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Yes its worth extra $100

The PA-120 is generally considered a slight step up over the BIC F12 in bass SQ. Then the BIC PL-200 with more output than either. If by PA-100 you mean the PA-10W, people don't really talk about those on AVS.

Try offering Acoustic Sound Design $250 on the BIC PL-200 (see the Make Your Best Offer button). They will typically come back with a price below $300.

Yes. The BIC PL-200 would be be the best of the three you are considering. Has better SQ and more output.

BTW: How big is your room, including any adjoining open areas?

A 10" sub would be inadequate for that size space for when you do want to be able to hear the sub well. I often think that's why people have problems with budget 8" and 10" subs dying on them--the room space is too big, so the sub is running maxed out all the time.

When the girls are sleeping, you can always turn down the bass. Although if your kids are like most kids, they'd probably sleep through it anyway.

There are also movies that they can enjoy right now (and more soon as they grow older) that have awesome bass effects. See The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts. And they'll probably enjoy what the sub adds when they get a little older and want to play their music on your setup

That's a large space so I don't think you are going to be shaking the house with a F-12 or similar sub. I would however recommend you buy an Auralex Sub-dude regardless of the sub you buy. It decouples the sub from the structure and eliminates some vibrations, leading to a better experience.

One more thing. Your receiver is the Denon 591? If so, it has Audyssey Dynamic Volume. The Midnight setting can help to keep the sound from getting too loud during an action movie later at night. See the FAQ.

If you are new to setting up Denon receivers and using Audyssey, be sure to check out AVS member batpig's Denon setup guide: http://batpigworld.com/setup.html#before

Let us know how it all sounds once you get it setup

anybody can give me an advice, i am planning to set up 5.1 in the future, right now the budget is to tight. all i want just decent 2.0 or 3.0 set up with 300-400 range. pls guide me whic one to get? thanks

Do you need a receiver? If so, that will eat up $200 of your budget.

i am sorry. yes, i need an entry level receiver no net or anything, just 5.1 reciver with audysey set up included.like 150-200 budget. and 2.0 or 3.0 set up for now.

Accessories4less.com has factory refurbished, factory warrantied Denons and Onkyos. That's your best bet on your budget for a receiver.

Then for speakers, I would look at the Pioneer series available at Best Buy.

I SAw denon 1612 receiver, i think that is the best bet for me. and also, is the onkyo or denon HTIB at A4L worh it to buy? i saw onkyo 7.1 for 249 refurb. what do you think?

I would say stick with 2.0 for now. Get that 1612 and a pair of Pioneer FS52 towers from BestBuy as was mentioned earlier. They are actually a decent speaker and offer fantastic value. Later on you can add a sub, and then move to full 5.1. It will take a little longer to get the setup complete but you will have something that puts any HTIB to shame.

Agreed.

Although if you become determined to get a small HTIB type speaker package, get the Denon 1612 and this Monoprice 5.1 set. It's appears to be a rebadged Energy Take Classic 5.1 set. Lots of good testimonials for the Takes. See if the code "INCENTIVE" still works for 20% off.

thanks, this is what i am thinking, any idea about the MLT 2 speakers? are they good speakers? that is what came to my mind, pairing it to Onkyo TX NR509? or should i go to MLT 2 and denon 1612 receiver?

I'd rather have the Denon 1612 over the Onkyo NR509 unless you need the networking features. In that case get the Denon 1613 which does have networking.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR1613/DENON-AVR-1613-5.1ch-Networking-Receiver-w/AirPlay-3D-ready/1.html

thanks, ok will get the 1612, not need much the networking features. so martin logan t2 will be fine and sound great with 1612? or should i go for takes 5.0?

Did you not already have another thread, where you are using Energy 5.1 speakers,
in a larger type room - 20 x 50? You are not talking about much of an upgrade here.

Hello sir. This is for my brother. I am just helping him sir.

good job, should be a nice setup. Congrats!

I'm sure those speakers would sound good without the sub, although the PL-200 will take your setup to a new level

Be sure to try some of these 4 to 5 star movies: The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts

The reason you would be hearing the sub with the movie is because it's getting the .1 channel in 5.1. If you aren 't hearing the sub when listening to music, make certain your speakers are set to small. Probably a crossover of 80hz would work.