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post #61 of 241
I received an SVS SB13-Ultra w/Piano Black Finish today.

I used the default Bass Management settings (i.e. Volume -20 dB) recommended by SVS and my Pioneer AVR’s MCACC calibration program to integrate the subwoofer into my 7.1 HT speaker system.

The result from running the MCACC program set the output level for the SB13 to (+9.0 dB).

What do you guys think, should I leave well enough alone for the time being or make some additional tweaks?
post #62 of 241
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Originally Posted by 9179mhb View Post

I received an SVS SB13-Ultra w/Piano Black Finish today.

I used the default Bass Management settings (i.e. Volume -20 dB) recommended by SVS and my Pioneer AVR’s MCACC calibration program to integrate the subwoofer into my 7.1 HT speaker system.

The result from running the MCACC program set the output level for the SB13 to (+9.0 dB).

What do you guys think, should I leave well enough alone for the time being or make some additional tweaks?

Raise the gain on the sub. With the Sledge amps it is better to run the subs gain as high as possible, so look at raising the gain 10-15 on the sub and make the corresponding changes in your AVR to offset this (ie: lower the AVR's trim by the same amount as you raise the subs gain).

Congrats on the sub.
post #63 of 241
I'm happy with my 2 SB13 Ultras, having 2 has removed a dead spot in my room for when I only had the PB12 Plus. For the record, my RX-A3010 has both subs at -2.0db and my subs are both on -13db.
post #64 of 241
Thread Starter 
How is everyone enjoying their sb13 ultra's?
post #65 of 241
I have the SB13 Plus(95% same sub) and I am blown away. Bought it used in like new condition about a month ago and added to my existing Revel B15 and Klipsch RSW-10d and all I can say is that my room 6000 cu. ft. room is now pressurized.

Bill
post #66 of 241
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Originally Posted by SMO5007 View Post

How is everyone enjoying their sb13 ultra's?

Man....... I love it. Thought this thread would have more post...but I guess everyone's enjoying the Sb13 ultra so much they're not on the forums.
post #67 of 241
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Originally Posted by 9179mhb View Post

I received an SVS SB13-Ultra w/Piano Black Finish today.

I used the default Bass Management settings (i.e. Volume -20 dB) recommended by SVS and my Pioneer AVR’s MCACC calibration program to integrate the subwoofer into my 7.1 HT speaker system.

The result from running the MCACC program set the output level for the SB13 to (+9.0 dB).

What do you guys think, should I leave well enough alone for the time being or make some additional tweaks?

Where do you have the sub in your room?
post #68 of 241
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Originally Posted by Snowmanick View Post

Raise the gain on the sub. With the Sledge amps it is better to run the subs gain as high as possible, so look at raising the gain 10-15 on the sub and make the corresponding changes in your AVR to offset this (ie: lower the AVR's trim by the same amount as you raise the subs gain).

Congrats on the sub.

Great advice - +9 is way too high for the sub channel. Coming up to -5 on the sub volume and re-running MCACC should result in a -6 AVR sub channel level, which sends a cleaner line level signal and still allows plenty of upward/downward adjustability.
post #69 of 241
I am happy to be able to join the party and have been loving this beast since May14th.

*

I've added some pics of what my Pio came up with after running MCACC, how do they look to you'll?


post #70 of 241
quick question, does anyone know if the warranty for SVS products transferable?
post #71 of 241
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Originally Posted by Magihyren View Post

quick question, does anyone know if the warranty for SVS products transferable?

It (the warranty) is fully transferable, but I do not think the rest of the bill of rights are, such as the 1 year trade-up,etc.
post #72 of 241
Hi all,

It’s been 2 weeks now that i’m the proud owner of a piano black finish SB13-Ultra and so far so good, i love it tongue.gif
My room is 3800ft3, hardwood and ceramic tiles flooring with drywalls and 8’ ceiling.
I used ARC (Anthem Room Correction software), which measure and gives a real time graph of the frequency response in the room, to find the best place for the sub.
I spent a lot of time moving the sub around in the room and found out that the best way to get the best out of it down to 20hz was to aim the driver directly at the wall, in a corner !
So the SB13 ended in the right corner of the room, behind the right speaker, the driver facing the wall at a distance of about 8 inches ...... and it sounds great with very nice tight bass smile.gif

I’m going to add a second sub later this year to smooth out the bass in the room but for now, i’m curious to see if i’m the only one to have the SB13 set up like that ?
post #73 of 241
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Originally Posted by Niavlys View Post

Hi all,

It’s been 2 weeks now that i’m the proud owner of a piano black finish SB13-Ultra and so far so good, i love it tongue.gif
Welcome to the club !
post #74 of 241
Any Heavy Metal-heads own this sub? if yes, how does it perform?

i listen to mostly Metal, Rock some Techno...but mostly music with agressive drums. I want to make sure this sub will keep up.
post #75 of 241
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Originally Posted by Eddie Arkadian View Post

Any Heavy Metal-heads own this sub? if yes, how does it perform?

i listen to mostly Metal, Rock some Techno...but mostly music with agressive drums. I want to make sure this sub will keep up.

Hi Eddie,

I never have had the pleasure of owning a SB-ULTRA but have had the pleasure of owning 13 of their different options including three vented ULTRA’s. Great subs and well respected as you most likely know. I say this as only to bolster my opinion that imo the SB-ULTRA would serve you very well. It will extend low with authority and give you that punch your looking for (knowing what your seeking in that other thread) This is a pic of their 12 ULTRA driver.. Their 13.5 driver they use now is even more impressive.







Edited by steve nn - 6/26/13 at 12:00pm
post #76 of 241
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

Hi Eddie,

I never have had the pleasure of owning a SB-ULTRA but have had the pleasure of owning 13 of their different options including three vented ULTRA’s. Great subs and well respected as you most likely know. I say this as only to bolster my opinion that imo the SB-ULTRA would serve you very well. It will extend low with authority and give you that punch your looking for (knowing what your seeking in that other thread) This is a pic of their 12 ULTRA driver.. Their 13.5 driver they use now is even more impressive.



13 ... Ay! Caramba
post #77 of 241
My pair will be here on 7/1. I can't wait!
post #78 of 241
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Originally Posted by Niavlys View Post

Hi all,

It’s been 2 weeks now that i’m the proud owner of a piano black finish SB13-Ultra and so far so good, i love it tongue.gif
My room is 3800ft3, hardwood and ceramic tiles flooring with drywalls and 8’ ceiling.
I used ARC (Anthem Room Correction software), which measure and gives a real time graph of the frequency response in the room, to find the best place for the sub.
I spent a lot of time moving the sub around in the room and found out that the best way to get the best out of it down to 20hz was to aim the driver directly at the wall, in a corner !
So the SB13 ended in the right corner of the room, behind the right speaker, the driver facing the wall at a distance of about 8 inches ...... and it sounds great with very nice tight bass smile.gif

I’m going to add a second sub later this year to smooth out the bass in the room but for now, i’m curious to see if i’m the only one to have the SB13 set up like that ?
Torqdog mentioned in here that he has his Rythmik sub facing the corner for better quality too.
The best is to use REW software to check for response.
post #79 of 241
Is there a break in period for the SB Ultra 13? If yes, how long is it?
Thanks in advance.
post #80 of 241
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Originally Posted by jstenuf View Post

Is there a break in period for the SB Ultra 13? If yes, how long is it?
Thanks in advance.

Nothing to worry about. A guy can double-check calibration after 30-40 hrs. of use, but I assure you it’s good to go out of the box. Some like to use a new SW moderately at first considering break-in, but then others don’t. Just double-check calibration like mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Niavlys

Hi all,

It’s been 2 weeks now that i’m the proud owner of a piano black finish SB13-Ultra and so far so good, i love it
My room is 3800ft3, hardwood and ceramic tiles flooring with drywalls and 8’ ceiling.
I used ARC (Anthem Room Correction software), which measure and gives a real time graph of the frequency response in the room, to find the best place for the sub.
I spent a lot of time moving the sub around in the room and found out that the best way to get the best out of it down to 20hz was to aim the driver directly at the wall, in a corner !
So the SB13 ended in the right corner of the room, behind the right speaker, the driver facing the wall at a distance of about 8 inches ...... and it sounds great with very nice tight bass

I’m going to add a second sub later this year to smooth out the bass in the room but for now, i’m curious to see if i’m the only one to have the SB13 set up like that ?

It depends on the room/SW location, and how the SW interacts with it. (response) I have found it beneficial to align my SW toward the wall in the past a few times.
Edited by steve nn - 7/6/13 at 6:04am
post #81 of 241
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

Nothing to worry about. A guy can double-check calibration after 30-40 hrs. of use, but I assure you it’s good to go out of the box. Some like to use a new SW moderately at first considering break-in, but then others don’t. Just double-check calibration like mentioned.
It depends on the room/SW location, and how the SW interacts with it. (response) I have found it beneficial to align my SW toward the wall in the past a few times.
Good to go out of the box is the way I approached this, just couldn't wait to play some deep bass movie scenes after hooking mine up.
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Originally Posted by jstenuf View Post

Is there a break in period for the SB Ultra 13? If yes, how long is it?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for asking this question as I had wondered about this at first too but couldn't wait smile.gif with subwoofer but did breakin my Pioneer speakers just to be safe. I did/do recommend re-calibrating after x amount of hours of play time, it may not be necessary but can't hurt IMO.
post #82 of 241
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Good to go out of the box is the way I approached this, just couldn't wait to play some deep bass movie scenes after hooking mine up.

I hear yuh! Break-in is ok if that's what one likes to do though. There was a guy who posted a thread a few weeks ago that was very concerned about break-in, VERY CONCERNED. I finally suggested he place the sub in it’s location for a month or so (not in use) just to acclimate itself with it’s new surroundings before starting to break it in. biggrin.gif
post #83 of 241
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Originally Posted by Skylinestar View Post

Torqdog mentioned in here that he has his Rythmik sub facing the corner for better quality too.
The best is to use REW software to check for response.
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post


It depends on the room/SW location, and how the SW interacts with it. (response) I have found it beneficial to align my SW toward the wall in the past a few times.


Thanks,

I did some more testing with the sub but no other placement in the room gave me a flat FR like the one i get right now. If i rotate the sub 180 deg to have the driver firing at me, it starts to roll off earlier at 26-27HZ instead of 20HZ or so and i get and uneven FR with peaks and dips.

I still have a lot to learn about subs but so far, i'm pretty happy with the results smile.gif
post #84 of 241
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Originally Posted by Niavlys View Post


Thanks,

I did some more testing with the sub but no other placement in the room gave me a flat FR like the one i get right now. If i rotate the sub 180 deg to have the driver firing at me, it starts to roll off earlier at 26-27HZ instead of 20HZ or so and i get and uneven FR with peaks and dips.

I still have a lot to learn about subs but so far, i'm pretty happy with the results smile.gif

Wow that’s a big difference! Bet you’re glad you took the time and measured things out. cool.gif
post #85 of 241
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

I hear yuh! Break-in is ok if that's what one likes to do though. There was a guy who posted a thread a few weeks ago that was very concerned about break-in, VERY CONCERNED. I finally suggested he place the sub in it’s location for a month or so (not in use) just to acclimate itself with it’s new surroundings before starting to break it in. biggrin.gif
LoL, now that was too funny - ty
My sb13-u felt right at home next to my Pioneer speakers with their metal grills, no acclimation needed smile.gif
post #86 of 241
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

Wow that’s a big difference! Bet you’re glad you took the time and measured things out. cool.gif


Yep, i spent a lot of times with the sub but it well worth the efforts smile.gif

Now i think i need to calm down with the sub and spend more time with the wife for a while, she can't no longer tolerate those repetitive test tones biggrin.gif
post #87 of 241
Thanks for everyones response on break in. I was curious because when I first installed mine, I calibrated them and listend briefly before I played a frequency sweep that runs from 100hz down to 20hz, and repeats, for 48 hours. I recalibrated the subs at the 48 hour mark and listened again and noticed improvement over the first listening experience. Just out of curiosity I put Tron's "lightcycle" race on repeat for another 12 hours and after 60 hours the sound of the subs is still changing. I am getting tighter, more detailed bass with greater impact than I did after the first 48 hours! I am going to give it another 12 to 24 hours of break in and see if there is more change.
post #88 of 241
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Originally Posted by jstenuf View Post

Thanks for everyones response on break in. I was curious because when I first installed mine, I calibrated them and listend briefly before I played a frequency sweep that runs from 100hz down to 20hz, and repeats, for 48 hours. I recalibrated the subs at the 48 hour mark and listened again and noticed improvement over the first listening experience. Just out of curiosity I put Tron's "lightcycle" race on repeat for another 12 hours and after 60 hours the sound of the subs is still changing. I am getting tighter, more detailed bass with greater impact than I did after the first 48 hours! I am going to give it another 12 to 24 hours of break in and see if there is more change.

Can you produce any scientific proof or credible evidence that there's such a thing as a break-in for a subwoofer? I think that's just the "expectation effect" you're experiencing.
post #89 of 241
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

Can you produce any scientific proof or credible evidence that there's such a thing as a break-in for a subwoofer? I think that's just the "expectation effect" you're experiencing.

I use my ears. You should use yours.
post #90 of 241
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Originally Posted by jstenuf View Post

I use my ears. You should use yours.

I have seen this conversation many times. I dunno?.. I have had maybe around 30-40 different DIY and turnkey subs(13 SVS’s) and oddly never experienced the break-in phenomenon. I’m always on the watch for it though, thus checking/measuring calibration after some use.
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