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Originally Posted by xylem View Post

Hi, i just got my sc1222, so far it s OK, i have a major issue/complain, the voice level is very low, i have to pump up the volumn to be able to hear the talking but as soon as some explosion, effect happen, it s way to loud... Any suggestion on how to balance, improvemthe voice level? Pleaae help the newby ;-) , wife is not happy with this 550$ purchase so far. Thx.
did you run MACAA.
post #602 of 1383
Yes...
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Originally Posted by eggie View Post

did you run MACAA.
post #603 of 1383
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Originally Posted by xylem View Post

Hi, i just got my sc1222, so far it s OK, i have a major issue/complain, the voice level is very low, i have to pump up the volumn to be able to hear the talking but as soon as some explosion, effect happen, it s way to loud... Any suggestion on how to balance, improvemthe voice level? Pleaae help the newby ;-) , wife is not happy with this 550$ purchase so far. Thx.


Like eggie stated, did you run MCACC?   look at page 62 in your PDF manual, on the Audio Parameter menu scroll to you get "Dialog E"  (dialog enhancement) this will do what you need.

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Yes...
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Originally Posted by eggie View Post

did you run MACAA.
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Originally Posted by Rob_63 View Post


Like eggie stated, did you run MCACC?   look at page 62 in your PDF manual, on the Audio Parameter menu scroll to you get "Dialog E"  (dialog enhancement) this will do what you need.

Thx, i will try that!
post #605 of 1383
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Originally Posted by xylem View Post

Hi, i just got my sc1222, so far it s OK, i have a major issue/complain, the voice level is very low, ...
(1) Does your sc1222 have an "optimum surround" mode? (My sc1522 does.) If so, try that.

(2) Tilt your center speaker so as to point more directly to where your (or your wife's) ears are.

(3) Put a soft, absorbent material of some sort onto any hard surfaces adjacent to the center speaker. (This is to moderate early sound reflections.)

(4) Turn up the speaker trim volume for the center speaker.

(5) Buy a better center speaker.
post #606 of 1383
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Originally Posted by xylem View Post

Hi, i just got my sc1222, so far it s OK, i have a major issue/complain, the voice level is very low, i have to pump up the volumn to be able to hear the talking but as soon as some explosion, effect happen, it s way to loud... Any suggestion on how to balance, improvemthe voice level? Pleaae help the newby ;-) , wife is not happy with this 550$ purchase so far. Thx.
what does your wife have to do with any of this?
post #607 of 1383
Hey people, I need some suggestions for surround back and heights speakers to go with my setup. I currently have the following:

Front L/R: Monitor 70's
Center: 25C
Surround L/R: Jamo S426 towers
Sub: RW-12D
AVR: SC-1222-K

I am pretty satisfied with the sound, but I am wondering if by adding the surround back L/R and heights L/R would make any improvements for movie and music listening. I was thinking of buying some refurbished Boston Acoustics SoundWare 4.5 speaker from Accessories4Less. http://www.accessories4less.com//make-a-store/item/BOSSOUNDWAREBLK/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-SoundWare-4.5-in-Indoor/Outdoor-Coaxial-Speaker-Each/1.html?c=ss

What do you guys think?
post #608 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Hey people, I need some suggestions for surround back and heights speakers to go with my setup. I currently have the following:

Front L/R: Monitor 70's
Center: 25C
Surround L/R: Jamo S426 towers
Sub: RW-12D
AVR: SC-1222-K

I am pretty satisfied with the sound, but I am wondering if by adding the surround back L/R and heights L/R would make any improvements for movie and music listening. I was thinking of buying some refurbished Boston Acoustics SoundWare 4.5 speaker from Accessories4Less. http://www.accessories4less.com//make-a-store/item/BOSSOUNDWAREBLK/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-SoundWare-4.5-in-Indoor/Outdoor-Coaxial-Speaker-Each/1.html?c=ss

What do you guys think?

Note that with the SC-1222K you can't have surround back and heights at the same time, SC1222 only supports 7 speakers. You'll need the SC-1522 in order to have 9 speakers. I prefer the heights L/R configuration, it is a big improvement since you can feel those sounds coming from the top. This is because it provides z axis control, in other words, a full 3D sound field. Anyway you can test both configurations and check what configuration fits better to your preference.

Regards
post #609 of 1383
Love this receiver so far (replaced a Denon and I'm digging the Pioneer sound profile... I could never get the Denon "perfect").

I am having an issue with Video. My setup is Directv (HR24 DVR) --> SC-1222 --> Epson 8350 Projector --> Fixed screen

One of the things I wanted to take advantage of with this receiver was the video processing. I set my Directv unit to "Native ON" hoping for a pure passthrough to the SC-1222 to let it do all the legwork. I am noticing 2 issues:

1. (Annoyance) It takes FOREVER to change channels and get video. The Directv is for fault for most of this as prior tests show 4-6 seconds with Native ON. It is more in the 7-9 second range now. This may just be a limitation of changing resolutions,etc that I could live with.

2. (Real issue) Very frequently when changing channels (especially going from a DVR recording back to the guide or menu), the picture never comes back. I get this distorted reddish pink pixelated mess. Additional channel changes don't fix anything and I need to shut the Directv off and back on to get it back to normal. Has anyone else had this issue? When I leave it at 1080i with Native OFF everything works great. It's just strange that the other option doesn't seem to be an option.

Thanks -
post #610 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

What do you guys think?
I don't think it's terribly important exactly what you get. Those BA look okay. I have dipoles for both back surrounds and height speakers, which I think work fine, but I think I've seen direct recommended for the heights, so that should be okay, too.
post #611 of 1383
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Originally Posted by mgorsk02 View Post

2. (Real issue) Very frequently when changing channels (especially going from a DVR recording back to the guide or menu), the picture never comes back. I get this distorted reddish pink pixelated mess. Additional channel changes don't fix anything and I need to shut the Directv off and back on to get it back to normal. Has anyone else had this issue? When I leave it at 1080i with Native OFF everything works great. It's just strange that the other option doesn't seem to be an option.

Thanks -

I'm having this exact same problem with my SC-65. It worked fine for 24 hours, but last night I got this pink/red "mess" you describe. I think it must be an HDCP handshake issue, but I haven't had much time to troubleshoot. I hooked my source directly to my display, and the problem went away, so I know it is being introduced by the receiver. I hope I can find some combination of cables and settings that eliminate the problem.
post #612 of 1383
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Originally Posted by okibcn View Post

Note that with the SC-1222K you can't have surround back and heights at the same time, SC1222 only supports 7 speakers. You'll need the SC-1522 in order to have 9 speakers. I prefer the heights L/R configuration, it is a big improvement since you can feel those sounds coming from the top. This is because it provides z axis control, in other words, a full 3D sound field. Anyway you can test both configurations and check what configuration fits better to your preference.

Regards

Thanks guys. I'll give the heights a try. I'll have to decide which speakers to buy.
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Originally Posted by GregLee View Post

I don't think it's terribly important exactly what you get. Those BA look okay. I have dipoles for both back surrounds and height speakers, which I think work fine, but I think I've seen direct recommended for the heights, so that should be okay, too.
post #613 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GregLee View Post

I don't think it's terribly important exactly what you get. Those BA look okay. I have dipoles for both back surrounds and height speakers, which I think work fine, but I think I've seen direct recommended for the heights, so that should be okay, too.

I have a similar question. My current setup is 5.1 . My couch is against wall and I have Polk FXi A6 on wall as surrounds. Will I benefit by adding sides on both sides of couch and change FXi's to rear. I was leaning towards the Polk Monitor 75T as sides?

Thx
post #614 of 1383
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Originally Posted by bad1550 View Post

My couch is against wall and I have Polk FXi A6 on wall as surrounds. Will I benefit by adding sides on both sides of couch and change FXi's to rear.
I really don't know. It's sort of nice in theory having a bipole/dipole switch -- my CSW front height speakers are like that, but I was not able to decide which sounded better, dipole or bipole. With your couch against the wall, I guess dipoles might be preferable for back surrounds, since they should avoid localization better.
post #615 of 1383
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Originally Posted by mgorsk02 View Post

1. (Annoyance) It takes FOREVER to change channels and get video. The Directv is for fault for most of this as prior tests show 4-6 seconds with Native ON. It is more in the 7-9 second range now. This may just be a limitation of changing resolutions,etc that I could live with.

2. (Real issue) Very frequently when changing channels (especially going from a DVR recording back to the guide or menu), the picture never comes back. I get this distorted reddish pink pixelated mess. Additional channel changes don't fix anything and I need to shut the Directv off and back on to get it back to normal. Has anyone else had this issue? When I leave it at 1080i with Native OFF everything works great. It's just strange that the other option doesn't seem to be an option.

Thanks -


You need to SET resolution/quality in Directv receiver. I have a genie and I've set output to 1080i, this will fix the channel change lag and also the pink screen issue...because there is no HDMI handshake each time you change a channel.
post #616 of 1383
maybe someone can help, with my onyko 180 i was able to play netflix movies in 5.1, with the sc-1222 netflix plays in 2 ch stereo.
post #617 of 1383
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Originally Posted by eggie View Post

maybe someone can help, with my onyko 180 i was able to play netflix movies in 5.1, with the sc-1222 netflix plays in 2 ch stereo.

SC-1222K does not have any video player. Which player are you using? How are you connecting it to the SC-1222K?

Regards
post #618 of 1383
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Originally Posted by okibcn View Post

SC-1222K does not have any video player. Which player are you using? How are you connecting it to the SC-1222K?

Regards
stream from roku box.
post #619 of 1383
I just finished changing some setting in my SC-1222-k to see if I can improve the bass, and it improved it a little bit. It sounds with more base. However, if I make my L / R to LARGE I get too much lol. I'm going to try to host the PDF file with the instructions and see if anyone wants to try it out.


Update: Here's the PDF file with the EQ settings.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcvouknssbseg0m/MCACC_SUB_EQ_1_3.pdf

This was sent to me by AVSForum member bad1550. Thank you.

The credit for making this " how to " goes to Javygonx.
Edited by GusGus748s - 3/11/13 at 6:13pm
post #620 of 1383
is there a way to do a factory reset.
post #621 of 1383
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Originally Posted by xylem View Post

Hi, i just got my sc1222, so far it s OK, i have a major issue/complain, the voice level is very low, i have to pump up the volumn to be able to hear the talking but as soon as some explosion, effect happen, it s way to loud... Any suggestion on how to balance, improvemthe voice level? Pleaae help the newby ;-) , wife is not happy with this 550$ purchase so far. Thx.
The MCACC is worthless for me. And without it everything is just great. I am getting the most solid clean bottom out of my mains and really haven't needed to turn on my subs. But also good clean crisp everything else too. The Virtual settings in the Audio Parameter area do some great things. I know what you are saying about the vocals. There are settings that bring them out. A couple that I stumbled on REALLY bring them out. I figured that it's going to take some time to play with all audio settings and see what does what. And I fear that's what you'll have to do also. ALC seems to be a good one. Then there is the "audio parameter" settings. So with this unit there are ton of things you can do to "finesse/tailor" the sound. But just as many to really mess it up. "Trial by Fire" and bombs, explosions, air craft flyovers, spaceships colliding are my mantra!

I have found just leaving it alone (not setting MCACC) and sifting through the audio settings has been good enough.

. . . fb
post #622 of 1383
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Originally Posted by eggie View Post

is there a way to do a factory reset.

If you look at page 9 PAGE 68 on the top left corner of the Manual, you'll see the directions on how to do factory reset.

Here's the link where you can download the manual.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/SC-1222-K?tab=manuals
Edited by GusGus748s - 3/12/13 at 2:18am
post #623 of 1383
So I'm in a bit of a pickle. I was helping an old lady setup her 5.1 system and she has a Pioneer vsx-919ah. Now coming from an Onkyo receiver, this was really foreign to me and I got lost in a lot of the terminology. I know this isn't the best thread for my questions but I'm hoping there is a lot of overlap in the features and nomenclature so you guys could provide some general tips.

The main issue is that I couldn't get the back speakers to work right, the volume was way too low, even with a +5 db enhancement, it was practically inaudible. Changing some of the listening modes to action, or non multichannel modes that incorporate the rears actually make them more audible but I'd rather have a more faithful reproduction of sound for her.

She has a bluray player and Cable box connected, but through both sources I couldn't get a Dolby Digital signal, it was always PLII-x. Unfortunately she didn't have blurays but I used a Heat dvd and still the same result. I'll try a bluray next time but I don't think it will make a difference (Heat is discrete 5.1 right?).

Long story short, what are the exact settings I should use so she gets non colorized listening modes (ALC/Auto Surround, etc). Also, is there no on screen display? And lastly, can I use any mic (like the one with my Onkyo receiver) to setup her Audyssey equivalent equalizer? Thanks in advance.

Edit: I should clarify that I have the surrounds connected to Surround and NOT surround backs, yet it still says DD + PLIIx instead of Dolby Digital.
Edited by 1080pee - 3/11/13 at 10:58pm
post #624 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

If you look at page 9 on the top left corner of the Manual, you'll see the directions on how to do factory reset.

Here's the link where you can download the manual.

httip://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/SC-1222-K?tab=manuals
i checked page 9 its not there
post #625 of 1383
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Originally Posted by eggie View Post

i checked page 9 its not there

Sorry, wrong page. It's page 68 top left corner.
post #626 of 1383
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Sorry, wrong page. It's page 68 top left corner.
got it thank you.
post #627 of 1383
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Originally Posted by eggie View Post

got it thank you.

No problem!
post #628 of 1383
My SC-1222 is quite a distance from my Cable Modem and Router. I've seen the suggestions on the front page for hooking this up wirelessly... anyone try an Apple Airport Express? I have an extra one I can move near the SC-1222. Any reason this wouldn't work? It is one of the newer ones with a single LAN connection.
post #629 of 1383
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Originally Posted by mgorsk02 View Post

My SC-1222 is quite a distance from my Cable Modem and Router. I've seen the suggestions on the front page for hooking this up wirelessly... anyone try an Apple Airport Express? I have an extra one I can move near the SC-1222. Any reason this wouldn't work? It is one of the newer ones with a single LAN connection.

Get a Powerline networking kit...it's much better than going wireless.
post #630 of 1383
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Originally Posted by javygonx View Post

I have your solution. Check your inbox and try that setup. Them post your results.
I got your PDF, thanks! I tried out your advice & it works great on my SC-1526. Pumped the bass right up. I was watching the train crash in Super 8 & the girlfriend said it was shaking the china cabinet upstairs. Just what I wanted.
If it wasn't for your PDF, I would never had thought of going into the EQ settings. I've been in the hobby for quite some time, but my old receiver, an HK AVR-325, doesn't have all the settings new AVRs have & it it can get overwhelming without someone to explain things.
You mentioned that you'll be adding to it or creating new ones. I look forward to reading them.
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