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post #61 of 110
I bought the 40" model and i am having problems with the colors (a couple of examples here: http://imgur.com/a/REdMX). It seems like where it should be displaying a certain brown color it instead displays red. Looking at all these comments i assume this is not normal but i wanted to see what you guys thought. All the colors enhancements and what not under advanced settings are off, btw.
post #62 of 110
I bought a 32" Vizio M321I-A2 and exchanged it for this TV. It took a little tweaking to get the picture the way I wanted it to look but I think I settled on the settings I'm gonna keep. Here are my settings:

Picture
Picture Mode = Standard
Backlight = Max
Picture = 80
Brightness = 43
Color = 57
Hue = 0
Sharpness = 5
Color Temperature = Warm
Noise Reduction = Off
MPEG Noise Reduction = Off
CineMotion = Auto

Advanced
Adv. Contrast Enhancer = Off
Black Corrector = Off
Gamma = -3
Clear White = Off
Live Color = Off
LED Motion = Off

Eco
Power Saving = Off
Light Sensor = Off
post #63 of 110
removed due to duplicate post
Edited by mickeyj4j - 7/27/13 at 5:53pm
post #64 of 110
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Originally Posted by seabreeze82 View Post

Hello, SO I am thinking of getting this Tv for a bedroom. Can anyone tell me, if I can connect an apple TV to it?
and would a Samsung 40F6300 be a lot better than this tv? Thanks

Any TV with the correct ports Will work with any device connected to that port. eg if you have an older apple tv with av then you can connect it to the dual av/component or if you have a newer apple tv then connecting to the hdmi port will work.

Think of the apple TV as a desktop computer, as long as the screen has the right connector it will work wether, crt, lcd etc.
post #65 of 110
Thread Starter 
The settings that Big C posted are nice. Custom with Gamma 3+. Although I like the extra pop Vivid puts out it's limited on settings.
I also believe what your watching has something to do with how the settings should be, live News versus a HBO movie. all around the custom with those tweaks is good. Thanks.
post #66 of 110
So overall this TV is pretty good but has bad viewing angles?

How is it for gaming?
post #67 of 110
Could anybody tell me about DSE, vertical banding and clouding issues on this tv ? ( Have u noticed them or not ? ) . Go on whith this interesting Thread, please ( Don't Stop , What happened whith the R450A owners ? ) . Thank u.
post #68 of 110
I have the 46" and I've noticed DSE when watching football. It can be pretty obvious when there are pans across the field. I haven't noticed it all all when watching TV and movies over the past month, and I haven't noticed any clouding or vertical banding.
post #69 of 110
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Originally Posted by DLiquid View Post

I have the 46" and I've noticed DSE when watching football. It can be pretty obvious when there are pans across the field. I haven't noticed it all all when watching TV and movies over the past month, and I haven't noticed any clouding or vertical banding.

Thank u for answering me . The DSE you noticed on the R450a is annoying or It's easy to tolerate when watching sports ??? ( I think vertical banding is worse than that issue like the LA6200 lg I used to have, which was also supposed to be a direct Led instead of an edge Led where that problem is mostly common ) . I suffered from line bleeding on the HX850 Sony and I've had it whith that ( I got a refund ) . I'm, presently, an f8500 owner , so I'm not looking for perfection on the R450A . The fact you haven't noticed any clouding on It makes me happy ! ( It was a terrible " headache " on my old ES8000 Samsung ) . See u !
post #70 of 110
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Originally Posted by AGUSTINFOREVER View Post

Thank u for answering me . The DSE you noticed on the R450a is annoying or It's easy to tolerate when watching sports ??? ( I think vertical banding is worse than that issue like the LA6200 lg I used to have, which was also supposed to be a direct Led instead of an edge Led where that problem is mostly common ) . I suffered from line bleeding on the HX850 Sony and I've had it whith that ( I got a refund ) . I'm, presently, an f8500 owner , so I'm not looking for perfection on the R450A . The fact you haven't noticed any clouding on It makes me happy ! ( It was a terrible " headache " on my old ES8000 Samsung ) . See u !

I've only watched one football game on the TV so far. The DSE was very annoying during that game, mostly because prior to that I thought the TV was excellent at its price point, and the DSE took it down a notch. I kept rewinding and observing the DSE to see how bad it was. It was bumming me out. I have a feeling that I will get used to it, or at least learn to live with it. It's not bad enough that I would return the TV. I bought the more expensive KDL-55W802A for my living room, but for my bedroom I am fine with the KDL-46R453A and its DSE with sports (and presumably video games).
post #71 of 110
i have a problem with this tv im using it as a monitor for my pc and sometimes the screen goes black for 1 second and then goes back to normal i know is just one second but it can be annoying sometimes especially if im playing a game and i never had this kind of problem with the other tvs i had.
any help will be appreciated.
post #72 of 110
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Originally Posted by CaptX View Post

i have a problem with this tv im using it as a monitor for my pc and sometimes the screen goes black for 1 second and then goes back to normal i know is just one second but it can be annoying sometimes especially if im playing a game and i never had this kind of problem with the other tvs i had.
any help will be appreciated.

I don't have this tv, but I have a pc hooked to my tv and a monitor, and it just does that sometimes. I think its when the computer is connecting to the other screen or something. but it is definatly the computer and has nothing to do with the screen.
post #73 of 110
well i really like my tv and thats the only "problem" i have, some guy in other forum said that it could be due to a cheap hdmi cable so i'm going to try with another to see what happens
post #74 of 110
Motionflow was mentioned earlier in this thread but I'm not sure if there was a definitive answer for "can motionflow be disabled on Sony R450A series televisions?" I am still seeking an answer to that, and I'll add two related questions: Is the "Motionflow XR 120" technology always on? and- Can these televisions display 24 fps film-based video as 24 fps without any processing such as interpolation or black frame insertion? (In other words, if this is operating at 120hz, does it display 24 fps video by just repeating each frame 5 times?)
post #75 of 110
After further research, I guess I'll answer my own question: No, the 2013 Sony R450 series televisions cannot display 24fps video natively and without motionflow interpolation because it is a 60hz LCD and motionflow cannot be disabled.
post #76 of 110
24p looks fine on the 450a and is supported. Looks no different to my older Sony xbr9.

There is no soap opera effect.
post #77 of 110
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Originally Posted by CaptX View Post

i have a problem with this tv im using it as a monitor for my pc and sometimes the screen goes black for 1 second and then goes back to normal i know is just one second but it can be annoying sometimes especially if im playing a game and i never had this kind of problem with the other tvs i had.
any help will be appreciated.

i solved the problem replacing the cheap hdmi cable for a better one, some people say that all hdmi cables are the same and you dont have to buy an expensive one, don't believe it, the cables cost more for a reason. i was using the hdmi cable that came with my lg dvd player and now im using a microsoft cable that came with the xbox and no more problems i also tried other brands like sony or apple and they work fine too. I extended this post because im seeing the same of problem with other tvs so before you send it to waranty you should try with another cable first.
post #78 of 110
Usually device mfrs have (if any) cheap included cables I don't use them . OTOH I'm not about expensive overpriced cables either
I have good luck with Amazon basics cables they work with no issues they have decent ends and cable and are cheap. Monoprice are good also
post #79 of 110
I am considering getting this model (40R450A). Can someone tell me if the stand is removable so I can wall mount?
post #80 of 110
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Originally Posted by MrReorg View Post

I am considering getting this model (40R450A). Can someone tell me if the stand is removable so I can wall mount?
Yes the stand is removable. Comes detached in the box already.
post #81 of 110

Hey guys,

 

I'm interested in getting this or the EH5300. My main concern is whether or not this TV can play MKV. Anyone know what codecs the media player supports?

post #82 of 110
Anyone know the motion resolution of this TV? I'm reading a lot of pretty good things about this TV.. PQ seems pretty good, uniformity seems decent.. why isn't it more popular?

http://www.rtings.com/info/motion-blur-tvs

This site rates it's motion at or above some Plasmas, which is pretty amazing.

This TV will be about 1/3rd watching sports (mostly hockey) 1/3rd gaming, and 1/3 movies/TV shows... mostly casual.

Biggest concern is how it handles motion, my Vizio E3D320VX right now makes me want to cry with it's inverse ghosting and trails.

PS - Interested in the 50" version if that matters..
post #83 of 110
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Originally Posted by Kurtangletn View Post

Anyone know the motion resolution of this TV? I'm reading a lot of pretty good things about this TV.. PQ seems pretty good, uniformity seems decent.. why isn't it more popular?

http://www.rtings.com/info/motion-blur-tvs

This site rates it's motion at or above some Plasmas, which is pretty amazing.

This TV will be about 1/3rd watching sports (mostly hockey) 1/3rd gaming, and 1/3 movies/TV shows... mostly casual.

Biggest concern is how it handles motion, my Vizio E3D320VX right now makes me want to cry with it's inverse ghosting and trails.

PS - Interested in the 50" version if that matters..


I'm in the same boat, considering the 50" version; I too became interested in this set from rtings.com, and as 120hz is of no concern to me, and my primary use would be gaming, this TV seems to be the logical choice.

 

I've gone through 6 different TVs in the last month trying to find one that works for me, the last one being the Samsung F6300. The F6300 produced an amazing picture, but was severely detracted by DSE, which is my biggest complaint with TVs today. It had vertical banding in particular (in addition to the usual clouding), and I'm hoping the direct LED lighting will help to combat those effects in this particular model. One of the biggest problems with diagnosing these problems is the ill-defined terminology -- DSE can, person to person, mean anything from the blotchiness/vertical banding issue associated with inconsistent luminosity, to an actual dirty screen originating from defects in applying the AG coating, to video compression artifacts present in broadcasting high motion video such as sports, the latter which I suspect is what in actuality the above poster is complaining about when he mentions DSE. My complaint is, of cousre, the banding/blotchiness.

 

At any rate, rtings.com rated the F6300 more poorly at motion blur than the R450, and I found that set to be perfectly acceptable; in fact, I'm (trying to) upgrade from a CCFL that has pretty bad trailing/ghosting, so this is an issue for me as well, albeit not as big as the DSE problem (which ironically, my CCFL does not suffer from). I'll get back to you if I decide to try this set out, since the Bestbuy deal for $599 is all too tempting, especially if it works for me.

post #84 of 110
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Originally Posted by kohmei View Post


I'm in the same boat, considering the 50" version; I too became interested in this set from rtings.com, and as 120hz is of no concern to me, and my primary use would be gaming, this TV seems to be the logical choice.

I've gone through 6 different TVs in the last month trying to find one that works for me, the last one being the Samsung F6300. The F6300 produced an amazing picture, but was severely detracted by DSE, which is my biggest complaint with TVs today. It had vertical banding in particular (in addition to the usual clouding), and I'm hoping the direct LED lighting will help to combat those effects in this particular model. One of the biggest problems with diagnosing these problems is the ill-defined terminology -- DSE can, person to person, mean anything from the blotchiness/vertical banding issue associated with inconsistent luminosity, to an actual dirty screen originating from defects in applying the AG coating, to video compression artifacts present in broadcasting high motion video such as sports, the latter which I suspect is what in actuality the above poster is complaining about when he mentions DSE. My complaint is, of cousre, the banding/blotchiness.

At any rate, rtings.com rated the F6300 more poorly at motion blur than the R450, and I found that set to be perfectly acceptable; in fact, I'm (trying to) upgrade from a CCFL that has pretty bad trailing/ghosting, so this is an issue for me as well, albeit not as big as the DSE problem (which ironically, my CCFL does not suffer from). I'll get back to you if I decide to try this set out, since the Bestbuy deal for $599 is all too tempting, especially if it works for me.

Mind going through which TVs you've been through?

Motion goes a lot further than just 60hz, so it's incredibly tough to tell from TV to TV how it's going to go.

Seems Sony's as far as LED end have it done best.

http://www.blurbusters.com/sony-motionflow-impulse-mode-reduces-motion-blur-without-interpolation/

I'm going to try checking some out at Best Buy today or tomorrow.
post #85 of 110
what type of plug does the audio 2 output take (the non digital audio) ?
post #86 of 110
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Originally Posted by kohmei View Post


I'm in the same boat, considering the 50" version; I too became interested in this set from rtings.com, and as 120hz is of no concern to me, and my primary use would be gaming, this TV seems to be the logical choice.

I've gone through 6 different TVs in the last month trying to find one that works for me, the last one being the Samsung F6300. The F6300 produced an amazing picture, but was severely detracted by DSE, which is my biggest complaint with TVs today. It had vertical banding in particular (in addition to the usual clouding), and I'm hoping the direct LED lighting will help to combat those effects in this particular model. One of the biggest problems with diagnosing these problems is the ill-defined terminology -- DSE can, person to person, mean anything from the blotchiness/vertical banding issue associated with inconsistent luminosity, to an actual dirty screen originating from defects in applying the AG coating, to video compression artifacts present in broadcasting high motion video such as sports, the latter which I suspect is what in actuality the above poster is complaining about when he mentions DSE. My complaint is, of cousre, the banding/blotchiness.

At any rate, rtings.com rated the F6300 more poorly at motion blur than the R450, and I found that set to be perfectly acceptable; in fact, I'm (trying to) upgrade from a CCFL that has pretty bad trailing/ghosting, so this is an issue for me as well, albeit not as big as the DSE problem (which ironically, my CCFL does not suffer from). I'll get back to you if I decide to try this set out, since the Bestbuy deal for $599 is all too tempting, especially if it works for me.

I just picked up the 50" version of this TV. I've had trouble finding any info or impressions online, but for $599 I decided to pull the trigger on it. Great picture, and the input lag seems quite minimal. I haven't had time to fiddle with the settings, but I'm very pleased so far.
post #87 of 110

Hello everyone, new to the forums.

 

I recently purchased this television to replace my LG 42LN5400. I like the TV, it displays accurate colors. However, one of the things that made this TV a consideration was it's low motion blur. I've played a couple of fast paced video games (NHL 14 and Grand Theft Auto V) and watched some football and hockey on the set, but I have noticed some blur and tiling/pixels on fast movement. I have played with the settings and turned off noise reduction, and changed the "Scene Select" to Game for video games or Sports for watching a sporting event. I don't think my TV is calibrated properly.

 

My question is, someone left this review on Sony's website about this TV.

 

Quote:
I was skeptical about LEDs at first, coming from one of the two old widescreen CRTs ever made, I was leaning more towards a plasma. I had heard a lot of complaints about motion blur, false blacks and input lag in LEDs and LCDs. Then I went shopping, not one plasma under $1500 had the darker "smart glass" every plasma needs to be considerable. Then I learned of Sonys "motion flow" and "game mode" in this particular model. I did a lot of research and read a lot reviews, nearly all were positive. Throw in the under $500 price tag and I was sold. 99% of my home entertainment comes from my PS3, streaming TV, Netflix, Sports, DVDs, BluRays, Music and of course Gaming, so I was hoping matching my PS3 up with a Sony TV would be a good move. I'll admit I had some doubts at first, the default calibrations were producing some black crush, ghosting and color shifting in the first few movies and games I tested. I got it all pretty close and then I found this top notch AVS calibrator online, ran the MP4 from a flashdrive and followed their pdf tutorial... and... Wow, no blur, no lag, no grain. Deep blacks, rich vibrant colors and beautiful depth in contrast. All of my media looks astounding! Even blown up videos in the web browser look smooth and HD. Games themselves appear nearly 3 dimensional, titles like Ratchet & Clank even out shine Pixar characters in the theater... This TV was meant to be paired with the Playstation and should really be advertised as such... It does take some knowledgeable tweaking and calibrating but it's more than worth it

Now has anyone else used this calibration and did it help?

 

Thank you.

post #88 of 110
Was the text in the original post, "AVS calibrator", a link?
I'm not that active on the forums anymore, but I've never seen anyone referring to such a thing here.
post #89 of 110

No, it wasn't a link but I'm assuming that customer meant this.

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration

post #90 of 110
Well it seems many are using those calibration files, the thread was started in 2007 and it's still going strong.
I would think you should post any questions you have over there, and also scan through maybe the last year of material to see what's happening!
That said I'm sure if anyone who owns one of these Sonys, and has experimented with the files, will possibly see your post here and reply.
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