Originally Posted by Jack Arnott
This stems from Erich emailing BMS directly and claiming to be ready to place an order over $15,000.
At this point I also felt fear that Erich was trying to scuttle the group buy, but it moved forward.
He also did not reply to my email about placing the order.
So then I felt that Erich was either stupid and not paying attention for not knowing that I was the US distributor, or conniving for trying to go behind my back.
So when he now posts that the 4550 is nothing but a clone, I am left with these two thoughts. That he was either not paying attention, or is trying to subvert me and BMS.
Jack, you are looking into this way more than you should.
As mentioned half way through all of this, I had NO IDEA what was going on with the group buy. I didn't know who ordered what, when it was going to be done, or that you were 'the' US distributor. I merely offered to help ship things.
When you and others mentioned that this entire group buy was about to go bust because some people were going to pull out.......I tried to step up and keep that from happening. Again, as mentioned earlier, I told the designers that if the BMS was some magical compression driver, then we might consider using them in the Alpha series. So when I saw the group buy had a chance to be killed off, I contacted BMS and said I currently use B&C products but might want to also use BMS products in the future.......this is 100% true if there was a need. I told them I understand minimum orders and that I would not put in an order under $15k.
When you emailed me, I clearly told you that. So I don't understand what the issue is.
How many times do I need to say that I like the way they sound and that they're nice drivers? But I said they sound pretty much just like the DE250. What is so wrong with that? I clearly mentioned that at first I noticed more low end and less in the midrange for them. But once the volume was equalized, they were both very smooth and clean sounding with no big benefits of either one. How is that bad?? It's my opinion. Like Coctostan said, it's not the gospel. It's my opinion that once leveled in a speakers crossover, they will sound the same. Sorry that bothers you.
As for me saying these are all clones, they are. If a well known name brand company puts out a product with the same body, and same general make up, and the same diaphragm material......I consider them all pretty much clones of each other. As long as they are a good company, they're likely to all sound extremely similar......which they do. I don't care who came out with what first. Put them all together, test them all, they're basically all clones of each other.
As for my take on BMS. I didn't call them liars. I said that even though they are a good company, and put out great products (more compliments from me), their marketing department puts up specs like Pyle does. I'm not going to get in a debate whether a poly diaphragm in a 1" driver has a remotely usable response of 500hz (look at their own charts), or if it can handle 450 watts, even crossed at their recommendation. If they would like to prove me wrong, I will make up a basic 800hz crossover, and put my Behringer EP2500 on it and see how long it lasts listening to this:
Rock on gentlemen.