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post #151 of 4301
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Full-array offers deeper blacks, thus improving contrast.

The 4K Triluminous offered a legit improvement in color reproduction by using actual physics than any other gimmicks. (hardware base rather than software)
The quantum dot display allows the perfect light wavelengths that otherwise isn't available on the HX950.
Also it is literally 4x in resolution.

Now hopefully we see a continuation of the HX-9xx series and have BOTH the perks of full-array AND quantum dot technology.

Was really hoping I could snatch up a 950 before it was too late but it seems it is. Out of Stock on Sony's Site (55"). When did the w900a come out? I just saw it on a local retailer's site listed for $2,799 but arrival date is May 6th.

http://www.nfm.com/DetailsPage.aspx?productid=37774486

If screen uniformity holds up for an edge-lit set this might just be my next TV.
post #152 of 4301
I wish the W900 came in a 46'' size in the US.
post #153 of 4301
The Sony store in Manhattan is supposed to get a display model of the W900a on Wednesday. I'll walk over on my lunch break to see if its true. Now here's the kicker-the sales man said they are getting a 47 and 55 inch.
He might be full of it but I'll check it out. He might be confusing it with the w800.
Really looking forward to seeing it.
post #154 of 4301
I chatted with a Sony Style person today. I asked when is the W900A coming out. The response was there is no date set. The person could not tell me when. Speculation on my part: Sony is pushing Ultra HD big time.
post #155 of 4301
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I chatted with a Sony Style person today. I asked when is the W900A coming out. The response was there is no date set. The person could not tell me when. Speculation on my part: Sony is pushing Ultra HD big time.

I just picked up a new Center Channel today from a local retailer in KC and saw the new 4K Sony's up on display. They look very nice but those side speakers look goofy not to mention the $5K price tag on the 55".
post #156 of 4301
To reiterate earlier posts i just don't like the new design. The illuminated sony insignia which seems out of proportions at the bottom of the set, is reminiscent of the Samsung sets. The absence of the gorilla glass and the monolithic design only makes the still gigantic frame show more. For the reasons mentioned above I have chosen to go for a second 55"HX850. As for 4K well at the moment it seems as fad like 3D until we see content i have no interest in spending 10k and still watch 1080p movies with a bit more vivid colour, also there seems to be a problem with viewing 4k at a certain distance.
Edited by mr.marts - 4/25/13 at 10:18pm
post #157 of 4301
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I chatted with a Sony Style person today. I asked when is the W900A coming out. The response was there is no date set. The person could not tell me when. Speculation on my part: Sony is pushing Ultra HD big time.

I just picked up a new Center Channel today from a local retailer in KC and saw the new 4K Sony's up on display. They look very nice but those side speakers look goofy not to mention the $5K price tag on the 55".

Those speakers would be the design F-up of the century, but Samsung's two hideous stands seem to take that particular award this year.
post #158 of 4301
I don't understand why there is no release date at all.
post #159 of 4301
@LookN2Find - Because Sony is in trouble and they don't know when the TVs can ship. ATM they are selling no mid to high end TVs. That can't be good for business.

They price fix at an over inflated price, have production issues that cause a fairly high return rate, and companies like Vizio are coming close to their picture quality at half the price (not that the average TV buyer can tell the difference).

I'm seriously afraid to buy Sony because I don't know that they'll survive (the PS4 already has bad buzz) and the W900A uses first generation tech.

Panasonic's plasmas are looking attractive this year... and I hate plasma.

Sorry, for that, I really do love Sony and hope they get their act together.
post #160 of 4301
Any one considering the Panasonic WT60 with local dimming? The main distinction of the panny wt series from what I have read is the wide viewing angle - something the high end Sony's don't have.
post #161 of 4301
I haven't seen a WT60 review. If you've got a link, please share.
Last year's WT's weren't well reviewed.
post #162 of 4301
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@LookN2Find - Because Sony is in trouble and they don't know when the TVs can ship.


Nah. Companies have listed "TBD" on their product sheets for as long as I can remember.
post #163 of 4301
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@LookN2Find - Because Sony is in trouble and they don't know when the TVs can ship. ATM they are selling no mid to high end TVs. That can't be good for business.

They price fix at an over inflated price, have production issues that cause a fairly high return rate, and companies like Vizio are coming close to their picture quality at half the price (not that the average TV buyer can tell the difference).

I'm seriously afraid to buy Sony because I don't know that they'll survive (the PS4 already has bad buzz) and the W900A uses first generation tech.

Panasonic's plasmas are looking attractive this year... and I hate plasma.

Sorry, for that, I really do love Sony and hope they get their act together.

Actually I think just the opposite. While Sony has slipped, I think
they are on track with the PS4. Its getting nothing but great press from the media and developers.
Sony really listened to developers and based the PS4 on PC tech.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-spec-analysis-playstation-4

That's why I have faith that the W900 will deliver...
post #164 of 4301
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As for Passive 3D? I dont like it for various reasons and I will stick with Active 3D. But thats just me.


What are the various reasons? You might condemn the vertical resolution halving, but what else?


I'd still like to know what your "various reasons" were. smile.gif
post #165 of 4301
Was this cleared up yet? I find it {amu,confu}sing.

In the Sony W900A page it lists it as Active3D. Sure---makes sense. LG doesn't make "triluminous" displays anyway. But they they claim to offer "SimulView" with glasses that don't require batteries.

Huh? How can you do Active-3D simulview with glasses that aren't shuttering? LOL!

Pretty funny cut-N-paste mistake from their passive lineup.
post #166 of 4301
It appears that Sony is afraid that people will not notice much different in the 55W900a and the overpriced 4K TVs which will impact sale of the 4k sets. Hence the delay in the 55W900a release.
post #167 of 4301
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It appears that Sony is afraid that people will not notice much different in the 55W900a and the overpriced 4K TVs which will impact sale of the 4k sets. Hence the delay in the 55W900a release.

Are you guessing, or did you read this somewhere?
post #168 of 4301
The Sony salesman told me it was "slightly delayed". He said mid May to early June.
I talked to a guy at PC Richards and he said Mid May. Also they had it as a special order and
quoted me a price of $2800.

It makes sense they delayed it, basically it's the same TV as X900 just no 4K or those crazy speakers.
post #169 of 4301
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The Sony salesman told me it was "slightly delayed". He said mid May to early June.
I talked to a guy at PC Richards and he said Mid May. Also they had it as a special order and
quoted me a price of $2800.

It makes sense they delayed it, basically it's the same TV as X900 just no 4K or those crazy speakers.

No, not that it's delayed---if true that would be easily verifiable based any early date they may have given.

I wanted to know where you got the sense that it was because Sony was "afraid that people will not notice much different in the 55W900a and the overpriced 4K TVs which will impact sale of the 4k sets". To me that part doesn't follow and I was wondering if it was speculation on your part or if this was industry news or similar. That's all.

EDIT: helvetica bold corrected me on this in a later post. It was not he who said this, it was malcolmp6. Sorry helvetica bold!
Edited by tgm1024 - 5/1/13 at 6:49am
post #170 of 4301
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No, not that it's delayed---if true that would be easily verifiable based any early date they may have given.

I wanted to know where you got the sense that it was because Sony was "afraid that people will not notice much different in the 55W900a and the overpriced 4K TVs which will impact sale of the 4k sets". To me that part doesn't follow and I was wondering if it was speculation on your part or if this was industry news or similar. That's all.

Youre quoting malcolmp6 so I can't speak for him but my gut says that's possible. The 4K is over 2 grand more
with very little to show off at the moment. I have a feeling the w900 will look amazing so why pay that much more.
Hell, i was impressed with the W800 PQ. The Sony store in NY has several 4K units on display in the windows and wall.
post #171 of 4301
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No, not that it's delayed---if true that would be easily verifiable based any early date they may have given.

I wanted to know where you got the sense that it was because Sony was "afraid that people will not notice much different in the 55W900a and the overpriced 4K TVs which will impact sale of the 4k sets". To me that part doesn't follow and I was wondering if it was speculation on your part or if this was industry news or similar. That's all.

Youre quoting malcolmp6 so I can't speak for him but my gut says that's possible.

Sorry about the misquote. I fixed it up there ↑ aways. smile.gif
post #172 of 4301
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Are you guessing, or did you read this somewhere?
Pure speculation on my part.
post #173 of 4301
I believe SONY would delay it in fear of the 4K looking near the W900 as well. Reason being is the 55" model. Does anyone know what size you have to move up to in order to really notice a higher resolution than 1080P?

For the love of all hat is good in the world...does Anyone think Sony might possibly release a 65" W900. Ive been asking everywhere and everyone just passes my post. Sony is known to release a late model. I believe it was November of lasr year when the 65HX950 was released, and them babies are Gone. Is there any hope for me getting a high end sony above 55"? I guess another question is if I buy the 55", by your experience what will my viewing quality be like at 14 feet away? I cant see text well on my 46" when using it as my PC monitor at that distance without enlarging certain web pages, and I dont know if 55 is enough or if I need a larger size. http://www.comparetvsizes.com/

Please help. Im so confused on what my viewing quality will be like for how far away I sit. Thank You! smile.gif
post #174 of 4301
I too am interested in the 55W900. I bought one of the last 65HX950's from BB and it's to be delivered tomorrow - had been holding out for a price drop and got lucky.

Was hoping to get a 55HX950 for a different room, but those haven't dropped in price and given the prices listed so far for the 55W900, the W900 might be a better TV for a few hundred less.
post #175 of 4301
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I believe SONY would delay it in fear of the 4K looking near the W900 as well. Reason being is the 55" model. Does anyone know what size you have to move up to in order to really notice a higher resolution than 1080P?

For the love of all hat is good in the world...does Anyone think Sony might possibly release a 65" W900. Ive been asking everywhere and everyone just passes my post. Sony is known to release a late model. I believe it was November of lasr year when the 65HX950 was released, and them babies are Gone. Is there any hope for me getting a high end sony above 55"? I guess another question is if I buy the 55", by your experience what will my viewing quality be like at 14 feet away? I cant see text well on my 46" when using it as my PC monitor at that distance without enlarging certain web pages, and I dont know if 55 is enough or if I need a larger size. http://www.comparetvsizes.com/

Please help. Im so confused on what my viewing quality will be like for how far away I sit. Thank You! smile.gif

Well my Mom bought a 60inch Samsung ES7100 and she sits about 12 feet away and it's the perfect size.
it doesn't look too large-hell she could have gone larger. if you go to THX website they recommend bigger is better,
With 14 feet of space you could easily go 65 inches.

With all my research and asking around (a lot) I haven't heard anything about a 65 inch W900a. I have heard of smaller versions tho-47 inch but not sure if its destined for the US. That's not to say they won't release a 65.
There is a 65 4K Ultra HD.
post #176 of 4301
Here's another odd observation I had recently.

When I was looking into the LG 55LM7600 / 55LM8600, I noticed how small the thing looked on the BB wall. It just did not look like a 55". The 55" Pannasonic ET5 looked like a moose compared to it!

It was the very small border/bezel around the picture. Totally deceiving. A salesman chimed in one of the LG forums saying that he carries a tape measure with him to prove to customers that they truly are 55"ers.

PURELY psycho-optical, and unexpectedly weird.

So these days I think the larger TVs might visually dwarf the rooms less than you'd otherwise expect.
post #177 of 4301
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I believe SONY would delay it in fear of the 4K looking near the W900 as well.

The reason I doubt it is because I believe if that were true, they'd only be setting themselves up for a bigger comparison problem later. Just my gut reaction there.

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Reason being is the 55" model. Does anyone know what size you have to move up to in order to really notice a higher resolution than 1080P?

HUGE arguments around that. Please visit the 4K threads in the Flat Panel General and New FP Tech forum.

My personal caveat is coming from my experience as a software engineer with a longggggg graphics / imaging background. You don't need to see something to see something. As whackjob a quote as that seems, it's true---the eye is *not* a static CCD array.
post #178 of 4301
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Well my Mom bought a 60inch Samsung ES7100 and she sits about 12 feet away and it's the perfect size.
it doesn't look too large-hell she could have gone larger. if you go to THX website they recommend bigger is better,
With 14 feet of space you could easily go 65 inches.

With all my research and asking around (a lot) I haven't heard anything about a 65 inch W900a. I have heard of smaller versions tho-47 inch but not sure if its destined for the US. That's not to say they won't release a 65.
There is a 65 4K Ultra HD.

Do you think 4K Native TVs are going to make 1080 signals look bad? That is of course what I want the best of, but am afraid of it being able to reveal 4X the artifacts or noise from 1080 signals, and revealing all imperfections and short cuts in game graphics. I'm sure one could make the settings of the image soft to look like a 1080 TV, but then there is the wonder in its current value with no 4K content.
post #179 of 4301
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Do you think 4K Native TVs are going to make 1080 signals look bad? That is of course what I want the best of, but am afraid of it being able to reveal 4X the artifacts or noise from 1080 signals, and revealing all imperfections and short cuts in game graphics. I'm sure one could make the settings of the image soft to look like a 1080 TV, but then there is the wonder in its current value with no 4K content.

Funny you ask, I had the day off from work (birthday) and I walked to PC Richards. The 65 Ultra HD was on display playing one of the Resident Evil movies in 1080p. It looked beautiful upscaled to 4K. The triluminos display gives it a PC monitor like clarity. I figure if you spend $5000+ Sony had better put in some amazing video processing! smile.gif

The salesman gave me a street date of May 28th for the 55 W900a.
Anyway I would wait a bit and see if there is a 65 inch W900 unless you have tons of cash. smile.gif
Im a design director for a TV nework and personally I think it's too soon for 4K but from
what ive seen it does look beautiful.
post #180 of 4301
Supposedly only 7 ms of input lag. Even with that number probably being inaccurate, this should be a good pick for gaming.

Review: http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-bravia-kdl-55w905_TV_review
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