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post #1 of 17
2/12/13 at 7:30am
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I'm building a 5 channel home theater for my father for his birthday. I want it to be a surprise. My ears and his ears are totally different, so I can't use the whole "what's best for me" type thing. He's not very picky though. I want to spend at or below 3K for all 5 channels. He has a sub and a receiver and amp already. I was thinking Klipsch reference, since it's 90% movies / 10% music.

Any ideas? I hear Aperion and Swan are good too?

Thanks
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post #2 of 17
2/12/13 at 7:33am
How big is the room?

How loud does he listen?

Are there size (bookshelf vs tower) or aesthetic (i.e. what does Mom think) constraints?

Where are you located?

$3K is a decent budget, you will be able to get a very nice present smile.gif
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post #3 of 17
2/12/13 at 8:21am
I like Paradigm stuff personally, and the Monitor series would be right in that price range. Could be worth a look, good value.
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post #4 of 17
2/12/13 at 9:31am
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It's like 14x18

He listens at moderate volumes, when his friends come over he tends to listen to it a bit louder. Were not talking like 90+ dB levels here though.

Towers are fine, but they can't be too wide. I think like 8-9 inches width is the max we can do there. Mom doesn't mind lookwise.

How about the Deftech like 8040s with an 8040 center and surrounds?
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post #5 of 17
2/12/13 at 9:37am
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Also, keep in mind I can get a Klipsch RF62-ii, RC62-ii, and RS52-ii setup for around $1200 from someone local who never opened them.
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post #6 of 17
2/12/13 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by TVMAN1991 View Post

Also, keep in mind I can get a Klipsch RF62-ii, RC62-ii, and RS52-ii setup for around $1200 from someone local who never opened them.

New factory sealed, that is a deal.
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post #7 of 17
2/12/13 at 9:55am
I'd go three identical Mackie824's across the front, that puts you at $2100, enough for some small Klipsch RB (or equivalent) for surrounds.

Nowhere are performance speakers more competively priced than the small studio monitor market. These are outstanding, active (powered), contoured/EQ'd in time and freq domain speakers, that would allow the rears to be powered by the receiver. This way there's plenty of power for accurate transients, which is very important for playback of both music and movies.

Oftentimes receivers or other amps can easily be starved when attempting to deliver the big effects across multiple channels. That's a lesser concern really, these are just ideally matched, eliminating other variables, with the onboard power, crossover, EQ etc.

These are 8.75" powered two ways, that would be ideal. This way you avoid the center channel silliness using often poorly designed, poorly executed sideways speakers, when the ideal is three identical speakers across the front. The center is absolutely vital in movies. These are availed to us at ~$699, a great value. I believe Ethan Winer utilizes the smaller 6.5" version, as LCR's across the front.

Best of luck
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post #8 of 17
2/12/13 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by TVMAN1991 View Post

How about the Deftech like 8040s with an 8040 center and surrounds?

Just keep in mind the 8040s are not a substitute for buying a good sub. A good Internet direct sub from HSU, Outlaw Audio, Power Sound Audio, SVS, or Rythmik is worth getting in your budget range (if not 2).
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post #9 of 17
2/12/13 at 11:59am
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Yes, I know it's some deal right!?

I understand about the sub. He has a sub, so that's no problem. Def Tech vs Klipsch, which one?
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post #10 of 17
2/12/13 at 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by TVMAN1991 View Post

I understand about the sub. He has a sub, so that's no problem.

What sub does he have?
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post #11 of 17
2/12/13 at 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by FOH View Post

I'd go three identical Mackie824's across the front, that puts you at $2100, enough for some small Klipsch RB (or equivalent) for surrounds.

Nowhere are performance speakers more competively priced than the small studio monitor market. These are outstanding, active (powered), contoured/EQ'd in time and freq domain speakers, that would allow the rears to be powered by the receiver. This way there's plenty of power for accurate transients, which is very important for playback of both music and movies.

Oftentimes receivers or other amps can easily be starved when attempting to deliver the big effects across multiple channels. That's a lesser concern really, these are just ideally matched, eliminating other variables, with the onboard power, crossover, EQ etc.

These are 8.75" powered two ways, that would be ideal. This way you avoid the center channel silliness using often poorly designed, poorly executed sideways speakers, when the ideal is three identical speakers across the front. The center is absolutely vital in movies. These are availed to us at ~$699, a great value. I believe Ethan Winer utilizes the smaller 6.5" version, as LCR's across the front.

If you want the closest equivalents to HR824s at a reasonable price and good sound, please check out the Behringer B2031A.
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post #12 of 17
2/12/13 at 12:27pm
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If you want the closest equivalents to HR824s at a reasonable price and good sound, please check out the Behringer B2031A.

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Arny, I'm a fan of those, ... having recommended them yesterday.

I think the Mackies are a bit more suitable for typical distances found in HT.
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post #13 of 17
2/12/13 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

What sub does he have?

Paradigm Sub 15
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post #14 of 17
2/12/13 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by TVMAN1991 View Post

Paradigm Sub 15

I guess he doesn't need anything new. I'm surprised he doesn't have great speakers to match smile.gif
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post #15 of 17
2/12/13 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by TVMAN1991 View Post

Also, keep in mind I can get a Klipsch RF62-ii, RC62-ii, and RS52-ii setup for around $1200 from someone local who never opened them.

I would go with the Klipsch or HTD Level Three
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-three-speakers
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post #16 of 17
2/12/13 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by TVMAN1991 View Post

I'm building a 5 channel home theater for my father for his birthday. I want it to be a surprise. My ears and his ears are totally different, so I can't use the whole "what's best for me" type thing. He's not very picky though. I want to spend at or below 3K for all 5 channels. He has a sub and a receiver and amp already. I was thinking Klipsch reference, since it's 90% movies / 10% music.

Any ideas? I hear Aperion and Swan are good too?

Thanks

Which receiver and amp?
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post #17 of 17
2/12/13 at 4:25pm
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He has an MRX anthem and an old acurus I got him. 200x3 for the fronts.
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