Wirelogic HDMI cable

Originally Posted by Phil17108 

The arrows may or may not be true with an analog signals but with a digital signal I don't buy it, sounds like Barnum and Bailey stuff to me. There are manufactures that put arrows for directionality on the audio cables and that has to do with picking up hum and it's really a ground that takes the hum back to the source. Acoustic Reacher is one that uses this on there hi end analog audio cables. Take a look at blue jeans cable they have one of the better information sections on cable construction and materials.
I have 22 gage monoprice cable 25 feet long plus the monoprice port savers and wall plates with 3D and no problems.

Originally Posted by alk3997 

As pointed out previously, this is snake oil. I suspect they put that on the cables so that people don't call the 800 number to ask which way the cables go.

Remember it must be listed as a High Speed cable for it to be a high speed cable and it must be certified. Don't know the price but I suspect you can still get a certified High Speed cable for less than this 2 pack if you search the web. The thinnest long-distance high speed cables I've seen are the Redmeres.

The thing to remember for the directional argument for digital cables is that if you are getting no bit errors then improving the cable does what? The 1s can't be any straighter nor the 0s any rounder since you are getting no bit errors. So, that's snake oil. It's a big difference between analog and digital worlds. Of course an HDMI cable has no "sonic performace" - they are bits traveling through the cable and not analog audio.

If you are getting bit errors then you'll see them very obviously on your screen. No doubt when you see one. Then it's time to look at an improved cable.

Originally Posted by aaranddeeman 

I see ya..

This 2 pack costs $29.99 at costco. So not too much on pricey side like monster.
The manufacturer replied saying direction is for best audio and nothing else. It will work even other-wise. They also imply that as long as you do not exceed 8 meter, interconnect is fine etc etc..

Anyways it was blind shot. I first thought they were selling Redmere... But oh well..

Originally Posted by alk3997 

The fallacy of the audio argument is for HDMI the audio bits are in the same stream as the video bits. So, unless the cable were smart enough (which it is not) to discriminate between the audio bits and video bits, both video and audio are treated the same. They are just 1s and 0s (or the electrical representation of 1s and 0s).

However, it doesn't hurt to try since you can return the cable. You'll know if you hit bit errors. However, the price is more than Monoprice would cost.

About the only thing you won't be able to guarantee is whether the cable will handle the maximum bandwidth for HDMI. With 1080p/60 (and lower such as 1080p/24 2D and 3D), you aren't using the full bandwidth of HDMI. Add in Deep Color and you're using some more bandwidth. So as long as you don't care if you can use additional capabilities later, you should be OK just trying the cable with 1080p/60 and Deep Color enabled to see if these cables are good enough.

Originally Posted by aaranddeeman 

I really don't care about the audio and kinda ignore what they are saying. However the manufacturer is very responsive and patient. I am impressed with their response. I will share some excerpts below.

all HDMI cables up through 25ft (7.62m) currently made by WireLogic meet or exceed the 10.2 Gbps maximum current data rate for HDMI. These cables are tested and certified by HDMI Licensing, LLC as High Speed with Ethernet

8 meters is the official limit for High Speed rating. Hence, we would not claim High Speed rating beyond that authorized by HDMI LLC

WireLogic HDMI cables are guaranteed to deliver 100% of the information from the source to the device. We hand test each and every HDMI cable on a Bit Error Rate machine in post-production to assure the same.

Originally Posted by alk3997 

I'll give credit where it is due - the response about the 25 foot cable is a reasonable response. Sounds like a reasonable purchase.

One small nit - the HDMI LLC doesn't actually restrict the length to 25 feet. Physics of high speed signals and the current manufacturing processes restrict the distance to just over 25 feet. It's a nit but if someone came up with a passive cable that passed the eye tests at 30 feet, then that would be the new maximum distance.