SVP +1080p Animation = OMG ! - Page 2

I have 3.1.3 installed.

Should I bother installing the new one ?

I found it from the link ReneThx posted above, but after I started this one. Sorry.

I'd say a 3570k is a good compromise between "high end / expensive" and very basic. It is probably enough for level 3/4 I am guessing; and I am pretty certain you could level 5 with a good GPU card and/or overclock.
It would give you a basic entry point or upgrade path.

3570k + say Asrock Z77 board is about $200ish at Microcenter ... so that's probably the cheapest you could go and have a reasonable expectation for a good upgrade path like overclocking or adding a more serious GPU if you wanted in future. I would guess most i3's can do it, and do it even better with a GPU of coarse It all depends on the levels you want. The lower levels run fine on an i3.

If you already own an i3 or higher it's free to try it out. My guess is some will try SVP and then never really use it much beyond playing around, while others might really like it and add a robust GPU to get more .

If you want max quality though you'll certainly want a decent CPU and GPU combo. No way can you go maximum quality on cheap hardware.

I ran VLC on one monitor and MPC-HC with the toys on the other side by side and in time sync. I dropped a few frames when the movies started and I click MPC-HC from window to full screen then after that none.

Very noticable improvement on Monsters Inc and Cars. Even wife instantly noticed and agreed. I would use one of these for the first test before switching to other scenes if you have them. Use a 1080p video (although with a weaker CPU you'll get better quality on 720p) if you can. It's a good stress test.

I wish there was a cool way to post my test. It's very obvious side by side testing. I am lucky enough to have dual monitors and the ability to run dual 1080p side by side with different players to compare. I have the exact same Samsung Monitors so it's pretty easy for me to test this out. The into of TITANIC and some of the universal intro, Columbia or Fox intro's are pretty easy to tell if SVP is on in the first few seconds of something playing. I think it's a huge benefit for newer animation but I am still playing around with it for movies. It's possible too good for normal movies.. lol.

I'm nearly certain a 7000 series Radeon and 3570k would be a really good entry point if someone was starting out fresh but I'll digress to ReneTHX's advice for certainty.

I am reading this as tongue in cheek yes ?

I'm pretty certain a 7G setting would crush even a high end PC. I'd be afraid to think what you'd need to run that

Perhaps a LGA2011 based system with multiple GPU cards and 2133mhz+ memory clock might do it.

I just ran a few performance tests. I am not manually overclocked or anything serious. My PC is very stable with headroom if I wanted to get more serious.

I'll post my results for anyone that wants to compare.

If anyone is interested in seeing what their system can do there is a good FREE trial benchmark at Passmark you can try.

http://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm


Here is a little of what I got just now with very little optimization:













I think the biggest benchmark for SVP is probably CPU. What your CPU can do will go a long way in SVP.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

You can find your CPU there (That is the high end chart, might need go midrange to find some CPU)










I am guessing any CPU with a 5000 score or higher has good potential for SVP, and anything about 7500 should do level 5 no problems.

Now,


As far as level 7G

I doubt even an i7 3770k could do it... lol That's probably the most affordable and main stream high end CPU today.

Yup. I would imagine the biggest problem with running an i3 would be headroom. If something competes for CPU or system power it's going to effect your SVP.

You either need to set it even lower or disable other activities

I think it's pretty cool. On some stuff there is obvious benefit. But I could be happy without it too. I like playing more than I care what it actually looks like. It looks good either way to me.

On animation it's amazing. Really a clear improvement.

Some scenes it gives a nice 3d effect to it.

Is there a 4k solution software program ?

Its on auto. I have 16gb DDR3.

Advice ?

Should I manually use more threads ??

I have 2600k with 4 cores.

I left it on auto.

The highest I get is 50% about on individual cores. I can run level 5G without issues. I am not sure I'll benefit from additional tinkering around...

Overclocked at 4.5ghz it only uses about 30% CPU. But I dont run my PC that way all the time.

Probably up to a point.

Beyond 4GB usually most applications don't use more ram so it doesn't matter.

on a 64bit application that is ram heavy it matters- but SVP does not appear to be that.

So if you have 8GB like most people you should be fine.



I think memory clock speed might help more than just the amount of ram. I'd bet 8GB at 2133mhz and low CAS would outperform 16GB of Ram with higher CAS latency and only 1600mhz.
Just a guess though. ReneThx probably knows the real answer.

Usually DDR speeds only amount to under 10% difference in real world speeds from my experiences. from 1066mhz to 2000+mhz I think you'd notice a difference, but the difference between 1600mhz and 1866mhz is probably much smaller.
That is my general belief anyways. Not sure I am right but everything I have read and tested suggests such.

What is the memory issue your having ????


I would guess a good set up would be the same as it is for just about anything else. In today's day and age that is 1866mhz or higher. 2 Sticks. Dual Channel. 2x4GB for 8GB total.
Very affordable. Easy to get. I have 1600mhz because my PC is more than a year old and that's what was going on before Z77 and IVY bridge came out. I don't sweat it. Probably not a huge deal.