by people that cannot read.

I have been considering the app but currently have nothing to run it with - no smart phone, no need. I am looking at getting a small off-brand tablet (7-9") to use as a dedicated remote. For those of you using the iControlAV2 app - is this a good idea? Other suggestions?

iControlAV2 doesn't work with our SC-1222k. We use the iControlAV2012. The android version only works in phone size. No optimization for Android tablets AFAIK (EDIT: I was wrong, read post 386 for more info). Get an iPad 1 or 2. It is the best remote you can get and all the brands have apps for iOS.

Regards
Edited by okibcn - 2/25/13 at 9:03pm
post #356 of 1383
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Originally Posted by Rob_63 View Post

When I had it hooked up to my router it only played FLAC and MP3's that were in the "My Documents -> Music library" folder. It would not play DIVX, MKV, MP4 or AVI. I moved the system to a different room and am waiting on a 50' ethernet cable to hardwire it to the router now.

This receiver does NOT support any video files...only FLAC and MP3 audio. It's on their website and in the manual.
post #357 of 1383
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Originally Posted by FarmerBob View Post

As many people are discovering digital is not all that is was made out to be. That's why vinyl is making a big come back. I have always noticed the difference (lack of richness and depth) that is why I am really liking the 1222 for clarity without adjustments. Not too keen on the lack of flexibility though.

Quantization noise is the effect that you can feel in digital music. CD audio is low quality compared to a good analog source. Nonetheless the higher sample rate and the higher bit depth of current digital standards have finally surpassed the analog sources. I am glad to hear you saying that you are really liking the 1222 for clarity, that was exactly why I chose this receiver over the Marantz/Denon option.

Regards
Edited by okibcn - 2/24/13 at 8:35pm
post #358 of 1383
I bought the SC-1222K recently and decided to set it up with the front height speakers since I had a couple of spare bookshelf speakers. However, I can't seem to find any way to test them out to see how this sounds.

The two sources I have feeding into the AVR are a Directv DVR and a PS3. The Directv DVR can only output Dolby Digital and the PS3 is an older "fat" model which cannot bitstream any of the newer HD audio formats because of the older HDMI chip so I have the PS3 set to output LPCM.

When I play a Blu-ray the SC-1222K shows PCM as the input as expected and I can confirm on the PS3 that it is processing the audio track I am expecting (DTS-HD 7.1 for The Hunger Games as an example). When I use iControlAV 2012 and look at the Status, I do not see the front height speakers being used and I cannot change the Listening Mode to anything that I would expect to use the front height speakers such as Dolby PLIIz Height or Neo:X Cinema. In fact when receiving the PCM feed from the PS3 the only choices I seem to be able to make in Listening Mode under Standard are PCM and Stereo.

What determines which Listening Modes are available to be chosen when the receiver is getting a PCM feed? Should I be able to use the front height speakers with a PCM feed from my PS3?
Edited by RH Stepchild - 2/24/13 at 7:19pm
post #359 of 1383
I ordered this from NewEgg tonight... excited to join the club.

Is this receiver going to have enough power to do justice to $1000-1500 worth of L/R/C speakers until I'm able to add external amplification? I haven't really narrowed down my list of candidates yet, but I'm thinking of things like the Swan or Dana stand monitors from The Audio Insider, NHT Classic Threes, Ascend CMT-340 SEs or Sierra-1s, etc.

I would love to be able to get by for a year or so before investing in a power amp without feeling like I've bought more speaker than I can handle.
post #360 of 1383
The 1222 can output 100W/channel all channels driven. I doubt you'll ever hit that much.
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