Originally Posted by pokekevin
There are others that get corrected as much as him...I won't say names
BeeMan, try to take these guys advice.
If for the peace doing so would bring, I truly wish I could but research and practical factors have shown me that's not a good idea. When followup research proves the accuracy of what they're taking me to task on, then and only then will I agree to do what they suggest. Thanks for the suggestion.
I did and now I enjoy my set up way more! Also even if your speakers are highly sensitive, if you calibrate them properly you still shouldn't be able to hear much if nothing at all at -60dB... I'll let Craig, Archae, Sputter, + whoever else wants to chime in to explain the rest:)
I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your reply but I didn't know that I wasn't enjoying success in my efforts or the use of our system. As to sensitivity, these are horn loaded speakers that throw their sound into a room. Yes, it makes a difference and yes, despite what some want to claim, sensitivity is based on a 2.83v input, not theory and how sound is perceived at the main listening position includes the nature of how sound is/isn't EQ'd in a room, room acoustics, the matched nature of speakers, matched speaker sensitivity, the design of the speaker (the ability to project sound into a room) and finally, the listener's sensitivity to sound. Poorly integrating reproduced sound into a room's acoustics will cause reproduced frequencies to roll over themselves and when sound is done properly, reproduced sound will get out of it's own way or what others might refer to as clean sound. Yes, I realize this term is in dual use and includes line noise. English is a dual use language, get over this point.
Forgive me as the previous comments are generalizations and are not intended to be an exhaustive list or a definitive description.
Another point, the bad advice surrounding the use of sound meters, "A" weighting vs "C" weighting, why each weighting has a purpose and the when and why the use of each is appropriate and why when each weighting is used improperly, each will give false readings as "C" weighting is not intended to be used all the time, at all SPL levels when measuring full spectrum speaker output and it's in bad form to do so.
I also find it ironic that folks will use uncalibrated sound meters to calibrate their room analyzing programs with. I find it entertaining to read how sound meters are not EQ devices when I never said they were as this myth is intentionally carried forward in a libelous or malicious fashion but ironically, an EQ device would not be able to function sans the presents of a sound meter as the EQ device is co-dependent on a sound meter being a part of the measuring process and the accurate implementation of a SPL increase or reduction at a given frequency or range of frequencies.
If someone other than myself want's to believe their advice is good, I say good for them and as an autodidact, my recommendation to all, read posted advice and do your homework. Research the reality of the issues and if afterwards, anybody wants to post different than what manufactures or meta studies have to offer, I say good for them. Why? Here, scientific principal is not being followed as the advice being shared for my benefit, clearly lacks the requirement of repeatability and instead, is given in the spirit of "Kentucky Windage," with no knowledge of which direction the wind is blowing.
What I don't understand is how you guys will willfully drag a thread off topic and then blame me for what you guys are intentionally guilty of. At this point, because you guys have become so disruptive to the topic of the thread, I'll have to step out. My recommendation, stop dragging threads off topic and stop blaming me for participant's propensity to drag threads off topic.
-Edited by BeeMan458 - 2/11/13 at 5:45am