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post #1351 of 4324
First HD tv. Loving the blu-ray and 3D movies.
I got the Spears & Munsil calibration disc and since this is my first time to try this, got stumped right out of the gate.
Contrast. The sample pattern looks horrible and I cant find contrast in my setting menu. My interface is only available in Japanese by the way.
Is picture going to be the closest setting? Did I miss something somewhere?
Thanks
Michael
post #1352 of 4324
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Originally Posted by pg_ice View Post

the changes are minimal.
why do you think they differs so much?
any proof on that?
Take any settings from the reviews and measure them on your set and you'll see that they will be off even though on their sets they were perfect.
post #1353 of 4324
Hey all, I had this in my own thread and didn't get any responses. Browsing around I found this thread.

So I'm in the market for a new tv manly for sports and gaming. I've seen really good reviews on the W900A due to picture IQ and has very little input lag since I play online games like call of duty. That tv sounds perfect for my needs except one thing, size. I have a 46 inch Sony Bravia, old KDL-46V4100 from 2009. So I would like to make a bigger jump than from 46 to 55. I wanted a 60 inch but there's no option for that in this class. Then I saw that the 65 inch W850A that is going to be available around October 4th. Looking at the specs do you all think it will be on par with the W900A in IQ and input response time? Also would there be that much difference in viewing sports since the W850A since it only has the motionflow xr 480 compared to the W900A's 960? Thanks
post #1354 of 4324
Can you guys recommend a good router that you are using w/ the W9. Currently Im using an Apple Airport Extreme but i think it doesnt work very well with non Apple products.
I plan to use it with the Xbox One and PS4 as well.
post #1355 of 4324
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Originally Posted by STN57 View Post

Hey all, I had this in my own thread and didn't get any responses. Browsing around I found this thread.

So I'm in the market for a new tv manly for sports and gaming. I've seen really good reviews on the W900A due to picture IQ and has very little input lag since I play online games like call of duty. That tv sounds perfect for my needs except one thing, size. I have a 46 inch Sony Bravia, old KDL-46V4100 from 2009. So I would like to make a bigger jump than from 46 to 55. I wanted a 60 inch but there's no option for that in this class. Then I saw that the 65 inch W850A that is going to be available around October 4th. Looking at the specs do you all think it will be on par with the W900A in IQ and input response time? Also would there be that much difference in viewing sports since the W850A since it only has the motionflow xr 480 compared to the W900A's 960? Thanks

Almost everything about the performance compared to the W900 would be speculation at this point, but people are guessing that the MotionFlow 480 won't be that big of an issue. I believe the only way you arrive at 960 is in Impulse mode, which inserts black frames? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. if that's true, and the 65 850 has almost identical performance as the 55 900, that's a hell of a bargain. If mine wasn't obtained by warranty replacement and I had paid full price for mine, I might be upset!
post #1356 of 4324
Hello There,

I currently have the XBR55HX950 LED Backlit tv,( refurbished ), Which was replaced by Sony ( had KDL55HX750 which had awful ghosting/clouding )


Sony needs to replace the XBR55HX950 as it has small chip on screen.
They are having a hard time finding another XBR55HX950 so they are willing to give me a KDL-55W900A.

My question to you is : Does this TV have issues with the Ghosting/ clouding from the Edge lights like the KDL-55W900A ?

As i said before it looks very noticeable in dark scenes and worse with Bluray ..

If the KDL-55W900A does have this issue i will keep the XBR55HX950 as it does not have the issue

Thanks
post #1357 of 4324
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Originally Posted by pezbear1975 View Post

Hello There,

I currently have the XBR55HX950 LED Backlit tv,( refurbished ), Which was replaced by Sony ( had KDL55HX750 which had awful ghosting/clouding )


Sony needs to replace the XBR55HX950 as it has small chip on screen.
They are having a hard time finding another XBR55HX950 so they are willing to give me a KDL-55W900A.

My question to you is : Does this TV have issues with the Ghosting/ clouding from the Edge lights like the KDL-55W900A ?

As i said before it looks very noticeable in dark scenes and worse with Bluray ..

If the KDL-55W900A does have this issue i will keep the XBR55HX950 as it does not have the issue

Thanks

Like almost any LCD set, it's a crap-shoot. You can get one with zero clouding or one that has clouding-same goes for the HX950, although it's full array local dimming can hide it better.

That said, I think the W900A has less of this than most models. For the first time ever, I got an LCD that exhibits no clouding whatsoever and I haven't seen many owners on here complain about it. Does that guarantee that yours wouldn't have it? No. But your odds are better, IMO.

Still, I'd really weigh my options if I were you. As good as the 900A is (best TV I've ever owned), the PQ will not match the 950. If it were me and I couldn't tolerate the chip on the 950, I'd at least want a bigger size to make up for the loss in PQ. The upcoming 65W850A, perhaps?
post #1358 of 4324
Thanks for your reply,

Bigger size screen is not an option . TV is being replaced via Sony Service centre here in Hawaii, and they will not budge on a larger screen . . Been dealing with this clouding/ghosting issue since April 2013.

I am very happy with the XBR55HX950 ( apart from the chip on bottom left of screen ) Hmmm what to do ? Risk a refurbished KDL-55W900A or keep current TV with a chip.

I really do like the KDL-55W900A though.
post #1359 of 4324
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Originally Posted by pezbear1975 View Post

Thanks for your reply,

Bigger size screen is not an option . TV is being replaced via Sony Service centre here in Hawaii, and they will not budge on a larger screen . . Been dealing with this clouding/ghosting issue since April 2013.

I am very happy with the XBR55HX950 ( apart from the chip on bottom left of screen ) Hmmm what to do ? Risk a refurbished KDL-55W900A or keep current TV with a chip.

I really do like the KDL-55W900A though.

 

FWIW, IMO that XBR55HX950 is a TOWER of achievement.  Truly stunning.

post #1360 of 4324
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. Even though Sony Service Centre is having issues finding a replacement XBR55HX950 for the one i have that has the chips, i'm willing to wait
for it... From what i have read and other responses the KDL-55W900A have been known to emit the white around the edges of the screen. ( not going down that path again )

Cheers !!!
post #1361 of 4324
Quote:
Almost everything about the performance compared to the W900 would be speculation at this point, but people are guessing that the MotionFlow 480 won't be that big of an issue. I believe the only way you arrive at 960 is in Impulse mode, which inserts black frames? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. if that's true, and the 65 850 has almost identical performance as the 55 900, that's a hell of a bargain. If mine wasn't obtained by warranty replacement and I had paid full price for mine, I might be upset!


Thanks for the reply. I was hoping the W850A would be just as good since it was in the same line. The 55 inch is really killing it for me with the W900A. I really wish they would come out with a bigger version of it. Maybe I'll just keep holding out until the price drops some more on sony's 65 inch 4k tv.

Bolded line: The W850A is $700 more than the 2k price tag for the W900A. Should it be that much more for 10 inches?
post #1362 of 4324
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Originally Posted by STN57 View Post

Thanks for the reply. I was hoping the W850A would be just as good since it was in the same line. The 55 inch is really killing it for me with the W900A. I really wish they would come out with a bigger version of it. Maybe I'll just keep holding out until the price drops some more on sony's 65 inch 4k tv.

Bolded line: The W850A is $700 more than the 2k price tag for the W900A. Should it be that much more for 10 inches?

That's probably a normal jump in price for the size difference, but I'm not sure. What I do know is that a couple weeks ago, that difference was only $400! Sony dropped the price on the 900 after announcing the 850.
post #1363 of 4324
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Originally Posted by pg_ice View Post

lol what a ****ing prick
as i said
everyone can miss settings
you need to try them out 100 times.
some settings affect the others so you need to re check everything if you disable one

pg_ice, it is clear that english is not your native language. You come on this forum acting like you know it all, saying your settings are the best. I am not sure if its just a language barrier problem of if you truly believe you have the best settings for everyone. I realize you used calibration tools to get what you feel is a correct calibration, but settings from tv to tv will vary drastically . This is a known fact. Its laughable to me when people post their settings for others to use because chances are its going to look worse than factory settings. My advice would be to leave these forums, and join forums that use your language. Not trying to be rude, but this thread was better when you weren't posting in it.

Just an FYI, turning the backlight settings past 3 makes the image way to bright in my opinion. For daytime use I have it set to 3, and at night I turn it to 2 or 1.
post #1364 of 4324
Is there a way to adjust the picture quality while watching something on the screen or do you have to go to the homepage then settings to adjust it?
post #1365 of 4324
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Originally Posted by Driice View Post

Is there a way to adjust the picture quality while watching something on the screen or do you have to go to the homepage then settings to adjust it?

Hit "Options" and you'll see Picture Settings there.
post #1366 of 4324
Speaking of calibration, have any owners here had their set professionally calibrated?
And how are the results?
post #1367 of 4324
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Originally Posted by dallow View Post

Speaking of calibration, have any owners here had their set professionally calibrated?
And how are the results?


you cant calibrate this tv to reference class even if you are Pro
no CMS(Color Management system) and no 10 point IRE for the grayscale to adjust the gamma curve.
so no 100% flat gamma curve and less correct colorsaturation for some primary colors.
stucked even for a PRO

about the different scenemodes
if you want the biggest gamut with live color you must choose General/Standard scenemode
cinema scene with livecolor at High has only slight bigger gamut than SRGB.

stuff you see with a colormeter wink.gif

you can only hope Sony releases CMS adjustments and 10point IRE in a new firmware.
then its no problem to get a reference class picture.
Edited by pg_ice - 9/16/13 at 8:30pm
post #1368 of 4324
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Originally Posted by pg_ice View Post

you cant calibrate this tv to reference class even if you are Pro
no CMS(Color Management system) and no 10 point IRE for the grayscale to adjust the gamma curve.
so no 100% flat gamma curve and less correct colorsaturation for some primary colors.
stucked even for a PRO

about the different scenemodes
if you want the biggest gamut with live color you must choose General/Standard scenemode
cinema scene with livecolor at High has only slight bigger gamut than SRGB.

stuff you see with a colormeter wink.gif

you can only hope Sony releases CMS adjustments and 10point IRE in a new firmware.
then its no problem to get a reference class picture.
What? LOL

Just because it doesn't have have CMS and 10 point white balance doesn't mean you can't get a reference picture. I have a meter and calibrated my set just fine. Seriously dude just stop spreading false information.
post #1369 of 4324
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Hit "Options" and you'll see Picture Settings there.

I'm watching Netflix right now, and I hit "Options" but nothing pops up?

Edit: Ok, so I guess it doesn't work when you are using Netflix, but it does work when I'm watching YouTube. I haven't tested it with Blu-ray, but I'm sure it should work. Strange it doesn't work for Netflix though.
Edited by Driice - 9/16/13 at 11:34pm
post #1370 of 4324
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Originally Posted by xitman View Post

What? LOL

Just because it doesn't have have CMS and 10 point white balance doesn't mean you can't get a reference picture. I have a meter and calibrated my set just fine. Seriously dude just stop spreading false information.

Just fine and reference are not the same.
Lol!
Post your luminance chart
Then we can see if you are under Delta E 3
post #1371 of 4324
Hello All,

I've had my set for about a week and so far we're very impressed. After running it for a few days, I decided to try some of the recommended picture settings to see if that would improve things any. Generally, none of the settings we tried improved things for our set/room condition, but they did educate me on the capabilities of the set and what each setting does. Having said that, I reset everything back to "General" Scene and "Standard" Picture Mode and only tweaked one setting (Black Corrector). With that, everything looks great except certain reds. Certain reds are looking very bright/neon-ish (possibly over saturated). Can any of you recommend some techniques to try and correct this one issue (e.g. Color, R-Gain, R-Bias, etc...)? I'd love to be able to fix it without hurting the other colors but I recognize there may be trade-offs. Thanks in advance for any tips you can give.
post #1372 of 4324
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Originally Posted by Driice View Post

I'm watching Netflix right now, and I hit "Options" but nothing pops up?

Edit: Ok, so I guess it doesn't work when you are using Netflix, but it does work when I'm watching YouTube. I haven't tested it with Blu-ray, but I'm sure it should work. Strange it doesn't work for Netflix though.

I've read that any Picture setting changes you make under Youtube will also apply to Netflix. Someone who actually uses those might be able to weigh in definitively.
post #1373 of 4324
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

I've read that any Picture setting changes you make under Youtube will also apply to Netflix. Someone who actually uses those might be able to weigh in definitively.

You're correct. When you find an app that does allow you to make picture changes, it will apply those picture settings for the App's you can't access.
post #1374 of 4324
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Originally Posted by Tyjo View Post

You're correct. When you find an app that does allow you to make picture changes, it will apply those picture settings for the App's you can't access.

Ahh ok thanks for the info guys!
post #1375 of 4324
Ive read all of this thread and if im not mistaken I havent read any comments on how the W900a handles ambient light.
Could someone please comment on your experiances with bright sunny rooms? I get a lot of light comming in my livingroom
and I am considering this display.
post #1376 of 4324
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Ive read all of this thread and if im not mistaken I havent read any comments on how the W900a handles ambient light.
Could someone please comment on your experiances with bright sunny rooms? I get a lot of light comming in my livingroom
and I am considering this display.
It does have a glossy screen that reflects light. I had to put up some curtains in my living room for those really sunny days. It's not too bad, but you don't want the TV facing a window or a lamp.
post #1377 of 4324
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Ive read all of this thread and if im not mistaken I havent read any comments on how the W900a handles ambient light.
Could someone please comment on your experiances with bright sunny rooms? I get a lot of light comming in my livingroom
and I am considering this display.

it is a glossy screen, but there should be enough brightness to overcome ambient light. I can't speak definitively on it because I have pretty good light control in my room.
post #1378 of 4324
Thanks guys for the feedback on ambient lite. I have an elite led that does real good on ambient lite even though it does have a glossy screen.
This looks like a nice display but will wait until the 65w850a comes out to compare with the 55w900a. Would prefer the larger screen as long
as their is no picture difference between the 2. I did look at the 55w900a today in personand was impressed.
post #1379 of 4324
As noted above, it has a very glossy screen. Incredible picture if I don't say so. But facing a window like mine does, it reflects any light from that window or any reflections in the room. I solved the problem by installing LED lights on the back of the set and then turning off all lights. Makes it even more fun to watch TV/DVD now. Anyway, in the day time its not very good in my room because I can't control the light very well. But I never watch TV in the day so it is not a problem. Though I do wish I had the option if I needed to watch in the day. Hope this all helps. And BTW, this TV is better than the Vidikron monitor it replaced. I really like it a lot.
post #1380 of 4324
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Originally Posted by Pokey77 View Post

As noted above, it has a very glossy screen. Incredible picture if I don't say so. But facing a window like mine does, it reflects any light from that window or any reflections in the room. I solved the problem by installing LED lights on the back of the set and then turning off all lights. Makes it even more fun to watch TV/DVD now. Anyway, in the day time its not very good in my room because I can't control the light very well. But I never watch TV in the day so it is not a problem. Though I do wish I had the option if I needed to watch in the day. Hope this all helps. And BTW, this TV is better than the Vidikron monitor it replaced. I really like it a lot.

Thanks for the input. Sounds like it washes out in daylight.
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