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post #661 of 905
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Originally Posted by Ratified View Post

Having a small issue with my 1222 and a HDCP error. The avr works great other than this small issue I cant seem to fix/solve. When listening to Pandora, with my Samsung plasma tv off, the avr flashes HDCP error, but if I have the tv on, all is fine. Sometimes I listen to Pandora for extended periods, and rather not leave on the tv for fear of burn-in from the Pandora OSD. Any ideas?
Does your tv have an option for audio only where it will shut the screen off?
post #662 of 905
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Originally Posted by tom67 View Post

Looking to pick up a 1222 and need some information. I presently have a seven-year-old Yamaha RX V659 And a 5.1 Klipsch set up for home theater. However I am a bit of the purist for music. My simple solution is to have a set of paradigms On the B speaker terminals. Which i prefer for music. I Simply switch the receiver to stereo And engage the b speakers. I am then listening to stereo only with only the addition of the sub woofer. I can't see how you accomplish that with the 1222 Or most of the new receivers for that matter. I have to believe there is a way to do that. It appears the 1222 and most other new receivers Have only front presence speakers And/or zone 2 Which do not engage the subwoofer.

You could attach a cable to the zone 2 sub output and manually switch them when needed. Not a perfect solution, but relatively cheap. There is probably an A/B switch available to ease the changeover.
post #663 of 905
I had the HDCP error once. It happened when I was trying to use my Dune media player. All I did was use my TV remote changed from HDMI 1 to a different input and after that I switched back to HDMI 1 and it starter working again. I don't use my TV when I'm using pandora I use the iContol app.
post #664 of 905
I had the HDCP error once. It happened when I was trying to use my Dune media player. All I did was use my TV remote changed from HDMI 1 to a different input and after that I switched back to HDMI 1 and it starter working again. I don't use my TV when I'm using pandora I use the iContol app.
post #665 of 905
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Originally Posted by LNEWoLF View Post

Shock - What do you mean by a basic calibration?. By ear, spl meter, MCACC or used "the force"

While playing your blu ray movie. Look at the front panel on the AVR. Does it display all the speakers in your setup, including the sub.

Also is the sub still turned on in settings menu.

I did a quick MCACC calibration with the mic just to get some basic levels. Front of the AVR does show all speakers present and accounted for. The sub shows ON or YES in the settings menu for the Pioneer.
post #666 of 905
Ok, maybe I wasnt clear with my question. If I turn on my AVR using either the remote or the icontrol app and not my tv, I get the HDCP error. If I turn on the tv with, before, or after the AVR, I dont get the HDCP error. So, tv on no error; tv off hdcp error. Any ideas? Its a minor nuance.
post #667 of 905
Shock - I would recomend doing a complete MCACC. That will give you a good base to begin with. Try out the different DSP modes to see if you find one to your liking. If not you can tweak from there.

You might want to check this setting also.

LFE
Some audio sources include ultra-low bass tones. Set the LFE attenu- ator as necessary to prevent the ultra-low bass tones from distorting the sound from the speakers.
The LFE is not limited when set to 0 dB, which is the recommended value. When set to –5 dB, –10 dB, –15 dB or –20 dB, the LFE is limited by the respective degree. When OFF is selected, no sound is output from the LFE channel.

c OFF/ –20dB/ –15dB/ –10dB/ –5dB/ 0dB d Default: 0dB
post #668 of 905
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Originally Posted by Ratified View Post

Ok, maybe I wasnt clear with my question. If I turn on my AVR using either the remote or the icontrol app and not my tv, I get the HDCP error. If I turn on the tv with, before, or after the AVR, I dont get the HDCP error. So, tv on no error; tv off hdcp error. Any ideas? Its a minor nuance.

Have you tried to connect the receiver to another HDMI input in your TV? I have also a Samsung TV and I never got a HDCP error. That error happens when the destination device doesn't have a valid DHCP key.

Ensure you have the latest firmware in both the TV and the receiver.

Regards
post #669 of 905
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Originally Posted by okibcn View Post

Have you tried to connect the receiver to another HDMI input in your TV? I have also a Samsung TV and I never got a HDCP error. That error happens when the destination device doesn't have a valid DHCP key.

Ensure you have the latest firmware in both the TV and the receiver.

Regards


I only get the error when the tv is not on. When the tv is on, everything works fine without any errors!
post #670 of 905
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Originally Posted by Ratified View Post

I only get the error when the tv is not on. When the tv is on, everything works fine without any errors!

That's weird. Have you tried a different HDMI cable? Does your TV have a setting to turn on automatically when you turn on your AVR? I don't remember what it is called, but if it does try disabling that feature.
post #671 of 905
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post #672 of 905
Has anyone tried connecting a CD player to the 1222 via optical? I have an Onkyo C-S5VL SACD player that I have been running via analog connection for the last month or two since I bought this receiver. I decided to try and connect the CD player via optical tonight but when I do I get no sound. I have run through the input settings several times, the CD player is assigned to the OPT-1 and no other devices are assigned to this input. I've tried both OPT-1 and OPT-2 but no sound. If I plug the RCA cables back in it works fine...am I missing a setting to get the optical connection to work?
post #673 of 905
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Originally Posted by LNEWoLF View Post

Shock - I would recomend doing a complete MCACC. That will give you a good base to begin with. Try out the different DSP modes to see if you find one to your liking. If not you can tweak from there.

You might want to check this setting also.

LFE
Some audio sources include ultra-low bass tones. Set the LFE attenu- ator as necessary to prevent the ultra-low bass tones from distorting the sound from the speakers.
The LFE is not limited when set to 0 dB, which is the recommended value. When set to –5 dB, –10 dB, –15 dB or –20 dB, the LFE is limited by the respective degree. When OFF is selected, no sound is output from the LFE channel.

c OFF/ –20dB/ –15dB/ –10dB/ –5dB/ 0dB d Default: 0dB

Ok, I just did a full auto MCACC again. For the sub, it is a Klipsch RW-12d. It had been working great with everything. Very powerful. So the results of the MCACC set the sub at -6 with the volume on the sub itself was set to -10.

Previous MCACC setting was -9 with the sub volume set to -15 and it was tight and not to over the top.

With the new settings, it is better on Blu-Rays. When using the BR player to play Stargate SG-1 (Son and I are running through the series again) I need to bump the volume on the sub to -5 to get about to where I was before. It sounds OK, but nowhere near as powerful as it was.

Could it be the amp itself? I did hook up my old HSU STF-2 sub to rule out the Klipsch and the results were the same. So the sub itself seems OK.

I haven't really checked out the manual just yet as it had been working fine. I will dive in this weekend/tonight. I don't know what DSP mode the AVR is set to either. I will check.

I am going to try your suggestions to see what happens. Thanks for the advice!
post #674 of 905
I just got this receiver. It is replacing a HK avr525 from 2002. First thing I have noticed is how much cooler this receiver runs. I am kind of overwhelmed by all of the features this receiver has. It will take a while to learn everything about it. I downloaded the pdf to my tablet to help out. Any quick tips would be appreciated.

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post #675 of 905
Shock - Good to hear that the sub is working. Seems after running the MCACC calibration you have some improvements. Just not to your liking yet. If i am understanding your post correctly. It appears you would like the sub to be more pronounced. If you look back a page or two. There is a post that contains a pdf file tweak to improve your sub. The gentleman spent countless hours perfecting it and continues to improve it. His name is javygonx.

Just curious, you stated you hadnt read the manual yet. Per Pioneer support. When you perform the MCACC calibration. Its best to place the calibration mic on a tripod at the seated postion. Centered on your ear. Both vertically and horizonitally. Also the hole in the center of the mic should be pointed directly at the ceiling at a level position. Not tilted in any direction. you can use a buble level to get it exact. When performing the MCACC, it should be quiet in the room/house. Its best if no one is in the room near the speakers while the measurements are takin. Also make sure there are no additional items/objects in the room that are not normally positioned in the room.

Hope it helps. I cant help too much with the tweaking. I didnt do much tweaking to my setup. Other than turining on/off various settings. The MCACC calibration did a very good job at setting my room up. All I had to do was to select the DSP mode that was too my liking. For bluray movies/SACD's I bitsteam the signal to the AVR for processing and select the optimum automajic dsp setting. For 2 channel music, I like Dolby Pro Logic II.

There is allot of good/helpful people here on AVS. I'm sure someone will be along with some additional sugestions shortly.
post #676 of 905
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Originally Posted by tunafish24 View Post

You need to SET resolution/quality in Directv receiver. I have a genie and I've set output to 1080i, this will fix the channel change lag and also the pink screen issue...because there is no HDMI handshake each time you change a channel.

Thanks to this poster. This resolved the same issue for me. I turned native off and set resolution as 1080p. Is there a reason you chose 1080i over 1080p? In any case, thanks much for the advice.

BTW: I am loving this receiver. I replaced a 12 yr old bose acoustimass 6 and onkyo receiver setup. Got the receiver along with a full set of the Pioneer "Andrew Jones" speakers (FS-22's, B-22's, CS-22 and SW-8). Wow...what a difference. It has reawakened the audiophile that has lain dormant for 15+ yrs.
post #677 of 905
Has anyone been able to get a signal out of the DVR/BDR out? I'm trying to hook it to a separate amp & I get nothng.
post #678 of 905
UPDATE: STREAMING MUSIC FROM WINDOWS 7 PC.

So, I read the manual, and from what I read it stated that you "CAN" stream music from your PC as long as you create shares with Windows Media Player. I have a Win 7 PC, with Windows Media Player 12. I created a folder "MUSIC" with music files, and created a share by using the following steps:

1) Open Windows Media Player
2) Left Click on FILE, top left corner
3) HIGHLIGHT Manage Libraries
4) Left Click on MUSIC

A small window will pop up.

5) Click on ADD

Another window will pop up.

6) Locate your MUSIC FOLDER
7) HIGHLIGHT your FOLDER
8) Left Click on INCLUDE FOLDER

Now, your SC-1222-K should be able to have access to your MUSIC folder PC, and it should play your music. If you can see your music files, but your AVR won't play your music file when you select them, THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THE FOLLOWING:

1) Open Control Panel
2) Under Network and Internet click on CHOOSE HOMEGROUP AND SHARING OPTIONS.

NOTE: I do not have HOMEGROUP enable since I do not use it. However, some of you may have this enable, which should be fine.

3) Click on CHANGE ADVANCED SHARING SETTINGS
4) Under the 4th option MEDIA STREAMING has to be enabled or set to ON.

Once you enable / turn on Media Streaming, a small window should appear, which should have all of your devices connected to your network. Your SC-1222-K should appear in this window.

Make sure that the SC-1222-K permission is set to "ALLOWED"

After you complete these steps you will be able to access and play your music files. I hope this helps everyone else who had issues like I did.

HERE ARE SOME PICTURES. FOR THOSE OF US WHO DO BETTER BY VISUALIZING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO DO:

THESE PICS ARE FOR CREATING THE MUSIC SHARE FOLDER




THESE PICS ARE FOR TURNING ON MEDIA SHARE










Note: I am still working on being able to access my UnRaid server from the SC-1222-K. It appears that I will have to install a Media Server Plugin in order to accomplish this. If I am successful, I will post back with directions!
Edited by GusGus748s - 3/18/13 at 10:13am
post #679 of 905
once i run MACAA can i go to manual MACAA and turn up the center ch, or would that throw off my settings.
post #680 of 905
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Originally Posted by eggie View Post

once i run MACAA can i go to manual MACAA and turn up the center ch, or would that throw off my settings.

You can turn it up as much as you want!
post #681 of 905
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Originally Posted by eggie View Post

once i run MACAA can i go to manual MACAA and turn up the center ch, or would that throw off my settings.

I like to use the android app and turn up the dialogue depending on the movie/source. Some movies scream at you and other want to whisper.
post #682 of 905
After a long wait on my new entertainment cabinet, will be finally setting up my SC-1222-K this weekend. Have Polk RTi a5's for fronts, CSi A6 center and Klipsch RW-12d subwoofer (will be adding FXia4's surrounds when funds materialize). As a starting point, I'll be using Javygonx's MCACC guide.

GusGus748s or others with the Klipsch RW-12d sub, what did you use as your starting settings on the sub; gain and mode specifically??

Thanks,

habe
post #683 of 905
Just installed Sony Sideview app on my Ipad and, to my surprise, it works with the 1222 even without any Sony device. I can stream music from my server to the 1222 using the app. It also turns on the receiver. The same can be done with Airplay but I had few problems with break-ups playing music.
post #684 of 905
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Originally Posted by habe View Post

After a long wait on my new entertainment cabinet, will be finally setting up my SC-1222-K this weekend. Have Polk RTi a5's for fronts, CSi A6 center and Klipsch RW-12d subwoofer (will be adding FXia4's surrounds when funds materialize). As a starting point, I'll be using Javygonx's MCACC guide.

GusGus748s or others with the Klipsch RW-12d sub, what did you use as your starting settings on the sub; gain and mode specifically??

Thanks,

habe

I used to have my sub set at Punch, xover at 120 hz, and gain at -15. Everything is the same now, but went from Puch to Depth.

I also followed the instructions on the PDF file for improving bass.
post #685 of 905
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I used to have my sub set at Punch, xover at 120 hz, and gain at -15. Everything is the same now, but went from Puch to Depth.

I also followed the instructions on the PDF file for improving bass.

Thanks.

I read in the Klipsch RW-12d measurement thread that depth was the flattest measured setting, at least in the testers room...

Question, no dialog/voice issues out of your center channel with the xover @120hz?

habe
post #686 of 905
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Originally Posted by habe View Post

Thanks.

I read in the Klipsch RW-12d measurement thread that depth was the flattest measured setting, at least in the testers room...

Question, no dialog/voice issues out of your center channel with the xover @120hz?

habe

Xover in the AVR is set to 80hz.
post #687 of 905
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Xover in the AVR is set to 80hz.

Thanks..... Senior moment there!

habe
post #688 of 905
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

UPDATE: STREAMING MUSIC FROM WINDOWS 7 PC.

. . . Note: I am still working on being able to access my UnRaid server from the SC-1222-K. It appears that I will have to install a Media Server Plugin in order to accomplish this. If I am successful, I will post back with directions!

If the 1222 was a true DLNA device all this would not be necessary. My LG BD390 (old model) sees every shared anything on my LAN. From my Mac, PC, Mac Laptop, two drives connected to a R6300 router, even the card reader on the Epson Printer in the main house. This could easily be fixed with a FW update and I cross my fingers that they will. I get more and better use in this aspect from a several year old, first gen, Blu-ray player than the 1222. Matter of fact it sees a little too much.
post #689 of 905
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Originally Posted by FarmerBob View Post

If the 1222 was a true DLNA device all this would not be necessary. My LG BD390 (old model) sees every shared anything on my LAN. From my Mac, PC, Mac Laptop, two drives connected to a R6300 router, even the card reader on the Epson Printer in the main house. This could easily be fixed with a FW update and I cross my fingers that they will. I get more and better use in this aspect from a several year old, first gen, Blu-ray player than the 1222. Matter of fact it sees a little too much.

I agree with you on this matter. However, I think about the DLNA feature as icing on the cake. I don't really need it, but it would be nice to have it.

At the moment I am trying to decide if I am going to buy another drive to set it as cache drive and install the DLNA server there. Or just install the DLNA server in the flash boot drive. It might be a couple more days before I can update the status on this.
post #690 of 905
I've been lurking on this site for quite some time but this is my first post. I just ordered the Pio sc-1222k from NE for $529. It will be at my door sometime today. Just wanted to say thanks to all the people who have commented on their experiences with this receiver as that is what ultimately sold me on this particular model. For years, I've just been using a basic HTiB, and it suited my needs just fine. But recently, I had some excellent condition Mirage vintage speakers basically fall into my lap......so that meant I was going to need a real AVR to start building a new system from the ground up. Up until I discovered this site, I had been eyeing the Denon 1913, which *was* the top end of my budget for an AVR. But then I started hearing great things about the Pio and found this site to be a wealth of information. When the receiver arrives and I get everything set up, I'll post my thoughts. But for now, I just wanted to introduce myself as a new Pio owner and say thanks to all for taking the time to post their experiences with the receiver.

Also, for the people crying non-stop about the universal crossover...two points I couldn't resist making. 1. nobody twisted your arm. You knew it was that way BEFORE purchasing.....if you need to set every speaker at a different crossover point, get a different receiver that allows you to do so. 2. 95% chance the speakers you're using with the receiver are passive anyway and will almost certainly have an internal crossover inside the speaker that will filter the inappropriate frequencies and power overages ANYWAY.....so set the freaking Universal X-over however you want and stop freaking out. This is hardly the end of the world. Sorry, had to get that off my chest.
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