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post #181 of 257
Me personally try to get my games new as much as possible, as I've had many problems with used games before. Hell I even had a disc with jam on it. Can you believe that, jam! wink.gif
post #182 of 257
I'm definitely looking forward to this.
post #183 of 257
Fresh from AMD, right off my inbox: http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2013/02/21/amd/

About Jaguar - it seems it's faster clock-for-clock than current A-series APUs: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Jaguar-AMD-s-First-28nm-APU-a-Response-to-Intel-Atom-Low-Power-CPUs-331010.shtml
post #184 of 257
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Originally Posted by theresamaecrowe View Post

I'm definitely looking forward to this.

Welcome to the forum! smile.gif

Even with all the gnashing of teeth about the PS4 by me and others, I do hope it's much better and more customer friendly than we think it might be. Crossing fingers and toes even though I'm not a gamer.
post #185 of 257
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Burton View Post

Me personally try to get my games new as much as possible, as I've had many problems with used games before. Hell I even had a disc with jam on it. Can you believe that, jam! wink.gif

If it was white and tasted salty... that wasn't jam.
post #186 of 257
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Burton View Post

Me personally try to get my games new as much as possible, as I've had many problems with used games before. Hell I even had a disc with jam on it. Can you believe that, jam! wink.gif
Knowing some gamers, jam is a possibility, jelly is an almost certainty, but pretty positive it's not preserves.
post #187 of 257
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Originally Posted by CMonMan View Post

If it was white and tasted salty... that wasn't jam.
If it was, and he licked a used game, serves him right.
post #188 of 257
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Originally Posted by ambesolman View Post

If it was, and he licked a used game, serves him right.

Talking from past experiences?
post #189 of 257
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Originally Posted by 8mile13 View Post

Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida said that PS4 will not block the use of second-hand games.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-sony-tells-eurogamer-playstation-4-will-not-block-used-games

They could change their mind later on like they did with Linux on the Ps3
post #190 of 257
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Talking from past experiences?
Nah, I clean my discs before selling. Fruit/people-based jams just lower the resale value.
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post #192 of 257
Not surprising... very little is made in the U.S. anymore.

We don't make things... we make money.
post #193 of 257
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

Not surprising... very little is made in the U.S. anymore.

We don't make things... we make money.

Which we then send off to China, Japan, Germany etc to try and pay off some of our debt.

Sorry Dan, couldn't resist. smile.gif
post #194 of 257
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Originally Posted by ambesolman View Post

Nah, I clean my discs before selling. Fruit/people-based jams just lower the resale value.


LOL.
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Originally Posted by catonic View Post

Which we then send off to China, Japan, Germany etc to try and pay off some of our debt.

Sorry Dan, couldn't resist. smile.gif

Unfortunately, I don't think the money is being used to pay off our debt lol.

BACK to PS4 topic now.
post #195 of 257
We don't make money, we print money. wink.gif
post #196 of 257
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Originally Posted by w1retap View Post

We don't make money, we print money. wink.gif

Touche! biggrin.gif
post #197 of 257
More like we swipe money into existence that we have to pay for plus interest while @ the same time the federal reserve types made up money digitally on a computer that we have to pay for!
post #198 of 257
Yea, we are pretty screwed. It's all by design though.
post #199 of 257
S0, about the PS4. Can't wait to see what the future brings for this console, and how far game devs are willing to go with the games.

Gaming history in the making smile.gif
post #200 of 257
When are they going to show what it looks like? I hope they go with a more functional looking console that the PS3. The PS3 is one of the ugliest devices I have. Well the PS3 and the Boxee Box.
post #201 of 257
I agree. The original phat was so much more stylish.
post #202 of 257
I didn't read the last 4 pages. What is the debate so far in the bluray player. I know it has the optical drive from a gaming site I follow.
post #203 of 257
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Originally Posted by Cravit8 View Post

I didn't read the last 4 pages. What is the debate so far in the bluray player. I know it has the optical drive from a gaming site I follow.

From the official Sony PDF it states that it will be 6X BD & 8X DVD read speeds. BDXL drive?biggrin.gif
post #204 of 257
Any news?
post #205 of 257
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Originally Posted by img eL View Post

From the official Sony PDF it states that it will be 6X BD & 8X DVD read speeds. BDXL drive?biggrin.gif
Really, is that better than the PS3?
post #206 of 257
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Originally Posted by img eL View Post

From the official Sony PDF it states that it will be 6X BD & 8X DVD read speeds. BDXL drive?biggrin.gif

I personally wouldn't be surprised if they released a model with a regular BD drive and 6-12 months later a model with BDXL.

Not too horribly different from when Sony released the 3D firmware but the Fat PS3 could only play regular DTS or DD while in 3D which for the audio buffs was quite a bummer. I think it was well over a year before they released a firmware that allowed the Fat to play HD audio during 3D BD playback.

What do you guys think?
post #207 of 257
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Originally Posted by Cravit8 View Post

I personally wouldn't be surprised if they released a model with a regular BD drive and 6-12 months later a model with BDXL.

Not too horribly different from when Sony released the 3D firmware but the Fat PS3 could only play regular DTS or DD while in 3D which for the audio buffs was quite a bummer. I think it was well over a year before they released a firmware that allowed the Fat to play HD audio during 3D BD playback.

What do you guys think?

Ultmately the goal is pure downloads, in the interim we will need a way of getting data to the HD. The sata3 HD has by far superior data transfer rates compaired to an optical reader.....not to mention error checking...

My guess is as a interim solution the required data(other than download) will be supplied on optical disk( BD50x2+) will need to be part or fully transfered to the HD prior to play, it may buffer part and then play.

They may develop a 4k play from the optical disk.......but I think why bother, download model will need a HD.....so why not utilize that now, BD50 is mature and cheap, pop 4k data on a BD50 or two, transfer to HD and play...when downloads are fast and furious.....the HW is ready to go!
post #208 of 257
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Originally Posted by Cravit8 View Post

I personally wouldn't be surprised if they released a model with a regular BD drive and 6-12 months later a model with BDXL.

Not too horribly different from when Sony released the 3D firmware but the Fat PS3 could only play regular DTS or DD while in 3D which for the audio buffs was quite a bummer. I think it was well over a year before they released a firmware that allowed the Fat to play HD audio during 3D BD playback.

What do you guys think?

Hopefully all of the audio sources for PS4 are HD from the beginning. I think we're far enough along that there's no excuse not to. Other than the majority of users not hearing the difference...
post #209 of 257
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Originally Posted by Cravit8 View Post

I personally wouldn't be surprised if they released a model with a regular BD drive and 6-12 months later a model with BDXL.

Not too horribly different from when Sony released the 3D firmware but the Fat PS3 could only play regular DTS or DD while in 3D which for the audio buffs was quite a bummer. I think it was well over a year before they released a firmware that allowed the Fat to play HD audio during 3D BD playback.

What do you guys think?
Fat does hd audio and 3d at the same time via Hdmi now? When did I miss that helpful nugget?
post #210 of 257
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Originally Posted by MurfieMusic View Post

Hopefully all of the audio sources for PS4 are HD from the beginning. I think we're far enough along that there's no excuse not to. Other than the majority of users not hearing the difference...

About HD audio.
I have a 7.1 (really 9.1 with "front presence") in a Yamaha RX-A2000 AVR and I have never sat and compared Toy Story 3 DVD vs BD audio, but even when I played Star Wars Episode 1 DVD back in 2004 on my 6.1 non-HD system it sounded impressive.

What the heck am I supposed to be hearing from HD audio anyway? Seriously, does it even matter what the audio is if it's not a $20K designated home theater room?

edit: I want to add I understand needing to fit more channels thus needing the HD audio standards, but I sure don't hear the bitrate differences.
Edited by Cravit8 - 3/26/13 at 2:30pm
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