Originally Posted by Jack Arnott
Exactly! Which is why I am disappointed that he has not listened to them.
Obviously not everyone hears things the way that I do. (Or I would sell a lot more drivers, and others would sell a lot less.)
And there are lots of other factors to consider. But I would like him to listen to them and then go "meh".
Obviously he has reasons for liking the 360.
But when asked early on, I stressed that frequency response is not what I think sets BMS apart.
And that is specifically the only thing Erich is looking at.
I'm not only looking at just the frequency response. As mentioned, I've listened to them play the same thing over and over....and over. The test signal is music to my ears.
This is the best way for me to hear the same exact thing through every model. I can't compare them with music unless the same exact designer built the same exact speaker that shows the same exact response curve. That's going to be nearly impossible. But from what I have heard, and taking into account the frequency response, they are extremely close. Too close for me to lose sleep.
There is a disagreement though: I have no reason for liking any of them over the next (and I don't). The 360 was not my baby. That was mostly the work of someone far smarter than me. I just helped make them available, and don't push them at all. They work great just like the DE250, so we're using them. It's that simple.
All I really care about is that the DIY Community has access to some great speakers at great prices. The speaker could use the BMS, the B&C, Faital Pro, Celestion.......whatever. There's no brand loyalty here. Look at the site and you'll see speakers using different waveguides, tweeters, woofers from all different manufacturers. The 360 is used a lot simply because the original DE250 is a well known and very good driver.
In the end, I'll help get any speaker made up with any part that people want to use (as long as it's good). Heck, I'm helping with this group buy! So to think there is bias from me will hold no water at all. I'm not bashing any of these and have clearly said they are all very good. I personally don't care which is used by the person building the speaker.
I really shouldn't have tested them or given an opinion. But you have to admit, it's quite strange when people get a little bent that someone said "These are all great and pretty much sound the same".
Hopefully no one thought another B&C "clone" by a well known manufacturer was going to split atoms or something? BMS didn't start from the ground up to create something that spanks the DE250. They're designed to be nearly identical.....which they are.
Is there a difference? Yes.
Is there a big difference? No.
Will either make or break a speaker? No.
Do I have things to package up? Yes.Edited by Erich H - 4/6/13 at 2:35pm