statements spec? - Page 2

I think the requirements to hit reference are a little over stated. I have never seen a room big enough for the spl to actually drop 3db for every doubling of distance. It is much lower in my experience. The statements will get as loud as you need them to considering you are in an apartment. You would only need enough power to make sure the amp isn't clipping. I would look for quality here, not quantity. A Rotel AVR with 50w/channel would probably be all you need (as an example).

If you want bang for your buck, then do like I did and go with a Behringer EP1,500 or even an EP4000. Those will net you a lot more power than the Emotiva, for less money.

Yes, you have to do a fan mod on the EP series, but it is as simple as it gets.

get a much lower watt amp those speakers cant handle more then 100watt rms

Home audio and totally different from car audio. Rarely does the wattage rattings on a speaker actually mean that it can only take "x" number of watts. Using an EP4000 would work really well with the Statements, and the good thing about having that much power, is that you would have a sh*t load of head room, which will come in handy with dynamics and peaks in sound when watching movies or listening to music. Heck I have a bridged EP1500 running my single Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1 Center channel speaker and it works just fine. Having an EP4000 on the Statements would work no problem, what you have to worry about as far as blowing them up, is running too little power, not too much!

Did you construct the Statement Center Channel crossover yourself? Or did someone else do it for you?

NIce! Glad you like it!

Money well spent.

Well, based on your experience with your center channel and existing receiver, does it seem like you will have enough power without buying a new amp?

If that were true, you could blow your speakers by turning the volume down.

OP, glad you liked dealing with Meniscus Audio. They are a good outfit, I had a very positive experience with them.
Edited by djkest - 2/25/13 at 1:07pm

It is true, too little power is far worse than too much, due to over driven amps yeilding high levels of THD, clipping and other anomalies.

Only with the tweeters.

I wouldn't worry about pushing the receiver too hard. They are made to be beat on. It isn't a lifetime purchase anyway. There will be a new version of HDMI or some other interface, features, technology, etc coming down the road. You will want to upgrade it in a couple of years....

Just use it, it was designed that way. If you are not getting distortion and it is not shutting down, etc you are fine.

You probably have all the power that you need.
Like I said, I only have 100w and it will go louder than I could stand to listen to when used as a 5.1 system.

That is only useful if you can use that much power. An EP4k will easily tear those speakers up before blinking the clip lights. Will you suddenly be in headroom nirvana with a 3000kW amp? No, you will just have a lot of wasted power, just like with the EP4k. I used my EP2500 to power a pair of Monitor Audio RS1 bookshelfs back in the day. It worked great, but it's not like I had ridiculous amounts of headroom because the speakers would blow before utilizing that power.

Try it first with your receiver!!!!!!!!

Your receiver will be an antique before it blows up from driving speakers too hard.
Edited by jpmst3 - 2/26/13 at 6:02am

You can't just add the wattage ratings of the drivers together and assume that's how much power the speaker can take or require. For example, the woofers in the Statements will hit their excursion limits at 60 Hz with 80 watts per woofer (160 watts total). That number goes down depending on the frequency; for example, you would hit the excursion limits of the drivers at 40hz with only 80 watts total.

My big Krell amp will easily put out 300 watts per channel and while my main speakers Scan Speak drivers power ratings are as high or higher than the statement drivers they will be distorting below half that.

I would try a good receiver first and if that doesn't play loud enough for you, you could consider a larger amp or more efficient speakers.

Regards,

Dennis

I am not sure why are so protective of your receiver. It's a consumer item made as bulletproof as possible. Crank the dang thing!

If you over do it, it will shut off. I have had many Denon, Onkyo, and Yamaha, receivers.
If you short the terminals, or overheat them, they shutdown. Wait a couple of seconds and power them back up.
I have only had it happen to me 3 or 4 times in 15 years, when I was pounding the crap out of them over the hot summer months during parties.
I have 3 receivers at the moment and have had dozens...I have never had a receiver go bad.
I have one in the garage in near 100% humidity all the time and one out in a work shed that goes from below 0 to 100 degrees F depending on weather and it always works.
I often drive 4 ohm loads with them and they still work fine.

The power handling numbers/excursion limits I mentioned are no different than any speaker, DIY or commercial, that doesn't have some sort of high pass filter either in the speaker itself or in the AVR's bass management. A $50k Magico or Wilson speaker will have similar limitations where they speaker will likely hit mechanical limits before thermal. It all comes down to how loud you want to listen to your speakers. Many here talk about the goal of hitting reference level with peaks of 105 db at the listening positions but most typical home audio speakers just aren't designed for that.

I want to clarify though; the Statements are an amazing sounding speaker. I heard Jim Holtz's first pair at his house long before they grew in popularity and they were one of the better sounding speakers I had ever heard...they still are. I can't imagine anyone not being happy with the sound. The Statements should play louder than most people would ever listen to them and sound great doing it. If your goal is great sound quality they are a very good choice.

Regards,

Dennis