"OFFICIAL" Pioneer SC-1222-K Owners Thread - Page 3

Maybe we should clarify here what Advanced MCACC does. It corrects the delay, power and phase for each speaker across the full spectrum in order to make any home room as closer as possible to a THX certified environment. It tests 9 frequencies between 63Hz and 16KHz for all the channels. low frequencies below the crossover are equalized as well. Advanced MCACC does a deeper analysis than Audissey XT.

Another different subject is the fact that Pioneer is following the Dolby Labs recommendation of having a single crossover frequency since under 80-100HZ is impossible to hear the source of the soundwave because the wavelenght is several meters long and we can not detect the phase shift between both ears. Having several bass sources is useless unless you have them all in sync with the same spectrum, this is a single signal. A single bass source is better in order to maintain a controlled soundfield in the whole listening environment while requiring less power requirement. This is why THX has a single LFE channel with clear specifications in this direction.

Regards

Do you know if Advanced MCACC has anything like Audyssey's Dynamic EQ to enhance sound at lower volumes? This feature really intrigues me since I have kids and sometimes watch movies while they are sleeping and don't want to turn it up too loud.

Right now, I'm deciding between the SC1222 and a Onkyo 809 since they are both about the same price right now. I think I prefer the sound from the Pio, but I like the Dynamic EQ feature and the 12v triggers in the Onkyo.

GOBLUE,

ALC – In the Auto level control (ALC) mode, this receiver equalizes playback sound levels.
Also, the low and high frequency sounds, dialogs, surround effects, etc., that are difficult to hear when the vol- ume is low are adjusted to be optimal for the volume level. This mode is particularly optimum when listening at night.

Awesome, that is exactly what I was looking for. Is ALC a setting you enable? Also, I know this is a Pio thread, but any opinion on my current 1222 vs 809 dilema?

NO, NO, and NO unless you can get both for the same price. For a thousand times i have said that my pio1222 sounds better than my denon3311 in all aspects (mains, rears, center, and sub; yes, the sub!).

Denon 3311 has Audessey XT. The Onkyo 818 has Audessey XT32. If you can get the 818 for $600 then give it a try if the sub eq worries you. Im very convinced that Audessey XT or lesser version of Audessey XT is nothing from the other world and their "subeq" is just bullsh.....

When you run mcacc the sub also runs its impulse tests; same way as Audessey. I did a test with my Denon. I tried Hulk bluray movie on the cannon and helicopter scene with no audessey and disconected the main speakers to just hear the sub. Then did the same test after audessey calibration and guess what? The sub was almost the same; just bit boomy. I believe it adds some boost somewhere between 20hz-30hz. But I prefer a deep and tight bass and not boomy. On Pioneer the sub is very articulate, tight, deep, and not boooooooomy!

I'm really close to getting the SC1222. I really want the SC61 (mostly for looks), but it is out of my budget. I was looking at a refurb Denon 3311, but that is gone. I'm left with the SC1222 or an Onkyo 809.

Any opinion for me here http://www.avsforum.com/t/1455656/avr-upgrade-opinions-please

I have had the 1222 since last September and I had a question about the wireless capability. Is there a way to use one of the wireless dongles that are so much cheaper than the expensive Pioneer version? I saw that someone was using the TP-Link TL-WN722N 150Mbps and was wondering if you guys had done this and how it was configured?

I haven't tried it because I don't need it.I prefer wired connections. But if someone tried as you specified above; then give it a try; if it does not works then return it.

Yeah, I have run it wired, but kind of wanted to try the Ipad app to control the receiver. I don't like running the 50ft cable from my router to the receiver. I realize I could try it myself, but returning stuff can be a hassle sometimes.

Oh; but right now you have the receiver wired to your avr? If so then all you have to do is to buy a small router. Thats what I did. My main router is at living room; my HT room is at the other side of the house; so I ran a 75 feet Ethernet STP cable from the 1/2" pvc pipe on the wall on the living room to the roof and insert it to the 1/2" pvc pipe on the HT room and problem solved! Just add a small router to the ht room and now I have wireless in the whole room.

So if you have run it wired already then all you need is a router. Netgear works great when adding multiple routers; no hassle configuration; it does it automatically. I have actually 3 routers connected from the same ISP DSL Modem like in a daisy chain... Works great! (One in the living room with the DSL Modem, another in the bedroom and from the bedroom another connection to the third router in the ht room).

Be careful with your wifi network, if you overload it with your TV, Xbox360 and the SC-1222, you´ll probably be overloading the wifi network. I have a similar setup and I have a wifi router dedicated to the AV area with an Apple TV 3, a PC server, the SC-1222K, the Samsung TV, the Xbox 360 slim, the DVR. This way I only have one antenna for all the traffic, wich is much better than having several antennas for the same traffic. This way you can also use the iOS/Android application while controlling and sending AV wirelessy to the AV system..

Regards

The lack of 12v triggers was not enough to make me purchase the 61 over the 1222, especially at New Egg's price! I have external amps which I need to switch on with the receiver, so the lack of a switched outlet or 12v triggers is a bummer for me. I tried a number of things to get around this without success, so I turned to a 'smart' power strip.

This product DID NOT WORK as the auto-on sensitivity was hard wired way too high. Rocketfish 8 Outlet Strip

This product WORKED PERFECTLY as I could tune the auto-on sensitivity to match the 1222's current draw when off. Smart Strip SCG3

Hope this information helps someone else out!

-Mike

I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on this. Was trying to find a SC61 at a reasonable price because of the 12v triggers and amber LEDs, but can't beat the current price on the 1222.

I have a iPhone 4 & a wireless router at home. What else will I need to stream music from my phone or external hard drive?

GOBLUE - Yes ALC is just a mode you can select.

I don't know much about the other AVRs. Sorry i cant help you there. I am very pleased with my 1222. IMHO, it has a very clean and crisp sound. The Pioneer engineers did an excellent job with MCCAC auto calibration. I didn't make any changes to the calibration. Other then trying out each DSP listening mode to find out which one sounded the best to me during each media/signal input playback. the adjustments are available to tweak it as you like. Which is a huge plus. I figure that the Engineers probably spent countless hours testing different speaker configs to get the best overall results. Who knows exactly what the AVRs processing capabilities is in relation to the mic data it is receiving. The end result to me sounds VERY good. Sound quality is very subjective to the individual user. Millage may vary. The bang for the buck is most goodest to me......

Another suggestion to turn on/off additional components - I use a wireless remote controlled outlet. To turn on/off my wireless sub woofer as needed. You can get them at home depot. Some people use them to control Christmas lighting. They just plug into an outlet. Then you can plug in items you want to control. I also use them to control my lighting, wireless router and modem power on/off etc.

If you attach the SC-1222K to the wireless router with a network cable, then you will be able to stream music from iOS/Android, use the remote control App, the Windows tune up software, you will also be able to stream music from a Windows/MacOS/Linux PC and listen to higher quality Pandora and stream radio stations.

The USB interface of the SC-1222K only supports FAT16 and FAT32 file systems, not NTFS or HFS. It is a good practice when you format an external hard drive to be FAT32 for large drives avoiding NTFS or HFS. Filesystem support is always a problem, in the Cars USB, the TV USB... Same consideration should be taken when upgrading the firmware with an USB drive, Use always a FAT16 or FAT32 filesystem.

Regards
Edited by okibcn - 2/8/13 at 11:28am

For those who doesn´t have a 2012 Pioneer amplifier this is the look of the iPad App for the SC-1222K:


And this is the look of the iPhome/Android App:


Or watch this YouTube Video:
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Regards
Edited by okibcn - 2/8/13 at 2:19pm

Hello AV Experts!
I just got my sc-1222 fro NE, and am trying to get it set up for the evening viewing. But I am not getting any sound out of my tv, only the picture.
Setup is as follows:
Cable box>HDMI>Sc-1222 (sat/cable in(hdmi#2))>HDMI out> tv.
I do get sound when I put on my external amp which is connected to the frnt L&R speakers (pre outs). But I don't want to run the amp & pre/pro when just watching the news or some other crap, but would rather the sound go up to the TV & use those speakers for casual listening....

TIA! Murf

What if the router is too far to be connected by cable to the AVR? Is there a wireless adapter or something like that?

Thanks for your help
Always appreciated

going to set mine up tomorrow

javy's bass tweaks?

Yes, there is a wifi usb dongle, the Pioneer AS-WL300. Nonetheless I strongly recomend you to buy another wifi router, or wifi acess point, and use the ethernet port instead. It will do the job and you will be able to use it for other devices at the same time or for another device in the future. You can find a couple of models in the OP a lot cheaper than the usb dongle.

Regards
Edited by okibcn - 2/8/13 at 8:21pm

nice

Strange. There MUST be a configuration option in your Blu-Ray player for the audio output. Check it and disable force PCM output.

I agree, it rocks. Superior technology, superior sound.

I'm cool with it. On the other hand I can't wait to read the Javygonx procedure.