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Sharp LC-70LE8470U vs. Sony XBR65HX950

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I'm looking to purchase a large screen TV for a home theater and I've narrowed it down to two models. The Sony one really captured my attention but is it actually worth it to spend $5200 on it while I can get the Sharp for $2800?

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-XBR55HX950-55-inch-Internet-Full-Array/dp/B008XG1MHS/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1360769849&sr=1-5&keywords=full+array+LED+back+light

http://www.costco.com/Sharp-AQUOS-Quattron-70%22-Class-3D-1080p-240Hz-AquoMotion-480-LED-Smart-3D-TV.product.11755276.html

What does the Sony TV have that justifies such a larger price compared to the Sharp?
post #2 of 18
You're not comparing apples to apples. The HX950 is Sony's top of the line set. It features full array local dimming, and has superior black levels to the Sharp. A more fair comparison would be against the 60 or 70 inch Elite.
Edited by gweempose - 2/13/13 at 1:51pm
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Your not comparing apples to apples. The HX950 is Sony's top of the line set. It features full array local dimming, and has superior black levels to the Sharp. A more fair comparison would be against the 60 or 70 inch Sharp Elite.

"Worth it" is in the eye of the beholder. The Quattron has a lot going for it and the full array backlit Sony will have issues surrounding the use of so many light elements.
You trade flashlighting and clouding and light bleed for halo effects around small bright objects and possibly uneven aging of the elements in the Sony.
Have a good look at both and decide which you happen to prefer. I wouldn't trade my 70" Quattron for the Sony even at the same price point...
post #4 of 18
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"Worth it" is in the eye of the beholder. The Quattron has a lot going for it and the full array backlit Sony will have issues surrounding the use of so many light elements.
You trade flashlighting and clouding and light bleed for halo effects around small bright objects and possibly uneven aging of the elements in the Sony.
Have a good look at both and decide which you happen to prefer. I wouldn't trade my 70" Quattron for the Sony even at the same price point...

The 70' Quattron isn't even in the same league as the 70' Elite, let alone the 65HX950.
Edited by cmay91472 - 2/13/13 at 12:12pm
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The 70' Quattron isn't even in the same league as the 70' Elite, let alone the 65HX950.

That's why there are different 'leagues' and I'm merely pointing out that no league is perfect and the price point difference might not be 'worth it'.
My $3,000 70" 3D Quattron gives me great satisfaction and I don't think I would enjoy the experience any better on another set at any price.
Liquid crystal displays will have their inherent limitations of black level regardless of technology used to mask the deficiency.
Using a good algorithm, my set delivers a very bright picture with acceptable black levels for my viewing with no clouding or flashlighting.
I've seen plenty of complaints about the full array sets and their uniformity issues and the Sharp Elites are not even locally dimmed...
post #6 of 18
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"Worth it" is in the eye of the beholder. The Quattron has a lot going for it and the full array backlit Sony will have issues surrounding the use of so many light elements.
You trade flashlighting and clouding and light bleed for halo effects around small bright objects and possibly uneven aging of the elements in the Sony.
Have a good look at both and decide which you happen to prefer. I wouldn't trade my 70" Quattron for the Sony even at the same price point...

John not to sound rude or anything but if they were @ the same price point and both set up in your room I bet my "beloved cat" that you would choose the Sony
post #7 of 18
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John not to sound rude or anything but if they were @ the same price point and both set up in your room I bet my "beloved cat" that you would choose the Sony

The Sony is much smaller at 55" and with 3D, size matters a lot.
I don't prefer fois gras and caviar to sirloin either.
I am happy with the Sharp and I have no resentment against rich folks. Sorry if you wish I did... smile.gif
post #8 of 18
Sony makes the 950 in 65" also
post #9 of 18
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Sony makes the 950 in 65" also

OH! Well I AM resentful of extremely rich folks! Kidding aside, I really like the Quattron with all its minor flaws.
The more money I spend, the more I expect perfection, so there is a point of diminishing returns.
I haven't seen the Sony, but every Sony TV I've ever owned has disappointed me in one way or another. All have been expensive and highly-rated.
The Sharp delivers pictures that rival a slide projector of the old days. With good calibration, it is quite a competent piece of equipment.
If Sony were producing a new technology, such as OLED or SED or something, I would consider further comparisons.
As it is, I can't stand the artifacts associated with local dimming or even global dimming. LCD has come a huge distance in contrast ratio on its own...
post #10 of 18
I was just reading your post a few up where you said if they were the same price you would still pick Quattron. So I was figuring if you had the 65" Sony and the 70" Sharp side by side and the same price you would probably pick the Sony or most people would. And not everyone is having problems with the Sony. Many are enjoying a wonderful set. In fact that is what the OP was asking anyways the 65" vs. the 70" so my apologies if you took my post as meaning the Sony 55".
post #11 of 18
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I was just reading your post a few up where you said if they were the same price you would still pick Quattron. So I was figuring if you had the 65" Sony and the 70" Sharp side by side and the same price you would probably pick the Sony or most people would. And not everyone is having problems with the Sony. Many are enjoying a wonderful set. In fact that is what the OP was asking anyways the 65" vs. the 70" so my apologies if you took my post as meaning the Sony 55".

No apologies needed, unless they are mine.
I like the yellow pixel's effect on the color gamut on the Sharp.
Not only gamut, but also the subtlety of fleshtones without green or orange tendencies.
Red and green must work too hard and the green must be too yellow in the tricolor setup.
I'm sure the Sony is a wonderful set, so why can't we each enjoy what we've got?
post #12 of 18
OK Thanks
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by johnfull View Post

... and the Sharp Elites are not even locally dimmed...

Yes they are.
post #14 of 18
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The Sony is much smaller at 55" and with 3D, size matters a lot.
I don't prefer fois gras and caviar to sirloin either.
I am happy with the Sharp and I have no resentment against rich folks. Sorry if you wish I did... smile.gif

It is interesting you mention 3D as without a doubt the 70 inch Elite, green blobs aside, produce one of the best 2D images of any LED set. However, for 3D.... It is perhaps one of the weakest compared to Sony, Samsung and Panasonic flagship sets. Obviously the Quattron is a different set than the Elite and might be using a different panel, so maybe 3D is better on a Quattron than Elite?
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It is interesting you mention 3D as without a doubt the 70 inch Elite, green blobs aside, produce one of the best 2D images of any LED set. However, for 3D.... It is perhaps one of the weakest compared to Sony, Samsung and Panasonic flagship sets. Obviously the Quattron is a different set than the Elite and might be using a different panel, so maybe 3D is better on a Quattron than Elite?

Good question. I know that Sharp is using the cheaper tri-color panel on the 90" set to keep the price down.
If the Elite didn't use Quattron technology, for whatever reason, it is losing out in the dynamic range produced with more open lensing.
Green blobs on the Elite? Ye gads. Someone posted photos of purple blobs, probably due to the yellow phosphor on the white LEDs degrading.
Full array sets have to have extremely expensive feedback to keep all the whites the same color and brightness. Edge lit -- not so much...
post #16 of 18
I have a 70" elite sharp and its 3d is wonderful, far superior thant the ones I have seen in other brands. Take a look at CNET and see their review about it.
post #17 of 18
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I have a 70" elite sharp and its 3d is wonderful, far superior thant the ones I have seen in other brands. Take a look at CNET and see their review about it.

I love my 70" Quattron 3D as well:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444684/sharp-lc-70le845u-calibration-including-3d
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I have a 70" elite sharp and its 3d is wonderful, far superior thant the ones I have seen in other brands. Take a look at CNET and see their review about it.

I would say it was definitely good in 2011... but since the Elite was not upgraded in 2012 it fell behind the curve as the original CNET review was comparing to the Samsung D8000. The 2012 models for almost all of the major manufacturers made huge improvements to 3D in regards to level of crosstalk. This was the main reason for my post of it's 3D being weak as it did not have the advantage of an additional year of the manufacturers fine tuning the 3D and minimizing the crosstalk. Still has the best 2D image despite being a 2011 model vs 2012 models though.
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