Originally Posted by cel4145
Originally Posted by dat56
. . . everytime I see a question asked from a Bose owner or concerning Bose, objectivity, respect and fairness all get thrown out the window. It just gets turned into a schoolyard-level Bose-bash, which seems to be what some people here live for.
Oh, give us a break. This is all about feeling better about your own speakers and being unable to resolve the conflict of liking Bose when reason says you shouldn't and the very large majority of other audio enthusiasts don't. If your own peculiar tastes didn't cause you to like Bose speakers, you wouldn't be posting in this thread at all.
Once you deal with your Bose speaker owner inadequacy issues, by accepting that the very large majority of audio enthusiasts think your Bose speaker suck for legitimate reasons of being poorly designed and over-priced, and by accepting that many audio enthusiasts feel they need to vehemently express their opinions about it because the public is continually being fleeced by Bose corp marketing, then you won't feel the need to champion Bose any more. After all, the little bit of noise being raised here on AVS is nothing in comparison to how the public is being snowed with advertising from Bose.
Please spare me the psychoanalysis. You can think whatever you want of Bose and their products. I just wish you and others here would stop using Bose-related threads as a jump-off point for your indoctrination programs. Just answer their questions. Is that too much to ask?
Originally Posted by Elihawk
Bill is a pretty objective guy and like me, he is a scientist. I am a biologist, he is an audioscientist and often jumps in when statements have not or cannot be back up with the indisputable- science! He doesn't just do that in Bose threads and have challenged me several times when I have misspoke!
As for the Bose cubes, in this thread the ridiculous claim was made that the enclosure somehow enhances the sq of the system- and you are "calling out" Bill for pointing that out? The 901s measure poorly, the Bose cubes get an f in the measurable science! But, hey, as long as you like them....
I'm not sure what specifically you are talking about. The smaller the enclosure, the higher the Q of any resonances will be. The smaller the enclosure, the less problems there will be with edge diffraction. The smaller the enclosure, the more flexibility in placement there is. I don't see anything to contest about these statements.
"901's measure poorly" You can throw that out there if you want, totally unsubstantiated, and I will take it for just that. What measurements?...of what? Most of their output is directed towards the wall behind them. Measuring that type of speaker is always difficult and many would argue that it's pointless. The 901 was designed takeng into consideration what was known of psychoacoustics or how humans hear and perceive sound. Most speakers are made to measure well in an anechoic chamber with a directional mic one meter in front of the driver; 901's were made to sound like real music. How do you listen to music? In an anechoic chamber or in a real living space with walls and furniture?
You all want to be vocal about your science...Bose has more MIT trained engineers on staff than probably any audio manufacturer. They also plow much revenue back into basic R&D. They may know more about the science of audio than anyone here ever thought about.
Originally Posted by shadyJ
I would add that there might be a place for acoustimass type cubes, a single driver small speaker, for when space and appearance is a big concern. They couldn't sound worse than built-in TV speakers anyway. The problem is when you charge more than $5 for them, but that is more of a problem for the uninformed, those who throw down lots of money without doing any homework on what their buying. Suckers deserve to be parted from their money, so Bose doesn't bother me at all. What's cool is Amar Bose giving a billion to MIT, effectively taking money from the rubes and giving it to intelligent people, kinda like an intellectual Robin Hood. I can get behind that.
rubes? More insults. Impressive.
Originally Posted by enerlevel
Sorry for my late reply,
First of all I want the dual cubes because they are louder than the single ones. When I hear music on 2ch mode, I do feel as if I need a little more volume. I heard the AM5 in a store and compared it to the AM3. It is for sure louder. I have heard many saying that the dual cubes are for imaging purpose however I can clearly tell that it is louder for sure.
Calling bose will not help because they clearly tell u not to mix and match the systems.
You can play with the imaging more with the dual cubes, but you are correct: they will play louder, probably 3-6dB over most of the audible range.