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post #2041 of 4300
@drewconner

Read your post above and decided to test my Logitech Ultimate IR blaster with a 3.5 stereo extension cable using 3.5 mm / 2.5 mm stereo adapters on each end. Initially the signaling did not work when I positioned the IR blaster several feet away, however, after placing it closer to the W900a (right under the IR receiver and a few feet away as well), the TV started to receive the signals no problem. Maybe using an extension cord attenuates the signal? I have no idea but needless to say I was a little worried seeing your post and how I wanted to wall mount this set having one of the Harmony's IR blasters wired out to it as well.

And FWIW, I tested this set against a Samsung F8500 plasma as well. F8500 has superior blacks but a tight vertical viewing angle for those mounting the TV in an elevated position. F8500 is pretty bright but doesn't get quite the bright white output of the Sony.
post #2042 of 4300

Is there a way to have this TV to turn on when I turn on my Yamaha receiver ? I searched, but haven't found anything yet.

 

Thanks

 

Fred


Edited by dardano - 11/26/13 at 9:39am
post #2043 of 4300
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Originally Posted by dardano View Post

Is there a way to have this TV to turn on when I turn on my Yamaha receiver ? I searched, but haven't found anything yet.

Thanks

Fred

Fred do you have the Yamaha plugged into HDMI1? That has the audio return channel and should sync with the TV. I have a Sony receiver and it uses Bravia Sync but I think your AVR should at least turn off w/ the TV.
post #2044 of 4300
Yes my yamaha is in HDMI1
Rxv 765

I'm new to Sony's TV. Will have a look at Bravia Sync tonight.

Both are HDMI-CEC compatible
Edited by dardano - 11/26/13 at 12:35pm
post #2045 of 4300
any one have any calibrated setting for this set. i have a playstation 4 and oppo 103 as my sources and watch mostly Japanese anime.Thanks in advance
post #2046 of 4300
I purchased a 47W802A yesterday and have the opportunity to trade it plus $600 for a 55W900A. The 900 was supposedly used for a few hours and its owner found it to be too large.

My 802 has no imperfections, I lucked out in that department. I purchased it for $700, so the total price for the 900 would be $1,300. Is it worth almost double the price of the 802? If I go for it, are there any specific issues I should look for when picking it up? Thanks!
post #2047 of 4300
Is this bat of light normal on the w900a?
post #2048 of 4300
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Originally Posted by dardano View Post
 

 

I check on http://meilleursprix.ca/show-product.asp?id_product=870799 where the Quebec based company Bedirect.ca have it at 2062$

 

I checked everywhere in Quebec city to match this price. I finally found a good seller at FutureShop (Place Laurier) who offered me 2075$ so I took it. When I went to the store, he wanted me to take the 4yr extended warranty at 429$. I said no. then he said "if I down the price at 1999.99 and take the 4yr warranty at 329$ it that ok?",....

 

I said "Ok, but you put it on 24months without interests".

 

He said ok and it was a done deal.

 

Fred

 

 

Wow, I think you got a heck of a deal. I'd be happy with that. Now, just gotta find a good sales guy.

 

Btw, on a side note, at the T.V. section at Future Shop they had the lights dimmed and on either side of the W900 they had a W802 and a Panasonic plasma VT60 which at one point was playing Katy Perrys music video Wide Awake which looked just stunning, possibly better than the W900. I was surprised the W802 seemed to have more detail than the W900 (both Sonys were playing same Sony hard drive content I believe) but the W900 was more brighter.

 

At a Best Buy I went to later, the W900 clearly had the better picture quality of the three.

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Originally Posted by twotonedkiller View Post

Is this bat of light normal on the w900a?

Do you see it while watching normal program material? And while watching Blu ray movies? I ask this because at times you see this because of the source material. I would keep an eye on it.
post #2050 of 4300
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Wow, I think you got a heck of a deal. I'd be happy with that. Now, just gotta find a good sales guy.

 

Btw, on a side note, at the T.V. section at Future Shop they had the lights dimmed and on either side of the W900 they had a W802 and a Panasonic plasma VT60 which at one point was playing Katy Perrys music video Wide Awake which looked just stunning, possibly better than the W900. I was surprised the W802 seemed to have more detail than the W900 (both Sonys were playing same Sony hard drive content I believe) but the W900 was more brighter.

 

At a Best Buy I went to later, the W900 clearly had the better picture quality of the three.

 

Yes the Pana VT60 and Sony W900 were close rivals. I also think the W900 have a better PQ. Also, as I'm not a fan of plasma TV I went to LED LCD. My TV is in the living room and I have a lot of windows (and curtains of course), so a plasma TV wasn't the best choice for me.

post #2051 of 4300

Anyone playing AC4 on the ps4 with this set? I have a few questions for you

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I picked one of these up at Fry's last Saturday for 1799.00.  They had it listed at 1999.00, but with negotiation I was able to get them to 1799.00.  Go FRY's!

 

I had previously bought the UN60F7100, but it was plagued by poor picture quality and bad BAD flashlighting.  I had to pay a re-stocking fee to get rid of it, but it was well worth it.  This w900a has an amazing picture and no flashlighting, I am very happy with it.

post #2053 of 4300

 I have been playing AC4 on my ps4 and it does looks amazing... At first I used game mode and let me tell you the picture in game mode is beautiful... I had my detail/edge settings on high and the foliage/detail had  bad alising(details shimmering/stuttering) issues... so I lowered the detail level to low and the it removed it quite a bit...  In cinema mode it is completely gone even with edge/detail on high the picture looks great but there is a slight lag compared to game mode... the lag is still better than 90% of other led/lcd tv's.... is the reason for this shimmering/stuttering the game the ps4 or the tv? not  noticeable in call of duty really, or in resogun.....

post #2054 of 4300

Hey Vermeer. I have a PS4 and am moving so I am going to be getting a new TV.  I was trying to decide between this TV and  the Samsung un65f7100.  Is this TV worth the 10 inch drop?  One of the reasons I am considering this TV is because of your post saying that games look fantastic on this set and there have been a lot of good reviews.  The only thing is I have not been too impressed with this set at the store.  I saw it at Best Buy and at another local store and I am thinking it could be on bad settings at the stores.  If somebody has experience with both of these sets, any response would be appreciated and Vermeer I plan to get AC4 someday!

post #2055 of 4300
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

Do you see it while watching normal program material? And while watching Blu ray movies? I ask this because at times you see this because of the source material. I would keep an eye on it.

I see it on all source material. Even in the one I got replaced. Just here its more pronounced. Even at widescreen scenes, the little bar of light is there. Could it be my settings or is this natural for this tv?. Here is a closer look

post #2056 of 4300
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Originally Posted by tabster View Post
 

Hey Vermeer. I have a PS4 and am moving so I am going to be getting a new TV.  I was trying to decide between this TV and  the Samsung un65f7100.  Is this TV worth the 10 inch drop?  One of the reasons I am considering this TV is because of your post saying that games look fantastic on this set and there have been a lot of good reviews.  The only thing is I have not been too impressed with this set at the store.  I saw it at Best Buy and at another local store and I am thinking it could be on bad settings at the stores.  If somebody has experience with both of these sets, any response would be appreciated and Vermeer I plan to get AC4 someday!

Hey the set looks really awesome with games ac4 looks incredible and the game is fun too...I had the samsung 8000 (2012)series the picture was equal to the 900a but I had banding and clouding returned 4 sets in totally.. I can't tell you if your set will be band free because all sets can have banding to some degree, I lucked out with my 900a.. 

 

I am happy with the set and how the ps4 looks on it... next tv will be 4k in 2 years when prices come down on them..

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I see it on all source material. Even in the one I got replaced. Just here its more pronounced. Even at widescreen scenes, the little bar of light is there. Could it be my settings or is this natural for this tv?. Here is a closer look

try to put your gamma to -2 and your led dynamic control to standard... also lower your backlight a little see if that helps

post #2058 of 4300
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Originally Posted by vermeer View Post

try to put your gamma to -2 and your led dynamic control to standard... also lower your backlight a little see if that helps

It helped a little but I still see it. Is that bar of light normal or not?
post #2059 of 4300
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Originally Posted by Justifire View Post
 

@ Vermeer

 

I got an auto-update.

But you can search for updates under [HOME] -> productsupport -> software update.

You can show your current  version under [HOME] -> productsupport -> systeminformation

Version i received PKG4.00EUA


 I got an update too, but my version is PKG4.000AAA?

post #2060 of 4300
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It helped a little but I still see it. Is that bar of light normal or not?

I think it's normal for all edge lit LED HDTV. But I not 100% sure
post #2061 of 4300
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Originally Posted by vermeer View Post

try to put your gamma to -2 and your led dynamic control to standard... also lower your backlight a little see if that helps

It helped a little but I still see it. Is that bar of light normal or not?


No that's not normal twotone. All I can suggest is give Sony a call and have them send someone out to look at it.
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It helped a little but I still see it. Is that bar of light normal or not?

I think it's normal for all edge lit LED HDTV. But I not 100% sure


dardano that's not normal for edge lit LED TV's. Mine don't have that problem at all.
post #2062 of 4300
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

No that's not normal twotone. All I can suggest is give Sony a call and have them send someone out to look at it.
dardano that's not normal for edge lit LED TV's. Mine don't have that problem at all.

I looked at mine tonight and I don't see the light.
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Originally Posted by twotonedkiller View Post

I see it on all source material. Even in the one I got replaced. Just here its more pronounced. Even at widescreen scenes, the little bar of light is there. Could it be my settings or is this natural for this tv?. Here is a closer look


Yes, this is normal for a few reasons:

- this is an edge lit tv. Light are coming from the bottom and top of the set. These portion of the tv tend to be a bit more bright than the rest of the screen. This is less noticeable if your backlit is set to a lower degree
- from the picture, you are getting this on your xbox. Are you in game scene? This will be more noticeable in game scene since it deactivates a bunch of feature to decrease input lag.
- what is your backlit setting it? Again, this is more noticeable if you have your backlit set high.

If you watch a movie with a lower backlit, in standard or cinema scene, with led dynamic control set to standard, this should almost not be visible, if not completely gone. I tend to notice this a little on my hx850 but again only in game scene (graphic scene would likely do the same).

I'd be curious to nw to what setting you have your backlit at and if you have led dynamic control set to standard or not.
post #2064 of 4300
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Originally Posted by Guibs View Post

Yes, this is normal for a few reasons:

- this is an edge lit tv. Light are coming from the bottom and top of the set. These portion of the tv tend to be a bit more bright than the rest of the screen. This is less noticeable if your backlit is set to a lower degree
- from the picture, you are getting this on your xbox. Are you in game scene? This will be more noticeable in game scene since it deactivates a bunch of feature to decrease input lag.
- what is your backlit setting it? Again, this is more noticeable if you have your backlit set high.

If you watch a movie with a lower backlit, in standard or cinema scene, with led dynamic control set to standard, this should almost not be visible, if not completely gone. I tend to notice this a little on my hx850 but again only in game scene (graphic scene would likely do the same).

I'd be curious to nw to what setting you have your backlit at and if you have led dynamic control set to standard or not.

These are my settings:
Backlight 7
Picture 98
Brightness 65
Color 73
Hue 0
Color temp neutral
Sharpness 63
Noise off
Mpeg off
Dot noise off
Reality creation manual
Vid area auto
Resolution 63
Smooth high
Motionflow off
Cine off
Black corrector med
Advance contrast med
Gamma 0
Led dynamic standard
Auto light med
Clear white off
Live color med
Detail med
Edge med

I have notice this to all my replaced w900a just more on this one. I thinking of either keeping or replacing
post #2065 of 4300
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Originally Posted by twotonedkiller View Post

These are my settings:
Backlight 7
Picture 98
Brightness 65
Color 73
Hue 0
Color temp neutral
Sharpness 63
Noise off
Mpeg off
Dot noise off
Reality creation manual
Vid area auto
Resolution 63
Smooth high
Motionflow off
Cine off
Black corrector med
Advance contrast med
Gamma 0
Led dynamic standard
Auto light med
Clear white off
Live color med
Detail med
Edge med

I have notice this to all my replaced w900a just more on this one. I thinking of either keeping or replacing

Turn off Advanced Contrast and Auto Light.

And knock down brightness to around 50 its way to high - thats your main problem.
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Originally Posted by Guibs View Post

- this is an edge lit tv. Light are coming from the bottom and top of the set. These portion of the tv tend to be a bit more bright than the rest of the screen.
You are spreading misinformation. The W9 has its LEDs in the left+right edges, not top+bottom. If there are light bands at the top/bottom, then it's probably a "mechanical" imprecision of either the reflector layer or the diffusor layer behind the LCD matrix.
post #2067 of 4300
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Originally Posted by Didee View Post

You are spreading misinformation. The W9 has its LEDs in the left+right edges, not top+bottom. If there are light bands at the top/bottom, then it's probably a "mechanical" imprecision of either the reflector layer or the diffusor layer behind the LCD matrix.

Hmm, I swear I read an article about the W900a that said the light was coming from the top and bottom section of the screen exactly like my hx850. I'll need to research it back to make sure I have not miss read it.

still, the recommandation I made to lower the effect still stands.
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Originally Posted by twotonedkiller View Post

These are my settings:
Backlight 7
Picture 98
Brightness 65
Color 73
Hue 0
Color temp neutral
Sharpness 63
Noise off
Mpeg off
Dot noise off
Reality creation manual
Vid area auto
Resolution 63
Smooth high
Motionflow off
Cine off
Black corrector med
Advance contrast med
Gamma 0
Led dynamic standard
Auto light med
Clear white off
Live color med
Detail med
Edge med

I have notice this to all my replaced w900a just more on this one. I thinking of either keeping or replacing

I have a hx850 so my model is a bit different but I find your backlit setting pretty high. Are these settings for daytime, full sunlight viewing? If this is mostly from night time/basement, I would recommand lowering your backlit to 3-4 to see if you have ab improvement.

In your settings, you are not mentionning the scene you are currently using. Are you switching scene depending on content or input? Most people will go to the game scene when playing games to lower input lag. Most will switch to Cinema scene to Watch movies like blurays. Some will go to General or keep cinema scene for regular tv depending on préferences.

I would be curious if you notice this with a backlit of 3/4 in Cinema scene. It could just be a bad batch of sets. You said you tried multiple set, were they all coming from the same store? Most store will get units often manufactured togheter in a batch. So if there was an issue on assembling the units that day, most units on that batch may be affected. I went through 4 HX850 myself because of really bad flashlighting in the lower bottom corners. I ended up keeping the "less bad" one because the TV was still amazing. Good for me with time, the flashlighting diminish to the point that even on credits or when there are black bars in movies, I don't even see it anymore.
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Originally Posted by Guibs View Post

Hmm, I swear I read an article about the W900a that said the light was coming from the top and bottom section of the screen exactly like my hx850. I'll need to research it back to make sure I have not miss read it.
Other people spread misinformation as well. Even some so-called "review sites" ...
Sure as anything the W9 has the LEDs left+right. For the HX850 I'm not fully sure ATM, but I would bet it was also lit left+right. Especially if a set features "local" dimming (as far as "edge" can be "local"), the problem with top+bottom lighting is that you can not-at-all dim the black bars of widescreen movies. That's only possible with left+right lighting.
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still, the recommandation I made to lower the effect still stands.
Of course.
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I've been looking at buying this TV, but one thing that is very important to me, is being able to control it from a computer. I see it does have a serial port, but I can't find a published protocol anywhere, nor can I find a published IP control protocol either. Before I give up, and move to a different TV, I thought I'd check and see if any of you guys know something! Thanks.
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