Originally Posted by adone36
I find it humorous what you read "about plasma" makes you paranoid and the things you read "about lcd/led" do not drive you completely insane.
The thing is, frankly, the things you read about LCD/LED are really only things that A/V enthusiasts/videophiles notice and care about. I'm not an A/V guy. Never have been, never will be. Will never buy high end gear, will never pay for professional calibrations and so on. So I don't notice or care much about things like motion blur, viewing angles (I sit directly in front of the TV and seldom have more than a couple people over as my place is small), I don't do any competitive gaming so I don't care about input lag etc.
Plasmas on the other hand have some tendency to have issues with IR and buzzing which are things any regular Joe Six Pack can notice and be annoyed by. In fact, with IR they're probably more likely to have issues as they don't know about it and are more likely to leave the TV on ESPN or a Kids network all day every day etc. (vs. the A/V enthusiasts who mainly watch Blurays) and then be shocked to see the logos when they watch something else. If you get a buzzer, it's hard not to notice it in bright quiet scenes and so on.
So some of the potential draw backs of plasmas are things that can lead to problems for the average joe, where as the drawbacks of LED/LCD are really things that really only apply to videophiles, serious gamers etc.
To me plasmas are really just for the a/v enthusiasts who want to get as close as possible to reference picture. For the other 99% of the public who doesn't care that much about the nuances of PQ and LED/LCD is probably a better fit since they wouldn't really care about the PQ stuff on the plasma, but could be annoyed by IR, buzz, not performing as well in a bright room (average person is less likely to have a dedicated room with proper light control etc.). And this is bearing out in the market to with Pioneer getting out of the business, Panny cutting back by closing factories and getting rid of the lower level models in 2013. They're realizing there is a market for plasma. But it's the niche of a/v enthusiasts who go for higher end gear so there's not much need to put out lower end models any more as people looking to spend a grand or less on a TV probably don't care about top notch PQ and are more drawn to the slimmer LED and LCDs with the brighter screens on the show floor.
Now one could say such discussion isn't relevant here since this is a site for a/v enthusiasts. But by all the basic questions that get posted it's clear plenty of people are coming hear researching TVs who aren't informed videophiles. So when offering advice people need to be a bit more open about the drawbacks of each technology and how plasma isn't right for everyone depending on their usages and preferences, and less just blind promotion of plasmas by fans who are biased and probably worried about plasma dying off as sells dwindle and more companies cut back on models or get out of the plasma business all together.
Before recommending plasmas people need to be finding out if the person asking is:
1. A videophile type or not.
2. What their uses are. Namely whether they'll have hours and hours of repeated static images.
3. Are they willing to change their usages to limit IR?
Regardless of the answer to number 1, plasma just isn't worth the headache if a person leaves the TV on ESPN or CNN or a kid's network for 8+ hours every day, or plays the same video game for several hours every night. Number 3 is up to the individual. For me, my usages will dictate the TV I buy, not the other way around. I want to have ESPN on in the background all day when working at home, or to watch college sports all day on the weekend etc. with no worries. I've tried plasma twice and had stubborn IR problems (and loud buzzing in bright scenes) both times. My usages are atypical though as I only watch a couple channels and pretty much always have the TV on when at home. I do watch some movies, play some games etc. But not enough that my IR gets cleared up and isn't visible in bright scenes (hockey ice, basketball court etc.). I'm also not willing to butcher material with zoom etc. Plus I want to see the tickers as watching scores, news updates etc. is half the point of having ESPN or CNN on in the background. So despite the better PQ, plasma just isn't ideal for someone like me.
People make too light of how big a problem stubborn IR still is if you have those kind of usages--mainly because those aren't normal usages and most people mix up content enough to make any IR temporary rather than stubborn. But people need to be cautious in recommending plasma to people who's usages aren't ideal for it. Otherwise you just end up with people like me buying them and returning them with complaints of IR and buzzing etc. and thus sending a message to the manufacture that some consumers just aren't happy with these flaws of the technology. Combine that with the greater sales of LED/LCD sets and there's not much incentive for them to do more than put out smaller runs of higher end/higher cost models for the videophiles.Edited by dmaul1114 - 2/7/13 at 2:23pm